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Posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:25:03 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:00:23 2014. No, I have a case. Your ancestors rounded up their own neighbors and sold them off to Europeans by the boat load. So if anything it was their own greed.Mine did nothing. As I pointed out, I'm Irish. More specifically, I'm Irish nobility. We even had a fracking castle.  But my family had all our property taken by the English under Oliver Cromwell. We had to live in squalor on land where we were once KINGS! So I have no sympathy for your problems or the Native Americans if no one has any sympathy for my problems. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:26:30 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:15:25 2014. Written by people who actually care what happened in our past as a species, and don't want to blame all the problems on one group. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:28:15 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:25:03 2014. uh huh ! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 24 19:29:15 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:26:30 2014. The funny thing about that is how whichever group is powerful in any given society decides that they are clearly the most objective people to write about how they became powerful. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 24 19:30:21 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:25:03 2014. Losing hereditary privilege isn't actually a problem. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 24 19:32:35 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:28:15 2014. You know, it's funny that when you talk about how you're oppressed by other people's unearned privilege, his immediate reaction is: "Well what about MY problems? MY family lost our unearned privilege!"It's only one step removed from the dipshits who announce that white people are the real victims of racism because they're no longer considered superior to black people. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:33:27 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing Black People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 24 19:32:35 2014. true |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sun Aug 24 19:33:48 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:02:15 2014. +∞ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:34:46 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Sun Aug 24 19:26:30 2014. History should be recorded by those who are completely disinterested in the details. Only then can analysis be objective. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 00:02:04 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing Black People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 24 19:30:21 2014. you're defending that racist pig and his outdate and disproven BS stories? 400 years of labor, he bitches? African slavery only existed on in the land we now call the United States for about 258 years.If anyone should learn anything it's you and him. "white People" are no longer the problem. It's black people who are the problem, because they refuses to accept their place in society... AS EQUAL MEMBERS OF SOCIETY! They don't want to be equal to the rest of humanity, they want to be special! They don't want to live with the requirements true equality brings with them. They can have everything people like Dr. King wanted. But that have to take the responsibilities, which they don't want. And it's not just about what "I" lost. It's what Ireland and the Irish people lost. It's a lot easier to have you culture squashed when you can easily mix in with your oppressors. Irish Potato famine? Potato crop was fine, problem was the English were taking more than they need and didn't leave the Irish any to eat. You think Salaam's got problems? His family was at least taken somewhere else to be oppressed, My family? We spent centuries living under someone else's thumb on land that was once ours. They acted like they were better than us. They acted like they were doing us a favor. I've got problems left and right, through a great grandmother on Mom's Dad's side I have roots in an area that was a tug of war zone between France and Germany. One invaded, and then the other fought back, back and forth. It's called Alsace, today part of France. And it's residents are a minority language group. On my mom's mother side' I'm Slovenian. Again, minority group oppressed by a larger group, in this case, the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Do I need to remind you how well the Slavic took that? Just ask Franz Ferdinand. Heck, Slavic is the very root word of SLAVE itself. So don't tell me I don't have problems. I just pointed to three sections of my personal background where I'm descended from oppressed minority groups. Ones who nobody seems to care about. You don't have to be a different skin color or religion to have someone stomping on your rights. But that's all anyone sees. Did 6 million Jews die at the hands of the Nazis? Yes. Is it one the most terrible atrocities ever committed by man? Most definitely. except the Holocaust took 12 million lives. What about the other 6 million people who died in the concentration camps? Why doesn't anyone ever talk about them? Gays, the phsycicsly and mentally handicapped, Gypsies, political dissidents and a basically anyone they didn't like, were killed right along with the Jewish peoples. Is anyone going to feel sorry for them two? My point is if were are to help one group of oppressed people. Should we not help them all? Or are some of them not oppressed enough for you? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 26 20:07:49 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 00:02:04 2014. My point is if were are to help one group of oppressed people. Should we not help them all? Or are some of them not oppressed enough for you?I would explain that white people are not oppressed right now regardless of their ancestry, while black people currently are, and that historical atrocities, as bad as they may be, are a lot harder to address than current injustice. However, considering the racist rant at the start of your post, I doubt it would do any good. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 26 20:26:47 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by Nilet on Tue Aug 26 20:07:49 2014. IAWTPtitle corrected |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 26 20:36:16 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by The Silence on Tue Aug 26 00:02:04 2014. I admire the "prison of nations." I believe that the area where my ancestors are from had its golden age in the Belle Époque under Austrian domination. Much better than the subsequent Second Polish Republic, the USSR and modern Ukraine. Nationalism is naught more than a source of strife. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:48:00 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing Black People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Aug 26 20:26:47 2014. Thank you. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Aug 27 19:48:34 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing Black People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:48:00 2014. you are welcomeIAWTP |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Aug 27 19:50:23 2014, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing Black People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Aug 27 19:48:34 2014. I usually fix thread titles when I post, but occasionally I miss one. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Aug 28 14:20:06 2014, in response to Want Peace? Killing Black People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, posted by Nilet on Thu Aug 21 19:27:58 2014. loland prisons are filled only with the occasional pot smoker and no murderers. The internets is awsome. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 17 23:38:17 2025, in response to Re: Want Peace? Killing People Needs To Be Treated as a Crime, Even If They're Black, posted by Nilet on Sun Aug 24 11:21:36 2014. Were you looking in the mirror when you said that? |
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