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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 17:08:19 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 13 16:57:35 2025.

Gilmore chose for it to be a firing squad. They no longer have that choice for those convicted after 2004.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 17:11:43 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 16:47:02 2025.

Comment in poor taste for sure but its odd that the same media covering the remark (as well as the OP here) had nothing the say when a mentally ill lunatic stabbed a young woman to death just days earlier.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 13 17:14:24 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 17:04:13 2025.

Didnt he confess thinking that might save his ass from the Squad? What would be the basis for an appeal? If that was the case & the judge went along with it, he goes away for life to die in prison and thats the end of it.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 17:14:24 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 17:08:19 2025.

Gilmore also proved the point that i was making. He demanded thatbthe sentence be carried out without decades of incarceration during appeals.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 17:16:29 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 13 17:14:24 2025.

Appeals are not common after confessions but they do happen duebto 3rd party interests like anti-death penalty advocates.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 17:34:34 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 17:05:37 2025.

I don't think he got very specific.

I doubt if he's actually proposing legislation.

My only point is that some commentators get away with saying things that are unhelpful and in extremely poor taste and others don't.



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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Sep 13 18:12:33 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 17:08:19 2025.

I did not know that. THanks.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Sep 13 19:01:38 2025, in response to Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 10 14:52:18 2025.

This asshole blamed “Jewish dollars” for funding “cultural Marxist ideas." May he rot in hell.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 13 19:17:23 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Sep 13 19:01:38 2025.

Going to slander the dead now?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 19:22:26 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 17:08:19 2025.

No problem. I knew a guy that was in law enforcement and had duties related to the execution.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 19:26:17 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 17:34:34 2025.

It's a despicable sentiment but I was trying to understand how serious he might have been, the context of when it was said and whether you were going by a soundbite or statement that may have been misleading. I generally trust what you say but were in crazy times and there is lots of misinformation from both sides.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 19:39:05 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 19:26:17 2025.

Well, he seems to have really said it.

But I doubt he was serious in the sense of proposing amendments to the Constitution doing away with due process and the ban on cruel and unusual punishments.



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Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 19:55:26 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Sep 13 19:01:38 2025.

LOL you are a pitiful soul

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 20:14:29 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 19:39:05 2025.

I never doubted that he said it, but wasn't sure of the context or seriousness. By your responses, I gather that you hadn't actually heard what he said and weren't sure yourself.

I clicked on a video link and watched, and yes he was serious. They were discussing the murder of the Ukrainian woman on Charlotte light rail and that if people were violent that you might have to force them into facilities and he added his dumb comment.

It's theoretical so not quite the same as supporting an actual murder, but I wouldn't mind if he were fired over it.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 20:15:05 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 19:39:05 2025.

I never doubted that he said it, but wasn't sure of the context or seriousness. By your responses, I gather that you hadn't actually heard what he said and weren't sure yourself.

I clicked on a video link and watched, and yes he was serious. They were discussing the murder of the Ukrainian woman on Charlotte light rail and that if people were violent that you might have to force them into facilities and he added his dumb comment saying that they might need lethal injection.

It's theoretical so not quite the same as supporting an actual murder, but I wouldn't mind if he were fired over it.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 20:15:40 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 19:26:17 2025.

Lets look at the context.
1) the comment was made 3 days ago, 85 hours ago.
2) None of the mainstream media covered it until 2 hours ago when MSNBC( mainstream?) Reported it
3) The comment was made in response to Lawrence Jones comment/question about what to do about the violent homeless who refuse services offered and Jones said "lock them up?
4) The comment was made during a discussion about the young Ukrainian refugee who was slaughtered by one of these animals the night before. It seems AlM is more bothered by the off-hand comment than the murder that provoked it.



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Re: Jezebel website paid Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Sep 13 20:40:12 2025, in response to Jezebel website paid Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 10 22:43:26 2025.

Just when you think that people can’t stoop any lower, they prove that it is possible, with their own vile statements. Disgusting behavior from the far left.

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Re: Jezebel website paid Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Sep 13 20:46:44 2025, in response to Re: Jezebel website paid Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Sep 13 20:40:12 2025.

And while i whole-heartedly agree, facebook seems inundated with posts of people who have no public visibility, being fired for posts rejoicing in Charlie Kirk's assassination. Free speech and all.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 21:18:06 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 13 19:17:23 2025.

The dead can’t be slandered.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 21:18:49 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Sep 13 19:01:38 2025.

“Cultural Marxism” is not a conspiracy theory.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 21:20:10 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 20:14:29 2025.

Kilmeade has never been the sharpest bulb in the fountain.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 21:34:20 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 21:20:10 2025.

But notice that our right wing posters here are outraged at commentators who say that Kirk reaped what he sowed, yet quite complacent about Kilmeade calling for the death penalty for mental illness.



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Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 21:36:43 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 21:18:49 2025.

Nor is it an ideology (or whatever) funded primarily or conspicuously by Jewish dollars. Marxists nowadays aren't disproportionately Jewish. To claim so is antisemitism.






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Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 13 22:31:09 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 21:36:43 2025.

Historically they were, but nowadays Marxism is explicitly antisemitic, they just call it “antizionism.”

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 23:40:53 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 21:34:20 2025.

They aren't really equivalent. Kirk was a real person and was really killed. The Fox presenter was speaking hypothetically and no one was actually harmed.

I only ever heard of Charlie Kirk a couple of weeks ago when I watched part of one of his campus debate things. It seemed harmless enough to me.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 14 00:37:34 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie KKKirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Sep 13 19:01:38 2025.

Can't find any legitimate website that has this quote. They all have the first phrase you used always out of context. And it's always mixed with other spurious quotes.

Care to try again, KKKevin?

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Re: Jezebel website paid Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 14 01:07:21 2025, in response to Re: Jezebel website paid Etsy witches to curse Charlie Kirk, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Sep 13 20:40:12 2025.

Oh, they're getting worse and worse. There are online devils now calling for the murder of Kirk's widow and children.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 14 01:15:10 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 16:31:32 2025.

Nope. Out of context again.

Why don't you go away too? Have you ever been diagnosed with pseudologica fantastica?

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Sep 14 10:20:57 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 13 21:34:20 2025.

Its not over about Kilmeade. He could still get tossed or at least given a long unpaid vacation. It depends on how much blowback the network gets this week. I saw the clip and nobody else on the couch seemed the least bit fazed about the comment.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:11:07 2025, in response to PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 12:57:14 2025.



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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 14 12:18:25 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:11:07 2025.

What media outlets are mocking Kirk?

Anyway, these people are not comparable.

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:30:14 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 14 12:18:25 2025.



AND LIKE HELL THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE!

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:30:50 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 14 12:18:25 2025.



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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:32:21 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 14 12:18:25 2025.



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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:35:14 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 14 12:18:25 2025.



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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:47:53 2025, in response to PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 12:57:14 2025.



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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:54:47 2025, in response to Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 10 14:52:18 2025.



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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Sep 14 13:41:18 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 11 11:04:23 2025.

IAWTP

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Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Sep 14 14:19:10 2025, in response to Re: PARDON DEREK CHAUVIN NOW!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Sep 14 12:47:53 2025.

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Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Sep 14 14:21:06 2025, in response to Re: Breaking: Charlie Kirk shot in neck at Utah Valley University event, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Sep 12 09:18:49 2025.

Just because someone says hateful things in a “respectful” manner doesn’t mean they aren’t hateful. To say that is to sugarcoat the substance of what Kirk said and believed in.

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