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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by BIE on Sat Mar 17 20:32:45 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Mar 17 20:15:57 2007.

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They usually endorse the Republican candidates.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Mar 17 20:33:49 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by BIE on Sat Mar 17 20:32:45 2007.

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Really? Hmmm... Time to talk to my Economics teacher when I go back to school on Monday.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by BIE on Sat Mar 17 20:35:47 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Mar 17 20:33:49 2007.

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He will of course push you to vote right wing. Learn to draw the curves, but ignore the politics indoctrinated in that class.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Mar 17 20:40:00 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by BIE on Sat Mar 17 20:35:47 2007.

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That's true. But sometimes it's good to be a little Liberal, and a little Conservative. It depends on what the issue is.

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Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 21:10:41 2007, in response to Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 17 20:10:51 2007.

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Your lack of independent thought is noteable. Had I never posted a quote from Hillzilla, you'd never had a notion to post an alleged quote from the former mayor. An undocumented quote at that. Pitiful loser.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 21:11:46 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Mar 17 20:15:57 2007.

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On behalf of those who have, I thank you!

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Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 17 21:38:40 2007, in response to Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 21:10:41 2007.

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Sure I got the idea from you -- so what? All your posts are retreads from RNC talking points, National Review online, or similar sites.

As usual, you don't reply to the substance when you have no ideas, just deflect the issue to something else.

Undocumented? It's a transcript of a speech of Rudy's. I cite the issue of the Times it was in. I didn't post the URL because that requires access to the Times's online archives, which costs money. Did YOU source the Hillary quote in your first post? Nooo. And it turns out the Hillary quote was "documented" in ONE biased book, never substantiated anywhere else. So shut up.

If I'm such a loser, why do you reply to all my posts? I would be more impressed if you ignored a few.

You have become a depressingly tiresome parody of yourself.

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Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 21:44:16 2007, in response to Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 17 21:38:40 2007.

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You are correct and as such - from this point your posts do not exist. Please follow my example.

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Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 17 21:50:47 2007, in response to Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 21:44:16 2007.

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Tiresome as always, not worth a reply.

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Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 17 21:52:39 2007, in response to Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 21:44:16 2007.

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Tiresome as always. Perhaps you did not notice that I was merely repeating what you said about ME replying to your posts, in your post a few days ago. Dementia has set in, LOL.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Mar 17 23:28:19 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by BIE on Sat Mar 17 20:32:45 2007.

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Wrong, John.

I am a conservative Democrat. The last time I voted for a Republican was 1972, when I was young and stupid. (I was also in the Navy at the time and voted by absentee ballot.)

I got a lot smarter a bit later, haven't cast a ballot for a GOP candidate since.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 17 23:39:26 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Mar 17 23:28:19 2007.

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Ya know? It's weird about these NYC types and their perceptions of parties and what they really stand for. Up here where I am, it's the dems that are the hard-nosed tight-fisted "taxpayers want no part of this stupidity and I'm stopping the chit HERE" ... and the republicans are the drunken-sailor piss away money on crap types with nothing to show for it in the end. Like Paturkey, like Giuliani, like Bruno.

And then to listen to all this damned spin when anyone with half a brain stem can see right through the LIES. :-\

Vote early, vote often. Moo.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 23:50:59 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 17 23:39:26 2007.

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Vote often - especially if you are a democrat. No limit on ballots - even the dead get to vote.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 17 23:57:10 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 23:50:59 2007.

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Heh. You ARE aware that this is a problem with the overzealous on BOTH sides of the aisle ... until you can show me Shrub actually walking on water, let's not presume the Holier than Now party even if Jesus has been doing personal appearances for Brownback, Brownshirt, whatever the boy's name is ... in the end, BOTH parties are liars and thieves ...

But your single-minded zeal for the party that keeps shooting themselves and all of us in the foot sounds like the liberals of old who paraded Eugene McCarthy out for us all to admire ... heh. MY political standing right now? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't Con Edison. Who lowered your taxes? NOBODY! Who's looking out for YOU? NOBODY! NOBODY for President! :)

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 00:05:35 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 17 23:57:10 2007.

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"Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that forAmerica to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

(Hillary at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)


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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by JohnL on Sun Mar 18 00:11:39 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 19:01:06 2007.

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I’m 50. I think I approximate to being your contemporary. But you can recognize that mileage may vary.

Averages can be misleading. If you look at statistics for the last few years, the mean has done very nicely, thank you, buoyed by huge giveaways at the top. The median and the mode numbers have been terrible.

Please feel free to research and confirm this information.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by JohnL on Sun Mar 18 00:19:34 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 17 23:57:10 2007.

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…until you can show me Shrub actually walking on water…

I have way lower aspirations: I’ll settle for Shrub walking underwater. For a long time…

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 18 00:25:54 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 00:05:35 2007.

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Funny how the hollywood crowd w/all their money seems to embrace this thinking. And you wonder why they are so screwed up.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 01:01:14 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 00:05:35 2007.

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Of course, borrowing from foreign countries is the way to go, right? while businessmen still send our manufacturing overseas at an accelerated rate, and the remaining domestic manufacturing is bought up by alien corporations (mostly from Germany, but also from China and Russia). "Globalization" is un-American.

I'm no Hillary fan, but that's brutal honesty, to a point—pity that it will most likely not be backed up with a return of heavy industry to our soil where it belongs.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:06:00 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by JohnL on Sun Mar 18 00:11:39 2007.

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Well, I was not speaking strictly of age as contemporaries. I know that my contemporaries incomes have kept pace with rising costs (at worst) while the housing market and the stock market contiue to perform well. Net worth has grown significantly.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:07:34 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 18 00:25:54 2007.

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That's the socialism of the extreme left. Forgive them for they simply cannot control that impulse to tax and redistribute.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:19:23 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 01:01:14 2007.

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Globalization is a fact of this century. What do you propose as an alternative? The extreme left is as much to blame as ayone else. Look at "Labor". The UAW leadership has been more responsible for jobs leaving the US that almost any other entity. Just look at their position no raising the fuel economy of the US auto fleet. According to the Ron Gettlefinger - it can't be done.

("The imposition of stringent increases in vehicle efficiency standards could lead to calamitous results," said UAW President Ron Gettelfinger. "This could include the closing of additional facilities and the loss of tens of thousands of additional auto jobs in this country.")

So instead of the US auto makers leading the world, they force US car buyers to go to foreign makers for fuel efficient cars.

Read it here :http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070315/BUSINESS01/703150338/1002

This is the hypocracy of the left. They are green but it's the green of greed and not ecology.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 18 01:32:31 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 00:05:35 2007.

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Gate's a real paper, and I agree with her. I remember Bill Clinton also pointing out that Bush gave him a tax cut he neither wanted nor needed. Imagine what a tax cut would have done for YOU had it not gone to people who really didn't NEED the extra money? I remember Warren Buffett also saying that.

I'm firmly in favor of tax cuts for those who are on the chit end of a disappearing middle class ... fact is that those tax cuts were coupled with severe losses of revenue to the states and thanks to Paturkey pulling the SAME chit, those losses got passed down to towns and villages who hiked the crap out of your property and school taxes to make up the difference.

Woulda been nice though if the amount of the tax cuts and removal of taxes at the bottom end of the scale were a bit more equal. I remember years ago when I made nearly $200,000 in income and paid LESS in taxes (dollars, not percent) than I'm paying now under $25,000 ... something's WRONG with that. :(

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Mar 18 01:34:10 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by JohnL on Sun Mar 18 00:19:34 2007.

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All depends on what you tank him up with. :)

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 02:40:50 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:19:23 2007.

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Globalization is a fact of this century. What do you propose as an alternative?

The protectionism our so-called "global partners" are instituting. They're wise; we're not so wise. We sell our technology freely; they shut us out of the very markets we set up. And even worse, we're dependent on them for virtually everything.

Look at "Labor". The UAW leadership has been more responsible for jobs leaving the US that almost any other entity. Just look at their position no raising the fuel economy of the US auto fleet. According to the Ron Gettlefinger - it can't be done

Are you sure that the UAW's leadership hasn't been bought out? That's been happening all over. That's not terribly "left-wing" of the unions, although it is very Stalinistic. Nor is that what unions are supposed to be involved in—the union leadership making business decisions for the company??—no, their primary goal is to look after the membership, not make company decisions or get involved in what they think the market wants. Sellout leadership, which I equate with being part of the company. (Where are the real unions anymore?)

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Re: Bush's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 02:49:38 2007, in response to Re: Bush's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by BIE on Sat Mar 17 19:55:37 2007.

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If everyone who had a net worth less than $10 million in America dropped dead

. . . the rich fat-cats would have nobody to sell to.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 03:11:16 2007, in response to Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 16:58:01 2007.

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Guess I'll have to buy the book I've Always Been A Yankee Fan to see if there was anything else she said about this—or read it at a bookstore. The quote's related to discussions of her health-care proposals with Dennis Hastert. I'm dying to find out what she meant by "those choices".

I reckon that if every candid remark uttered by every DC politician of our era were made available for public perusal, we might have a second American Revolution.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 18 04:38:31 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Mar 17 19:13:27 2007.

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That quote is from 93. I daresay she doesn't utter quotes like that nowadays. Nobody does.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Mar 18 08:28:19 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 17 19:01:06 2007.

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Your President of the New Republic of Iraq, elected by the voters of the United States, and upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, is doing just fine, I agree with you.

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Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 18 08:31:04 2007, in response to Re: Giuliani's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 17 21:38:40 2007.

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Really, how could you interrupt the righties' little affirmation session like that? Shame on you! Besides, there are enough choice quotes from our sitting President to more than compensate for a couple of 14 year old reruns. That and the pearls from our senile clotted Vice President who looks like he's pre-stroke. Seriously, I think he's getting Reaganish...

your pal,
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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 09:09:58 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:06:00 2007.

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ONTARIO Ca
- It's a simple question, not unlike one Joe McCarthy
himself might have asked.
Are you now or have you ever been part of the middle class?
"This is one of those questions I love," said Wally Knox, the
founder and director of the Institute for the Middle Class.
"If you ask an American what class he's in, literally 90
percent of them will say they're part of the middle class."
By definition, that's not possible, and it was one of the
issues being discussed Friday at Ontario Convention Center as
part of the Southern California Association of Governments'
10th annual economic conference.
The day's topic - "The Middle Class on Life Support" - was
addressed by a dozen different speakers from business,
government, academia and the media.
The general conclusion was that there are some things that can
be done and some things that can't. Lamenting the loss of
manufacturing jobs won't accomplish anything, but battling for
better job training and more affordable housing might
accomplish something.
"The middle class has been feeling a lot of angst," said Anil
Puri, dean of business and economics at Cal State Fullerton.
"High health care costs, high transportation costs
high education costs and high housing costs, all at a time
when globalization has taken away many high-paying jobs.
"The middle class is worse off despite six years or pretty
continuous economic growth."
It was left to Puri to come up with a
definition. Ninety percent might consider themselves middle
class, but the reality is far lower.
Historically, middle class has meant those having a household
income of between 80percent and 120 percent of the median.
Nationally, that means incomes between $35,200 and $52,800.
In California, it works out to a range of $40,000 to $65,000.
"People who are part of the middle class cannot actually
afford the middle class lifestyle," Puri said. "The American
dream - owning a home, having two cars, sending the kids to
college."
A wider view that would include a lower middle class and an
upper middle class would expand the range from about $15,000
on the low end to $100,000 at the top. That would encompass
about 75 percent to
80 percent of the population.
"This is an issue that is long overdue for us to be focusing
on," said Mark Pisano, executive director of SCAG. "We need to
find an industry that will replace manufacturing as the core
area that built our middle class."
Larry Kosmont, director of the Kosmont-
Rose Institute, said California needs to find
a way to lower the cost of doing business in the state.
He suggested finding a way to fast-track projects and to
direct the coming funds from infrastructure bonds to projects
that will engender the most private investment.
"We have something of a perfect convergence of issues,"
Kosmont said. "The employment scene is changing, housing is
unaffordable for most people and people who can afford homes
are having to decide between longer commutes or smaller,
denser dwellings."
Kosmont pointed out that for all the talk about globalization,
California is losing more jobs each year to Texas than to
China and India combined.
"Governments ignore competitiveness at their own peril," he
said.
Regional economist John Husing, who served as host of the
conference, spoke of the widening gap between the well-off and
the not-so-well-off.
"We are clearly having some difficulty with the center of our
economic system," Husing said. "The 269,000 families in the
Southland who make $200,000 or more - the top 3 percent - have
about the same total income as the bottom 3.9 million
people."

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 09:10:54 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:06:00 2007.

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or many older Americans, retirement is a time of fulfillment
and relaxation.
But as waves of baby boomers reach their senior years, some
experts are concerned over an expected increase in suicide.
"There are two ways to retire," said Ben Green, executive
director of the Pasadena Senior Center, "one where you plan
and have purpose, and the other where you just sit around with
no goals. You can tell a person is old when they don't have
plans for a trip or an event, and that's a person more
susceptible to suicide."
In 2003, about 31,500 Americans committed suicide, according
to the National Center for Health Statistics.
Roughly 17 percent of that number, or 5,300, were seniors,
which means nearly 15 older Americans kill themselves each
day.
And despite the fact that the rate of senior suicides had
decreased in 2003, compared with overall numbers since the
1930s, public health experts and policy makers agree that the
sheer number of aging people born between 1946 and 1965 will
increase that number.
"I can absolutely guarantee you the number of suicides will go
up because the number of older people is going up," said Dr.
John McIntosh, a professor of psychology at Indiana
University. "Older adulthood continues to be the highest time
period for suicide due to life stresses they face that young
people don't face."
Often associated with the death of a loved one, physical
illness or uncontrollable pain, elderly suicide is also
brought about by fear of a prolonged illness that damages
family members emotionally and economically, social isolation,
and major changes in social roles, such as retirement,
according to the National Institute for
Mental Health.
With that in mind, the 80 million or so baby boomers soon to
enter retirement age will be forced to compete for social
services including Medical and Medicare, creating a financial
burden not seen before.
But even as baby boomers' sheer numbers create a risk in terms
of competition for resources, united, they create a powerful
voting block able to affect changes beneficial to their needs,
McIntosh notes.
Indeed, Congress is already taking note, with new legislation
planned that would give seniors better access to mental health
care and other resources that would lower risks of possible
suicides.
Sen. Gordon H. Smith, R-Ore., chairman of the Senate Special
Committee on Aging, has said he would pursue legislation to
change payment schedules.
"It is very important that we understand that depression is
neither a weakness nor a normal part of aging," said Smith,
whose son committed suicide three years ago, in a published
report.
For more information, visit www.healthyplace.com or call the
Pasadena Senior Center at (626) 795-4331.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 09:14:30 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 01:06:00 2007.

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EARLY 16 million Americans are living in severe poverty, the
McClatchy Washington Bureau reported recently. These are
individuals making less than $5,080 a year and families of
four bringing in less than $9,903 a year, hardly imaginable in
this day and age.
That number has been growing rapidly since 2000. And, as a
percentage, those living in severe poverty has reached a
32-year high.
Even more troubling, the report noted that in any given month
only 10 percent of the severe poor received Temporary
Assistance for Needy Families and only 36 percent received
food stamps.
Clearly, those numbers reveal issues that policymakers need to
address. Without some assistance, those in most severe poverty
tend to fall into all sorts of other difficulties, such as
health and housing problems, which lead to children's
education problems, which lead to even deeper poverty, which
perpetuates the cycle.
But there's another issue. We can't address problems unless we
know about them. That means we need good data that point us to
problems.
We only know about the troublingly high poverty rates and low
assistance participation rates because the U.S. Census Bureau
has a "Survey of Income and Program
Participation." For the last quarter-century, the Census
Bureau has done personal interviews of American families,
following them over a number of years and tracking family
resources (cash and noncash) and participation in various
government programs (such as Social Security, food stamps,
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, school lunches and
unemployment insurance).
Obviously, such information is useful. Yet the Bush
administration budget for 2007 eliminated the survey. The
Census Bureau was asked to come up with $40 million in budget
savings, so the Survey of Income and Program Participation
took the hit. But after protests from states, counties,
economists and researchers, Congress restored funding.
So we come to the president's 2008 budget. It, too, eliminates
the survey.
This is counterproductive, even in an era of scarce resources.
This is the only large-scale survey that analyzes the
before-and-after effects of policy changes on individual
families over time.
It helps policymakers and researchers determine what
triggering factors get people to go on and off government
programs. The National Academy of Sciences panel, "Measuring
Poverty," recommended that the Survey of Income and Program
Participation should become the basis of official U.S. income
and poverty statistics.
If we lose the Survey of Income and Program Participation, we
lose a quarter-century investment in high-quality data on the
effectiveness of government programs, such as welfare reform.
Policymakers and researchers need good data to show what works
and what doesn't as they craft new policies and fix old ones.
Congress will have to restore funding for the survey again.
Sacramento Bee


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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 09:50:12 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 03:11:16 2007.

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"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe "

Hillary in 1996" From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 - Hillary in 1996)


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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 09:55:22 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Mar 18 08:28:19 2007.

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Is that supposed to be pithy or clever? Failed on both accounts. I do not live in Iraq nor did I vote for the leadership there. I live in this country and we have one leader. You don't like it, change it but the majority in this country disagreed with you in 2004. Get over it.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 09:59:14 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 09:10:54 2007.

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Please, Sally, one favor. If you plan on committing suicide, please let me know. I'd love to video-tape it.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:07:19 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 09:59:14 2007.

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please stepahnie do yourself one first !!
show some intellgence
is that possible /
what about the article ?
dont have the brains to answer that?

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:09:09 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:07:19 2007.

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moron, thanks but if I wanted someone to provide a selected reading list for things to read I'd choose a bit more carefully than an unemployed and illiterate dolt from the left coast.


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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:15:59 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:09:09 2007.

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i too tuff 4 ya!!
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:17:27 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:15:59 2007.

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You is a light-weight cream-puff

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:20:06 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:17:27 2007.

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your tri cycle you call a bike wont make it past colorado !!
it and you will burn up after denver !!

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:21:16 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:17:27 2007.

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cant deal with the article
so resorts to attacks
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post your life history here
especailly all the things we can flame you on
post all the things you did wrong
admit all your mistakes you made in your life
tell us your criminal history
we want to know all about you
even to the clothes that you wear
and give us all the dates and times of
everything in your life
tell us all and everything about you
you dont know nothing about me at all 'zero'!
i do not owe you anything
you do not pay any of my bills ...nothing !!
i am not your employee
i do not owe you nothing at all
die


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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:32:48 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:20:06 2007.

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Get a job

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:33:04 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:21:16 2007.

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get a job

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:40:55 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:33:04 2007.

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First of all i am Employed and or Self Employed !
You have no proff i am not!!
Where i work and who i work for is none of your
business! and if i am self employed and that is
how i earn a honest living that is also none of
your business whatsoever and not at all
You and no one else on this message board pays any
of my bills. None of you can prove you pay any of
my billis in my household
I Pay my TAXES public state federal & Private !!
My employment is none of your business
You have no proff i am not employed
You have no proff i am not self employed
you do not even know if i own my own business
And all of this will remain none of your
business! I do not owe you anything at all nothing!
And i do not owe you my current employment status
Your false attacks ''get a job'' or get of 'welfare'
is wrong and you do not and will remain uninformed
and drown in your own ignorance forever on this!!
My employment status is none of your business
Where someone works and how they earn a living
is not public information especially here on
a public internet message board !! whew !! So!
you all need to pay attention to your own affairs
this problem you have is all your own not mine

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 18 10:41:28 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 10:32:48 2007.

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First of all i am Employed and or Self Employed !
You have no proff i am not!!
Where i work and who i work for is none of your
business! and if i am self employed and that is
how i earn a honest living that is also none of
your business whatsoever and not at all
You and no one else on this message board pays any
of my bills. None of you can prove you pay any of
my billis in my household
I Pay my TAXES public state federal & Private !!
My employment is none of your business
You have no proff i am not employed
You have no proff i am not self employed
you do not even know if i own my own business
And all of this will remain none of your
business! I do not owe you anything at all nothing!
And i do not owe you my current employment status
Your false attacks ''get a job'' or get of 'welfare'
is wrong and you do not and will remain uninformed
and drown in your own ignorance forever on this!!
My employment status is none of your business
Where someone works and how they earn a living
is not public information especially here on
a public internet message board !! whew !! So!
you all need to pay attention to your own affairs
this problem you have is all your own not mine

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by BIE on Sun Mar 18 10:52:41 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Mar 17 23:28:19 2007.

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I am referricg to the New York Conservative Party. Since New York allows fusion voting, a vove for candidatye X cast on che Conservative line conts along with the votes he may receive on say, the Republican line. This party usually, but not always, endorses the Republican candidate but occasionally runs its own candidate or endorses the Democratic candidate.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by BIE on Sun Mar 18 10:58:03 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 00:05:35 2007.

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The nazio tax cuts only benefited welfare sucking stockholders. We need a surge in tax rates on unearned income to get freedom back. Let the corporate criminals know that there is more to fear than market risk.

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Re: Bush's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by BIE on Sun Mar 18 11:07:00 2007, in response to Re: Bush's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 18 02:49:38 2007.

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They would lord it over the Chinese peasents. Fat cats want no peat of people who know freedom.

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Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate

Posted by BIE on Sun Mar 18 11:12:54 2007, in response to Re: Hillary's Candid View of the Electorate, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 09:50:12 2007.

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Who was the publisher? --Self published. Even Regnery wouldn't touch that turd.

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