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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Tue Jul 8 15:44:18 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jul 8 14:39:59 2025.* LOL. The State has major powers to prevent Mamdani from implementing his agenda. But a federal takeover would never hold up. If Mamdani tried to anything illegal the state courts would shut him down really fast.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Tue Jul 8 18:43:05 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 18:58:12 2025.* "Better a crook than a communist." Many years ago, Hubert Humphrey once said "I'd rather have a guy working for me that's smart but a little shifty as opposed to someone who's honest but stupid"
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 8 22:27:27 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jul 8 18:43:05 2025.* Can't find that quote anywhere. Never mind who Humphrey's boss was; bad enough Humphrey himself was DFL.
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Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Jul 8 22:33:32 2025, in response to MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 14:32:17 2025.* Associated Press Ex-NYPD chiefs allege corruption and cronyism in lawsuits against Mayor Adams and his allies Four high-ranking former New York City police officials are accusing Mayor Eric Adams and his top deputies of doling out promotions to unqualified allies as part of a scheme that also involved alleged cash bribes paid to the ex-police commissioner. In separate lawsuits filed Monday, the former officials — including the NYPD’s one-time chief of detectives — described a culture of rampant corruption and cronyism atop the nation’s largest police department, which was rocked by overlapping federal investigations late last year. Each of the plaintiffs says that, with Adams’ tacit approval, they were either demoted or forced into retirement after raising concerns about the practices, according to their lawsuits. A spokesperson for Adams, who is currently running for reelection, said he would review the lawsuits, adding that all of the police department’s leaders are held to the “highest standards.” Beginning in 2023, the suits allege that Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey, a longtime ally of Adams, began bypassing internal hiring regulations to promote dozens of “unqualified friends” to key public safety posts. Inquiries to an attorney for Maddrey were not returned. At the time, several veteran NYPD officials raised objections, including the department’s chief of detectives, James Essig, who noticed an “unusually high number” of inexperienced transfers to the department’s sex crimes unit, according to his lawsuit. But when Essig complained to Edward Caban, then the first deputy to the police commissioner, he said he was reprimanded for raising the issue. After Caban was promoted to police commissioner, he informed Essig, a veteran of the department for four decades, that he would be demoted from his position by five ranks. According to the suit, Essig later learned Caban was “selling promotions” to hand-picked friends for up to $15,000. An attorney for Essig, Sarena Townsend, declined to elaborate on the basis of the bribery allegation. Essig resigned in September of 2023 rather than accept the demotion. In an emailed statement, attorneys for Caban called the bribery allegation “unsupported and reckless,” adding that there was “no merit to the allegations raised in these complaints.” Caban resigned from his position in September following a raid on his home by the FBI. Maddrey, whose home was also searched by federal agents, stepped down after being accused of demanding sex from a subordinate. Neither has been criminally charged. A spokesperson for the NYPD did not respond to a request for comment. The lawsuits also accuse current police officials, including Chief of Department John Chell, of working to squash internal oversight of the mayor’s allies and policing priorities. In one instance, the NYPD’s former chief of professional standards, Matthew Pontillo, said that an audit of the department’s Community Response Team turned up “troubling patterns” of unconstitutional stops by officers who delayed turning on their body cameras. After Pontillo raised the finding in a meeting with then-Commissioner Keechant Sewell, Chell pulled him aside and said, “Why’d you have to tell her?” according to the suit. Sewell met with Adams later that day, according to the suit. She resigned hours later and was later replaced by Caban.
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Tue Jul 8 23:38:02 2025, in response to Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 8 22:33:32 2025.* And this is supposed to be a surprise to anyone?
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 9 00:33:06 2025, in response to Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jul 8 23:38:02 2025. Well, not to me at least.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jul 9 05:27:01 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 8 12:25:31 2025.* Or liberals and “the left.” This is a common trope on “the right”, though.
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jul 9 05:49:34 2025, in response to Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 8 22:33:32 2025.* New York City is the Baton Rouge of ~~America~~ The North.
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Jul 9 07:36:09 2025, in response to Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 8 22:33:32 2025.* Yep!
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Jul 9 12:19:30 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 8 14:40:20 2025.* 🙄
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Catfish 44* on Wed Jul 9 12:20:01 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 8 15:44:18 2025.* That’s why is so funny.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jul 9 12:35:52 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 8 15:44:18 2025.* What I don't get is the Teachers Union endorsing Mamdani. How, with good conscience could they endorse this Communist, Muslim anti-semite whose membership has a large percentage of Jewish teachers?
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jul 9 13:12:33 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 9 12:35:52 2025.* You're assuming teachers' unions have conscience of any kind, much less "good" conscience. And have you ever heard of the "self hatred" phenomenon?
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Jul 9 13:31:38 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 9 12:35:52 2025.* Time and time again, it has been shown that the NYC liberals vote against their best interests. Newsflash: those poor, downtrodden savages that they like to "champion" are NEVER going to see you as an ally!
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jul 9 13:47:03 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 9 13:31:38 2025.* Liberals everywhere vote against their best interests. Until they can't vote anymore, because the autocrats they voted for took their right to vote away by force.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Jul 9 13:50:45 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 9 13:47:03 2025.* Correct
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 9 14:58:55 2025, in response to Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 8 22:33:32 2025. I didn't trust Caban the first time I saw his face. Sinister looking dude. Sewell resigning so abruptly was telling. She knew there was a lot of shyt going on which she did not want to know about. So she flew the coop. Couldn't blame her one bit.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Wed Jul 9 15:12:39 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 9 12:35:52 2025.* He's a socialist, not a communist. Do you really not understand the difference? PS. His being a socialist is ample reason to not support him. But calling Mamdani a communist is exactly equivalent to calling Trump a Nazi.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by LuchAAA* on Wed Jul 9 15:14:38 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 9 15:12:39 2025.* Isn't Mamdandi a National Socialist? I'm pretty sure that's his official affiliation.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Easy* on Wed Jul 9 15:22:44 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 9 15:14:38 2025.* Wouldn’t that make him a Republican?
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jul 9 15:46:09 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Easy on Wed Jul 9 15:22:44 2025.* Only according to hard-left Democrats.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jul 9 22:13:48 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 9 15:12:39 2025.* "...Mamdani a communist is exactly equivalent to calling Trump a Nazi." Your post is complete nonsense. Mamdani is more of a communist than Trump could ever be a Nazi. Look up the definition of communism. A big part of that is the seizing of property by the government. So what does he want to do with all the grocery stores??
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Jul 10 00:23:06 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 9 22:13:48 2025.* The very notion of seizing the grocery stores does mark Mamdani as communistic, or at least socialistic. Very few look up the definition of national socialism (Nazism), never mind either socialism per se or communism. Communism is impossible because it's a theoretical stateless society with no families, no private property, no national borders and no religion. Socialism is merely communism with the authoritarian one-party state, which communists claim will "wither away" and leave communism as described above in its place; they never mention that all-powerful authoritarian one-party states consolidate power and instead perpetuate themselves, i.e. the opposite of withering away.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 10 02:28:39 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 9 22:13:48 2025.* Mamdani is not proposing to seize property without compensation.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Avid Reader* on Thu Jul 10 07:40:05 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 9 12:35:52 2025.* What I don't get is the Teachers Union endorsing Mamdani. How, with good conscience could they endorse this Communist, Muslim anti-semite whose membership has a large percentage of Jewish teachers? If the Teachers Union were sex workers, they would be in the S&M crowd!
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by rkba* on Thu Jul 10 11:00:07 2025, in response to Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 8 22:33:32 2025.* caban and his brother are just typical bronx street urchins. look up their little restaurant empire when you're bored. maddrey is a textbook mutt, a complete sleaze. (common theme in pbbn) his name came up a lot in group 1. chell killed a kid and miraculously, nothing happened to him. somehow ends up the chief of department.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Jul 10 14:39:39 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 10 02:28:39 2025.* Yes, he is.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 10 15:37:25 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 10 14:39:39 2025.* Link?
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jul 10 15:46:16 2025, in response to MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 14:32:17 2025.* NYC is doomed if that psycho communist gets in. If Silva is not possible, PLEASE vote for Adams. Cuomo better jump out, as he's going to cause that lunatic to get in
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Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 16:03:01 2025, in response to Re: Four former NYPD department heads accusing Eric Adams of corruption, cronyism, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 9 05:49:34 2025. It's absolutely insane that the people running for mayor of the biggest city in the world are these idiots. Silva doesn't seem to have a chance in NYC climate, so everyone has to get behind Adams as bad as he is. The Communist mandani is perhaps the first possible outcome. And Cuomo? Please, why is he even here, although I'd even take that moron over the Communist
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Jul 10 16:03:40 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 15:46:16 2025.* Many who post here want Mamdandi to win. Just read their posts. He's their dream Mayor. Osmosis Jones AlM Nilet Dand124 Fbklyn clearaspect Spider-Pig Fred G SMAZ RPanse JayZeeBMT Salaam RIPTA cortelyounext Dire Dan Italianstallion Fisk Ave Jim Jtrainloco trainsarefun and others.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jul 10 16:08:09 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 10 02:28:39 2025.* Yes he is, don't defend that communist.he makes just about every other Democrat we've bashed here look like a prize. Even clueless AOC would be better, where did this lunatic mandani come from?
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jul 10 16:49:53 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 16:03:40 2025.* It's sick actually
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 10 17:17:36 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 16:08:09 2025.* I'm not defending him. I object when people call Trump a Nazi, but that doesn't mean I defend him.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Jul 10 17:27:02 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 10 17:17:36 2025.* ??? He's a self defined one. Trump is no Nazi, he hasn't tortured, killed,and incinerated 100s of millions of people.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 10 17:48:28 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 17:27:02 2025.* He's a self defined one. Huh? He specifically says he's not a Communist. And no one actually seems able to point to any quotes that reflect Communism rather than socialism. And as I said, Trump is no Nazi.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Thu Jul 10 17:53:03 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 10 17:48:28 2025.* Didn't Richard Nixon say that he wasn't a crook?
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Jul 10 19:44:26 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 10 15:37:25 2025.* LOALM!
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Jul 10 19:46:15 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 16:03:40 2025.* LOLUCH
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Jul 10 19:48:12 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 16:08:09 2025.* Uganda
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Jul 10 20:55:14 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jul 10 17:53:03 2025.* He was paranoid
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Jul 10 21:09:32 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 16:49:53 2025.* I say Mamdani will raise more money than any mayoral candidate in history. Everything about him makes liberals and the Soros machine want to get behind him. If I'm wrong, I'll eat one of Olog's eggs.
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Posted by rkba* on Thu Jul 10 21:11:56 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 21:09:32 2025.* would love to see the donald take over NYC when he wins...just like the EU does to countries when true conservatives prevail.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jul 11 01:00:18 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 10 17:27:02 2025.* That's not the definition of a national socialist.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jul 11 04:48:08 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 21:09:32 2025.* That means more subversion of elections. Money does not translate to votes; forgot that Hillary outraised Trump?
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Fri Jul 11 08:59:31 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 10 19:44:26 2025.* I Googled the topic and all I find is Trump, Fox and others calling him a communist. He proposes to seize the means of production, but so did the Brits in the 1950s and they weren't communists. I do not find anything where he proposes to seize the means of production without compensation. And no one else here has cited anything.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri Jul 11 13:27:10 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 08:59:31 2025.* He also talks about “class consciousness”. That and seizing the means of production is communism.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Fri Jul 11 13:32:57 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 11 01:00:18 2025.* Yes, but they are constantly attempting to ridiculously compare Trump to the Nazis.
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Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI
Posted by AlM* on Fri Jul 11 14:17:05 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 11 13:27:10 2025.* He also talks about “class consciousness”. Any number of socialists (and non-socialists) talk about that. It's mumbo jumbo and nothing real. That and seizing the means of production is communism. It wasn't communism when Britain and Sweden did it in the 1950s. It was socialism. It's only communism when compensation is not paid. I'm still waiting for a link where Mamdani proposes seizure of the means of production without compensation.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Fri Jul 11 14:50:38 2025, in response to Re: MAGA vs. MAMDANI, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 11 14:17:05 2025.* FALSE! Communism is distinguishable from socialism in general by its focus on class conflict. “Seizure” implies lack of compensation and in any event nationalizing a few industries is not seizure of the means of production. In any event, seizure of the entirety of the means of production with compensation is impossible.
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