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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 27 15:13:52 2020, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Displaced Angeleno on Fri Mar 27 14:59:09 2020.

The 1st of 3 is by far the slowest learner.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Displaced Angeleno on Fri Mar 27 16:10:51 2020, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 27 15:13:52 2020.

I agree.

I voted for Mayor de Blasio (2x) and Governor Cuomo in general elections. I have no qualms holding them responsible for their failures.

I do take issue with the idea that they and not the President are responsible for their missteps, which is what OP is trying to do by omission.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 27 21:32:18 2020, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Displaced Angeleno on Fri Mar 27 16:10:51 2020.

The President is President of the entire country. The NYC mayor and administration is supposed to know what's best for NYC, as the Burlington VT Mayor knows what's best for Burlington.

The Trump admin could have issued guidelines such as "if you have positive cases and a population density > x, you should probably shelter in place now." Not because anyone would have listened, I suspect they would have been defiantly ignored and we'd be in the exact same position now either way. However he'd be able to say "I told you so" every time an NY politician gets ornery.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Mar 28 08:21:35 2020, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 27 21:32:18 2020.

What good are the CDC and Homeland Security, then? Local pols are incentivized not to look like mass murderers because they ignored public health warnings and guidelines.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 28 19:38:43 2020, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Mar 28 08:21:35 2020.

One week before DiBlasio's asinine tweet The CDC had recommended social distancing (first paragraph).

They did their job. DiBlasio undermined the message.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 07:16:22 2025, in response to NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 10:52:56 2020.

A year later and they'd call stuff like this "superspreader events", but only if "the right" did it. (necrobump)

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by rkba on Sat Jul 5 09:42:34 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 07:16:22 2025.

what ever happened to failed paramedic jayzeebmt? aids?

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jul 5 12:51:37 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by rkba on Sat Jul 5 09:42:34 2025.

He was never the same after that Jussie gay was found to be a liar.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 13:11:40 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 07:16:22 2025.

Well, for 2 full years the US death rate, at all ages, was 15% higher than during the prior decade. How do you think that happened?


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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 15:03:02 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 13:11:40 2025.

Depends on what they died from. Lets factor in the Fentanyl factor and a higher overall population that would inflate the numbers.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 5 15:43:15 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by rkba on Sat Jul 5 09:42:34 2025.

Dude called me a conservative.🤪

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 5 16:50:55 2025, in response to NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 10:52:56 2020.

I never panicked

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jul 5 16:57:13 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 5 16:50:55 2025.

No face diapers?

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 16:58:29 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 15:03:02 2025.

Huh?

The death rate at each age (percentage of people of that age who died in a given year) went up by about 15% for about a 2-year period starting in March 2020.

You can claim that this is all an unbelievable coincidence and not related to covid, or you can accept that the extra deaths were due to the covid pandemic.



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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:00:09 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Jul 5 16:50:55 2025.

Neither did I.

I've been greatly saddened by the death and permanent disability of people I have been close to. But not panicked.


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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 17:43:56 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 16:58:29 2025.

I never said that. However, Statistics can be manipulated to bolster any argument

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 17:50:58 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jul 5 16:57:13 2025.

My favorite "face diaper"!!


original

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:53:45 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 17:43:56 2025.

Life insurance company losses due to a rise in claims can't easily be manipulated.

Do you really not believe that the death rate went up by 15%?



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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jul 5 17:55:31 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 17:50:58 2025.

Christ Almighty is that funny!

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 5 18:02:46 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:53:45 2025.

Devil's advocate but it could be that the increased deaths were at least partially from the response to the pandemic and not the pandemic itself. For example, former MTV VJ Ananda Lewis recently died of breast cancer. Before she died she claimed that she missed the her cancer ramping up because she was unable to get her regular tests done for many months after the start of the pandemic. It could be that others with similar serious conditions went untreated or undiagnosed for similar reasons.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 18:49:47 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 5 18:02:46 2025.

Certainly failure to get treatment for other diseases because of the pandemic was a contributing factor.

But the death rate went up right away in March 2020, stayed up, and then dropped back down again. The phenomenon you describe would, if widespread, result in a delayed increased death rate.



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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 21:11:11 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jul 5 17:55:31 2025.

Goes in thru the fly...comes out thru the fly!

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 21:12:36 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:53:45 2025.

I believe it. Just would like to see the breakdown

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Jul 6 00:06:00 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 5 07:16:22 2025.

I loved the way the left said it was a racist conspiracy.
I wish people remembered the hypocracy.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jul 6 09:26:40 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 5 15:43:15 2025.

You are! 🤣

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jul 6 13:20:28 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jul 5 16:57:13 2025.

Only if I was deprived service.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 6 13:43:52 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:53:45 2025.

Life insurance company losses due to a rise in claims can't easily be manipulated

You making things up again?

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 6 14:20:29 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 17:50:58 2025.

Now that's thinking on the fly.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jul 6 18:55:14 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:00:09 2025.

Like hell you didn't panic.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Jul 6 19:18:41 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 5 17:53:45 2025.

Life insurance companies lost $$$ due to Covid?

I don't think so. Life insurance companies never lose money. Worst case scenario is that they didn't make as much. I haven't heard of any life insurance company thats on the ropes due to Covid

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 00:15:03 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jul 6 18:55:14 2025.

People still wear masks in the Year of their Lord 2025 and AlM tried to justify it when I pointed it out.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 7 01:06:06 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 00:15:03 2025.

lo@lm!

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jul 7 06:49:22 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 00:15:03 2025.

Especially on planes. I’ve been on six flights in the last couple weeks and quite a few folks wear masks aka face diapers.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 7 11:06:06 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jul 5 21:11:11 2025.

comes out thru the fly!

FLY TO FLY. round TRIP!



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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jul 7 14:06:36 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 7 01:06:06 2025.

Lo@lm! X 2!!

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 7 14:08:18 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jul 6 18:55:14 2025.

Who the hell do you think you are to tell me what I'm feeling?


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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 7 14:10:58 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 00:15:03 2025.

Yep.

And my wife and I are still alive and well, while a bunch of friends and family my age are dead or permanently disabled.

I fully acknowledge the risks of covid are much less at your age.



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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 14:33:23 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 7 14:10:58 2025.

Most of the mask cult are younger than I am.

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Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 7 16:47:15 2025, in response to Re: NYC tells citizens nothing to worry about for covid-19, go on with your day, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 7 14:33:23 2025.

Maybe. And anyway, you specifically referred to me, and I have not, since vaccines became available, tried to claim that young people need to wear masks. Just that it's not a problem if they wish to do so.

In my neighborhood, the only people who wear masks are old people and Asian-Americans. And only a minority of either of those groups.



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