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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 16:39:45 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 27 15:50:35 2024.

Jews have only been considered white since 1945.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 16:40:22 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 27 16:11:04 2024.

They don’t even know the latter exist. Or Mizrahi.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by rkba on Sat Apr 27 16:41:10 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 16:39:45 2024.

White-adjacent, perhaps. definitely not White.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by rkba on Sat Apr 27 16:41:57 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 11:15:14 2024.

perception is everything.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 16:55:36 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 16:36:19 2024.

We've met. You are White.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 16:56:07 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 16:39:45 2024.

By whom?

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 18:06:45 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 16:55:36 2024.

Thanks.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 18:07:03 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 16:56:07 2024.

By other white people.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 18:29:13 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 18:06:45 2024.

Uh, you're welcome.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 18:29:47 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 18:07:03 2024.

Link or fink?

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 27 18:54:28 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 18:29:47 2024.

RAT FINK ?

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 19:08:44 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 18:29:47 2024.

https://jewishcurrents.org/when-did-jews-become-white

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 27 19:09:02 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 27 18:54:28 2024.



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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Apr 27 19:21:18 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by rkba on Sat Apr 27 16:41:10 2024.

I agree. Closer to white, but definitely not white.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Apr 27 19:28:33 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 27 19:09:02 2024.

NOT THE ONE I REMEMBER

1960S

ok

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Apr 27 21:57:23 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 25 12:32:48 2024.

Rim shot!

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Apr 27 22:03:33 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Apr 26 02:20:45 2024.

They had plenty of farms, warehouses, and greenhouses when Israel withdrew in 2005 and left all the infrastructure. Gee, I wonder what happened to it all.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Apr 27 22:35:21 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 27 19:09:02 2024.



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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Apr 28 09:52:18 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 16:39:45 2024.

Jews have only been considered white since 1945.

I'm pretty sure like many faiths, Jews com in just about all races.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 11:24:06 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Apr 28 09:52:18 2024.

Jews come in one race, human.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 13:36:06 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Apr 27 22:03:33 2024.

The stuff from the Jewish settlers may have been more than enough for them, but for over 2 million Palestinians, likely not nearly enough. Though I agree the Palestinians kindly trashed what was left behind.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 28 14:06:42 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 13:36:06 2024.

Rubbish. Who do you think was feeding the 1.3 million "Palestinians" who were living in Gaza before 2005? The 9,000 Israelis who were evicted from their homes and businesses. Hamas trashed all of what was there and turned it towards their own uses, making the populace who voted for them into abject dependents.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 14:35:20 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 13:36:06 2024.

This is such bullshit, unless you believe Gaza ought to adopt North Korean-style autarky. Many countries are not self-sufficient when it comes to food and import their food. They know if they go to war they need to prepare accordingly, that Hamas didn't do so is on them.

If there were a Palestinian genocide, and there most certainly is not, then Hamas is solely responsible.

People who blame Israel for alleged Palestinian privation and death are no better than people who blamed the Allies for German and Japanese privation and death.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 15:38:01 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 19:08:44 2024.

That was a good read! But why are we even having these conversations in 2024? Most of us here would have not been considered "white" at one point or another, but now we are.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 18:31:34 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 15:38:01 2024.

It’s interesting how the different “races” came to be and how arbitrary they are.

Although there is some merit to the racial categories, they’re not perfect.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 19:53:19 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 13:36:06 2024.

"Kindly trashed"?
What the hell does that even mean?


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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 22:42:12 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 14:35:20 2024.

Well, then, the Israelis will have to make themselves clear. Are they only after Hamas, or are they trying to beat up all the Palestinians in Gaza? Because they're saying one thing but doing something else.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 23:08:28 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Sun Apr 28 22:42:12 2024.

They are saying one thing and doing the same thing. It’s anti-Israel propaganda that is lying about what Israel is doing.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 29 01:13:19 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 19:08:44 2024.


Breaking news, analysis, art, and culture from a progressive Jewish perspective …
That shows up on a Google search for that website.

And they're quoting Noel Ignatiev of all people, seriously?

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 29 01:13:39 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 28 15:38:01 2024.

No, it was a garbage read.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 29 01:18:37 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Avid Reader on Sun Apr 28 09:52:18 2024.

Jews are an ethnicity. Judaism is a religion.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 04:30:59 2024, in response to An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024.



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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 04:31:46 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 29 01:18:37 2024.

NO YOU ARE A RACE

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 10:23:07 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 29 01:13:39 2024.

To you, maybe, but you're insane.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 11:18:28 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 19:08:44 2024.

YOU ARE WHITE !!!

YOU ARE

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 11:26:28 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 11:18:28 2024.

Whatever you say.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 11:35:28 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 11:26:28 2024.

NO PIG

TELL THE TRUTH

THATS ALL

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 11:36:23 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 11:35:28 2024.

You first.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 11:43:14 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 23:08:28 2024.

Israel is killing a lot of Gazans who are not part of Hamas. You can say they have no choice, but it is a fact that they are doing so.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 11:43:24 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 28 23:08:28 2024.

Israel is killing a lot of Gazans who are not part of Hamas. You can say they have no choice, but it is a fact that they are doing so.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Apr 29 11:46:45 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 11:36:23 2024.

YOU

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 13:29:01 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 11:43:14 2024.

The US Army killed a lot of Germans who were not SS.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 29 15:25:21 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 11:43:14 2024.

And so another statement borne out of ignorance from alm

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 29 15:37:56 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 11:43:14 2024.

So?

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 15:40:07 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 13:29:01 2024.

As I said, you can say that they have no choice.


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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 29 16:17:34 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 13:29:01 2024.

The US Army didn't have precision and guided weapons in WWII.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 29 17:51:06 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 29 16:17:34 2024.

Astounding ignorance! The firebombing of Dresden and the nuking of Hiroshima were far more than the lack of precision guided weapons. They were meant to send dramatic messages to the civilian population and the waring governments that they support.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Apr 29 18:16:48 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Mon Apr 29 11:43:24 2024.

War is HELL!

Hamas opened the gates of HELL, and the innocent are getting burned.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 18:32:49 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 29 17:51:06 2024.

And in any case the US did have precision weapons.

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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Apr 29 18:50:56 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 29 18:32:49 2024.

Like what?

And besides, the Geneva Conventions regarding mistreating civilians came after WWII.

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