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An honest question: Why Gaza?
Posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024 So seeing these protests that are going on, there is something that keeps gnawing at me about those protesting the Gaza war: Many people bring up colonialism, settlements, and imperialism yet these same folks aren't enraged at Russia which is engaging in actual colonialism and expansion in Ukraine. They keep screaming about genocide while routinely ignoring actual cases of genocide happening now like Arabs killing Africans in Darfur, The Rohyinga in Myanmar or what the CCP is doing to Uyghrs in Xinjiang. We keep hearing about "innocent civilians" but innocent civilians keep being brutalized by cartels in places like Mexico and Ecuador. Why is Gaza the only place that warrants this kind of attention? Why is everything else being ignored? I just want someone who is sympathetic to these protests to explain that to me.
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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?
Posted by Train Dude* on Mon Apr 22 19:04:25 2024, in response to An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024.* You are skirting all around d the issue and I suspect that you know the answer. The single difference here is that it can be used as a catalyst for a resurgence of anti-Semitism.
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Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?
Posted by Peter Rosa* on Mon Apr 22 19:13:33 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 22 19:04:25 2024.* Gaza is one of the most inbred places in the world.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Mon Apr 22 19:41:28 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Apr 22 19:13:33 2024.* That the palestinians were previously thrown out of jordan might lead one to conclude that the Palestinians are also trouble makers.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Apr 22 19:47:59 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Apr 22 19:13:33 2024.* Huh? Gaza has 2 million people. How inbred can it be?
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Apr 22 20:01:53 2024, in response to An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024.* You aren't being clear. And "colonialism" is rhetoric that comes straight out of the USSR, to remind everyone.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Apr 22 20:07:08 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 22 20:01:53 2024.* No, you’re thinking of “decolonization.”
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 07:20:38 2024, in response to An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024.* Well, one is media attention. Gaza and the West Bank get a lot of it. The second is that the US and other Western European countries are directly supporting the forces doing the bombardment. That irks a lot of young people.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Apr 24 07:44:21 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 07:20:38 2024.* Because they’re idiots. In reality it’s because their Chinese propaganda app feeds them a lot of content that radicalizes them in this topic. Of course the Chinese propaganda isn’t going to condemn the actual genocide of Uyghurs.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Apr 24 13:42:19 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 24 07:44:21 2024.* Correct!^^^^^
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 14:02:44 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 24 07:44:21 2024.* It's not helping that there are plenty of Palestinians wailing how their families were killed, and that the Israelis are wrecking hospitals without a lot of evidence that it's justified.
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Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Wed Apr 24 14:08:51 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:02:44 2024.* Who the fuck says there's not a lot of evidence that it's justified? Of course it's justified when the terrorists are hiding in hospitals, storing missiles and other weapons in the hospitals, and Israel gives the Palestinians plenty of time to evacuate. As far as the Palestinians (which to me is everyone in the region including Jews) wailing about their familm members killed, IT'S ON HAMAS!!
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Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Apr 24 14:16:33 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:02:44 2024.* A ridiculous statement. It's been well documented that hamas builds headquarters and storage facilities beneath hospitals to invite their destruction. It's no secret that hamas deliberately places civilians in harms way and revels in civilian casualties for the propaganda opportunities that such casualties represent. On a personal note: FUCK THE POOR PALESTINIANS FOR ELECTING AND SUPPORTING HAMAS. FUCK CHUCK SCHUMER TOO!
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 14:24:37 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 24 14:08:51 2024.* But at the end of the day, the hospitals they attack are totalled, and nobody is either able or willing to step up to provide alternative medical services. That means reports of patients dying and a lot more ill will.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Apr 24 14:26:43 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:24:37 2024.* So?
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 14:28:42 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 24 14:26:43 2024.* ??? And that's why you get more and more protestors!
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Wed Apr 24 15:21:56 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 24 14:16:33 2024.* AND YOU CALL YOUR SELF GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE ?? JESUS ( YOU MURDER KILL HIM TOO ) SAID YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL !!!!! BIBLE LOOK IT UP DUDE
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Wed Apr 24 15:22:01 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 24 14:16:33 2024.* AND YOU CALL YOUR SELF GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE ?? JESUS ( YOU MURDER KILL HIM TOO ) SAID YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL !!!!! BIBLE LOOK IT UP DUDE
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Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Apr 24 15:41:16 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:28:42 2024.* Hamas refers to US protesters as "useful idiots" and they are. They are wasting 10s of thousand of dollars protesting rather than attending classes. They are making the tent manufacturers wealthy and turning the vast majority of Americans deaf and blind to their cause. Fuck them and fuck the palestinians.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Apr 24 15:44:09 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 24 15:21:56 2024.* No, I call myself by my given name. However, I do say Fuck the protesters, fuck hamas and fuck the palestinians.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Apr 24 15:46:25 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 24 15:21:56 2024.* No, I call myself by my given name. However, I do say Fuck the protesters, fuck hamas and fuck the palestinians.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Apr 24 18:02:24 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 24 14:08:51 2024.* Hamas can save the life of every Palestinian now alive by surrendering unconditionally.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Apr 24 18:04:01 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 24 15:41:16 2024.* These people are spoiled rich kids. People who actually need to go to college to someday make a living off their education can’t afford to waste their time and risk their education and scholarship on lefty cosplay.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Apr 24 18:21:27 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 24 15:41:16 2024.* "They are making the tent manufacturers wealthy..." What a coincidence that all those tents with similar colors showed up just about all at once. They're not cheap. This just gives fuel to the fire of speculation that there is significant outside agitators very much involved.
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 18:27:04 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 24 18:02:24 2024.* IAWTP
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Apr 24 18:45:43 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Apr 24 15:41:16 2024.* I agree!
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Apr 24 19:18:31 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 24 18:21:27 2024.* There’s no doubt.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Apr 24 19:24:46 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 24 19:18:31 2024.* True, there are organizers. But protestors can get tents for $15
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Apr 24 20:36:45 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 24 19:24:46 2024.* Where? How many Lowes, Home Depos, Dicks, Cabelas etc. are near Columbia University?? Besides, some of those tents look like they cost way more than $15.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Apr 24 20:47:08 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 24 20:36:45 2024.* What do you mean "where"? I posted a link.
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 20:56:09 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 24 20:36:45 2024.* The stores don't have to be near Columbia. They can go by bus or subway to a store, or buy them online ahead of time.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Apr 24 21:10:06 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 20:56:09 2024.* LOL!
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Apr 24 22:10:15 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 24 20:47:08 2024.* I'm talking about local retail & not "mail in" or on line which would take days to deliver. Those tents showed up there almost immediately.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Apr 24 22:16:17 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 20:56:09 2024.* Lug those cumbersome tents on a bus or subway?? I don't think so. If they bought them on line, they would have to be delivered to the campus to be set up so quickly. I can't see that either. I believe they were dropped off by non student outside troublemakers.
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Posted by 3-9* on Wed Apr 24 22:46:36 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 24 22:16:17 2024.* Dude, you have to expect the students to have planned this ahead of time. Those tents don't look that big, and collapsed, they should be pretty easy to carry onto the subway. If they ordered online, it's a simple matter to request 2- or 3-day shipment. It would also be a simple matter for the student organizers to look up the best and cheapest tents and recommend them to the others.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Apr 25 07:38:18 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 24 22:10:15 2024.* The tents that are being used are certainly not $15.
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Posted by Stephen Bauman* on Thu Apr 25 08:30:48 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 25 07:38:18 2024.* The tents that are being used are certainly not $15. What about a $23 tent from Walmart? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Waterproof-2-Person-Tent-Backpacking-Hiking-Camping-Tent-Sun-Shelter-Best-New/1447503125
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Posted by subfan* on Thu Apr 25 09:07:03 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:24:37 2024.* You lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. subfan
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Posted by Avid Reader* on Thu Apr 25 09:07:57 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 22:46:36 2024.* How fire resistant are the tents?
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Posted by Avid Reader* on Thu Apr 25 09:13:31 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 24 18:02:24 2024.* Hamas can save the life of every Palestinian now alive and the 10/07/2023 hostages by surrendering unconditionally. But Hamas knows many of the taken hostages are no longer alive.
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Thu Apr 25 09:47:20 2024, in response to An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024.* I ask this constantly. I'm surprised to see someone else post my same question quite frankly. I used the analogy to a Spanish person online once about Catalonia. It feel on such death ears that all they could do was explain that there's no such thing and it's actually just a province and that there's no there there. But Gaza is an issue to him. I feel it's hidden in that mindset. THat they don't see anything wrong with anything anywhere, but for Gaza....a racist beachside resort with no womens rights. That's one we all need to cry over.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Apr 25 12:06:12 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 25 08:30:48 2024.* How far is the nearest Walmart from Columbia U. Just wonderin
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Apr 25 12:11:42 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 25 12:06:12 2024.* PWNED!
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Posted by Mitch45* on Thu Apr 25 12:28:47 2024, in response to An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Apr 22 18:49:40 2024.* Simple and obvious. It’s because Jews are involved. This world has nearly 8 billion people. There are maybe 15 million Jews, and that includes everyone from the Lubavitcher Rebbe to Scarlett Johanssen to Pink. That means there are 7.985 billion people who are not Jews. People are persecuted, shot, beat up and jailed around the globe, day in and day out and people shrug their shoulders. Yet, if a Jew chews his food too loudly or picks his nose the world explodes
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Apr 25 12:32:48 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Apr 25 12:28:47 2024.* Excellent post. I look forward to reading it again soon.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Apr 25 14:25:00 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:24:37 2024.* False.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Apr 25 14:57:26 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 14:24:37 2024.* How many German hospitals were destroyed in 1945?
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Apr 25 16:34:51 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by 3-9 on Wed Apr 24 07:20:38 2024.* I want to add that you didn’t really answer the question, since the media could focus on any number of places but always puts the burden on Israel. My thinking is that it’s communism; the Soviet Union spread anti-Israel propaganda and the surviving leftist movements have internalized it. That and certain pseudo-Marxian philosophies that have historically infiltrated certain academic disciplines.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Apr 25 16:54:40 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Apr 25 08:30:48 2024.* With all due respect, what the fuck is your problem? How fucking stupid are you? Even if those are $23 walmart tents, which they are likely not, I SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT $15 TENTS. WHAT PART OF THAT DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
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Posted by 3-9* on Thu Apr 25 17:39:35 2024, in response to Re: An honest question: Why Gaza?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 25 12:06:12 2024.* rolls eyes Again, they can order this stuff online, several days in advance.
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