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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 21:52:55 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 20:11:50 2023.

Bomb threats already



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 22:11:45 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 21:52:55 2023.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bomb+threat+nyc&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

Should be at least one of your favorite sources where you won’t shoot the messenger.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 22:37:14 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 21 20:09:27 2023.

".does anyone in their right mind think they'd try to bring him in today?"

yeah...the NYPD

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 21 22:50:43 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 21 20:09:27 2023.

TDS at its finest.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 00:46:22 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:38:35 2023.

Certainly. Thr bogus threat of a bomb where no bomb exists was certainly equally damaging as when samantha shader tossed a molotov cocktail into an occupied police van.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 01:18:40 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 00:46:22 2023.

So I see your point that a bomb threat is completely harmless. That is what you’re saying right? Because if it’s one of yours it’s OK?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 22 01:25:52 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 01:18:40 2023.

it was probably a fake bomb threat, most likely perpetrated by a Trump hater, to give the impression his supporters are capable of such a thing.

Honestly, it's the Democrat, Antifa types who are far more capable of such destruction.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 02:03:43 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 22:37:14 2023.

False. They were preparing for riots, independent of any actual presence by Trump.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 02:04:12 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 21 20:47:18 2023.

OK.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 02:24:15 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 22 01:25:52 2023.

it was probably a fake bomb threat, most likely perpetrated by a Trump hater

Happens all the time. But reality deniers are going to deny reality.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 02:51:38 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 22 01:25:52 2023.

Lol aNtIFA 🤡
It must’ve been them. It’s always them in the right wing mind

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 22 03:18:07 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 02:51:38 2023.

the Left is very active in efforts to destroy civilization. Or trample the current system.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 03:32:36 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 22 03:18:07 2023.

Those are the usual excuses for oppression.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 04:27:38 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 03:32:36 2023.

Remember, there's no such thing as an egalitarian society. There's always going to be hierarchies. Someone has to be the oppressor,someone has to be oppressed, someone has to be in the middle of the two. To think any other way os foolish and would be the end of America and Western Civilization.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 08:22:48 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 02:51:38 2023.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 08:23:24 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 04:27:38 2023.

That’s fascist philosophy in a nutshell.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 08:25:19 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 08:23:24 2023.

Beat me to it. Constitution says otherwise

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 09:10:55 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 01:18:40 2023.

No. The bomb threat is a serious crime that is disruptive to the order of society but does not on the level of fire bombing an occupied ( or even an empty) police vehicle. If you don't see this then discussion is useless.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 09:37:45 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 01:18:40 2023.

It's a shame that you let your ideology shade your reality.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 09:49:10 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 09:10:55 2023.

I knew you would come around to acknowledging this but sat through the whataboutism for a couple of posts. 😅

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 14:49:15 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 09:37:45 2023.

They think exactly in the way O'Brien of 1984 wants them to think. As that character said, "Nothing exists except through human consciousness" (which is solipsism, but people are really living that way).

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 15:07:40 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 02:03:43 2023.

???
They were preparing for demonstrations BECAUSE of the possibility of Trump's appearance. No Trump, no need for all those cops and media trucks. They must have been on to something.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 15:56:18 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 15:07:40 2023.

What could they have been onto in terms of an actual rump presence? The grand jury hasn't even met since it interviewed a witness on Monday.

Even if they had met on Tuesday, there is no way any indictment would have been followed by an instant arraignment the same day.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 18:33:08 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 15:56:18 2023.

"What could they have been onto in terms of an actual rump presence?"

You would have to ask those who believed it enough to show up

"...there is no way any indictment would have been followed by an instant arraignment the same day."

And you know this how?


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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 18:34:37 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 18:33:08 2023.

WTF? He knows that because it does not work that way.

And they (the police) did not believe that he would show up. They believed that protestors would show up and there was potential for it to become violent a la 1/6.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 18:35:34 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 18:33:08 2023.

And you know this how?

Because there are a zillion things to negotiate.

Why are you so unwilling to believe that the only person who ever said that Trump would be arraigned on Tuesday was Trump?



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 18:37:59 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 18:34:37 2023.

Yeah, it's not as though Bragg would have sent a SWAT team to Mar-a-Lago to fight it out with Trump's bodyguards and bring him in on a chartered plane. :)



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 19:02:10 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 18:35:34 2023.

"Because there are a zillion things to negotiate."

That would have been expedited. This is not an ordinary Perp, this is an ex president. What I dont know is what the secret service role is here with Trump in (albeit temporary) custody.

"Why are you so unwilling to believe that the only person who ever said that Trump would be arraigned on Tuesday was Trump?"

You're missing my point. The whole world is aware that it was Trump who made the call that he would be arraigned Tuesday. The point is that no one came forward to say that it was BS, thus the police, media and protestors presence. If the police and media thought it was BS, there wouldn't be all that $$$ spent on police OT and all those satellite dish trucks would stay parked.
They could have had a cop outside with a bull horn saying to the protesters that showed up that Trump would be a no show.
BTW there wasn't that much of a protester presence. Maybe they were smarter than all the rest.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 19:14:16 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 18:35:34 2023.

Why are you so unwilling to believe that the only person who ever said that Trump would be arraigned on Tuesday was Trump?

Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge the truth and stick to repeating a debunked lie?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 19:15:27 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 19:02:10 2023.

The point is that no one came forward to say that it was BS, thus the police, media and protestors presence.

Who was there to come forward?

DAs never, ever put out a statement saying that they are not going to indict someone today.

I'm sure Bragg told NYPD that Trump wasn't going to be arraigned on Tuesday and, as others have said, the police were out in force just in case there were mass protests anyway.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 19:32:35 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 19:15:27 2023.

Exactly this.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 19:39:27 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 19:15:27 2023.

"DAs never, ever put out a statement saying that they are not going to indict someone today."

But this is not Joe Sixpack who just beat up his wife. This is an Ex President. The whole country is watching here in these unchartered waters. Exceptions can be made.
Besides, the Bragg "cold feet" factor cannot be ignored. Bragg not only is in the spotlight, he also is in the crosshairs. Theres enough republicans that will go thru his closet & I'm sure will come up with something if he goes thru with this.


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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 20:23:21 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 19:39:27 2023.

Exceptions can be made.

All the more reason not to make an exception. Plus, the security issues will cause everyone (Bragg, Secret Service, NYPD, hopefully Trump's lawyers) to say less rather than more.

Theres enough republicans that will go thru his closet

Don't hold your breath. Bragg's prior job was as a prosecutor reporting to Preet Bharara, who has never had a word of negative about him and who endorsed Bragg. Bragg may be a fool in many ways but there's a very good chance he's completely clean.




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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 20:38:19 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 22 19:39:27 2023.

“Joe Sixpack who just beat up his wife” aren’t arrested after a grand jury indictment. Big white collar criminals are and TFG isn’t the first one.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 21:36:53 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 08:25:19 2023.

The Constitution may say it, but Reality says otherwise.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 21:37:19 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 08:23:24 2023.

Have you ever seen an egalitarian society?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 21:58:27 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 21:37:19 2023.

Yes, America. Other first world countries.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 22:20:48 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 08:23:24 2023.

False. Fascism talks about equality, social justice and redistribution. Stop posting obvious lies.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 22:21:29 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 22 08:25:19 2023.

LOL @ you invoking the Constitution, especially not quoting it.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 22:24:37 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 04:27:38 2023.

Someone has to be the oppressor, someone has to be oppressed, someone has to be in the middle of the two

Wrong. The US Constitution is 100 percent against that. What you describe exists only in socialism (all forms) and feudal societies.

Don't hand the argument to the Marxists, who invented "class struggles" and "oppressor vs. oppressed" which implies no rule of law.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 22:30:51 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 22:20:48 2023.

Fuck off to a nuthouse where you belong.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 22:31:40 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 22:24:37 2023.

What a way to be right for all the wrong reasons, nut.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 22 22:36:57 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 22 04:27:38 2023.

Really?

I honestly don't need to ask where you learned that from.
You've made that pretty clear.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 22 22:39:15 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 22:30:51 2023.

Office open again?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 23 05:24:43 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 22 22:36:57 2023.

School.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 23 05:25:08 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 22 22:36:57 2023.

And my observations.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 23 05:26:45 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 22 21:58:27 2023.

They had structures as well. No one was equal, everyone had their place.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 23 05:27:39 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 22 22:24:37 2023.

I'm talking about real life, not a philosophy.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 23 11:59:25 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 22 02:03:43 2023.

False. They were preparing for riots, independent of any actual presence by Trump.

While they were preparing for riots, did crime go down in NYC?

You know, stabbings, subway crime, mob clean out of Drug stores, street assaults.

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Re: Trump calls for protests

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 27 17:32:51 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for protests, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 19 11:34:35 2023.

Yup. One particularly vile individual who I make no bones about disliking intensely. Not a symbol of a religion.

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