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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 20 21:45:00 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 20 17:24:58 2023.

Correct.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 20 22:11:41 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 20 19:49:12 2023.

Trump might. As much as he is hated, I can understand why.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 20 22:21:11 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 20 15:37:02 2023.

Trump told nobody to "fight"; please don't make things up. Bad enough the media made up the "fight like hell" hoax.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 03:41:37 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 19 17:53:23 2023.

As governor of Florida because that’s probably all he’s ever going to be

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Mar 21 04:12:39 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 20 17:24:58 2023.

Did I say a sponge? I would go even further and say even Nancy Pelosi is better than Joe!!!

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Re: Trump calls for protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 21 05:40:39 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for protests, posted by Allan on Sun Mar 19 19:50:25 2023.

If Trump supporters will gather there, there is a good chance that the Nazi Democrats will organize a violent counter protest.

It's their nature to be violent.

Hipsters from East Williamsburg are probably planning something.

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Re: Trump calls for protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 07:54:38 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 21 05:40:39 2023.

LOL!

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Re: Trump calls for protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 08:50:13 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 21 05:40:39 2023.

The real Nazis are staying home because they're convinced it's a setup to get them to act up like on Jan 6. 😂

When you've fallen so deep into the conspiracy hole you start to worry that the conspiracy might be a conspiracy 🤡

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Re: Trump calls for protests

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Mar 21 08:55:19 2023, in response to Trump calls for protests, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 19 04:10:29 2023.

I wish he gave the "order" when I was last in Portland. I could've worn my black uniform and joined the years of war that's been ravaging the place.



The only "protesters" hit seemed to all be holding camera's. How about that?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 13:10:51 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Mar 20 22:11:41 2023.

The more he is hated, the more security he deserves.

I just wasn't aware that he got sniper-on-rooftops level security.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 13:12:53 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 20 21:40:49 2023.

The suggestion has been made, including in prior court filings, that he falsified business records in such a way as to conceal taxable income.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 13:45:59 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 13:12:53 2023.

The other suggestion is that by the book, Trumps offense is a misdemeanor and Bragg is trying to turn it into a felony. Seems strange that Bragg takes most violent felony offenders in NYC and turns their crimes into misdemeanors.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 14:13:51 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 13:45:59 2023.

Bragg wants to feel big. Vance left him an investigation into Trump Organization finances which he abandoned. Meanwhile, there are real investigations into meaningful crimes by other prosecutors, but Bragg isn’t involved in those. This is a clown show. No, it’s not like getting Al Capone for tax evasion, it’s like getting him for a parking ticket.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 14:33:08 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 13:45:59 2023.

Not strange given Bragg's backing by Soros.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 14:45:44 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 14:33:08 2023.

SDS

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 15:18:01 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 14:13:51 2023.

Hiding 130K in taxable income is less than Al Capone but more than a parking ticket.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 15:23:11 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 15:18:01 2023.

It’s a matter of relative to the principal crimes committed.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Mar 21 15:24:29 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 15:18:01 2023.

A SEX BEEF ?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 21 15:35:36 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 14:45:44 2023.

I don't think Olog was a member of Students for a Democratic Society

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 16:07:41 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 15:23:11 2023.

I don't think that matters. If John Gotti got a parking ticket, it ought to be collected on. It just shouldn't be a big deal. And so far at least, Bragg isn't making it a big deal; only Trump is.




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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 16:08:24 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 21 15:35:36 2023.

But he sure is deranged!


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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 17:22:09 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 16:07:41 2023.

This would be the equivalent of a brownie giving a parking ticket to Gotti while the real police are surveilling him for actual crimes.

Bragg should let the big boys handle this one.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 21 17:43:39 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 17:22:09 2023.

I like that
Good one

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:01:42 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 14:13:51 2023.

Was Vance paid? Some say he’s received prior donations from attorneys for both Weinstein and Trump back in the early part of last decade.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/manhattan-da-office-probed-for-dropping-cases-after-lawyers-made-big-donations-report


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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 18:06:25 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:01:42 2023.

But here it wasn’t Vance who dropped it. ADAs who were on the Trump beat quit because reportedly Bragg was uninterested in pursuing. It looks like he was shamed into doing something after the AG’s case against the Trump Org.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:12:40 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 18:06:25 2023.

So what happened today? Looks like Bragg got cold feet & had second thoughts about being the poster boy for crazed, woke DA's

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:18:08 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 18:06:25 2023.

Maybe he’s just trolling. I mean all the splashing is coming from the Trump side. Plus a bomb threat today.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:18:30 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:18:08 2023.

There was a bomb threat against the courthouse today

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:20:09 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:12:40 2023.

Plus, Trump is the only one who’s announced it was happening Tuesday. Did the DA say that was gonna happen today?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:28:35 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:20:09 2023.

He didn't deny it either. Works both ways.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:32:06 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:28:35 2023.

Fallacy

He’s not obligated to deny anything.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 18:32:13 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:12:40 2023.

Looks like Bragg got cold feet

Bragg never said anything was going to happen today. Trump claimed it. Why on earth did you believe Trump?

It was never likely that Trump was going to be arraigned today. The grand jury still has a witness on Monday. So even if they indicted him today, they still have to arrange for him to come to NYC to be booked and arraigned.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 18:33:29 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:28:35 2023.

DAs never deny that they're going to issue an indictment, except occasionally to say that no charges will ever be filed against someone.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:47:41 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 18:32:13 2023.

"Why on earth did you believe Trump?"

Seems the NYPD believed him. It was an all hands on deck with as many "uniforms" present downtown as possible. They wouldnt have done all that and spent millions of $$$ in OT if this was not credible possibility.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 18:54:41 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:47:41 2023.

What’s a little OT to an organization who calls you soft on crime if you question where they spend their money?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 19:11:16 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:47:41 2023.

Maybe they feared violence even if no arrest occurred. I have no inside knowledge. And police departments have to err on the side of caution - it would have helped if the Capitol Police had heeded the scuttlebutt going around on January 5th, 2021.

But to attribute the lack of an arrest to Bragg getting cold feet is really insulting to Bragg. He deserves plenty of criticism, but not for that.



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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by bingbong on Tue Mar 21 20:09:27 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:12:40 2023.

The Grand Jury isn't finished with its work. This whole Tuesday thing was trump mouthing off.

And seeing the reaction….does anyone in their right mind think they'd try to bring him in today?


This is NOT how it's going to happen.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 20:11:50 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 19:11:16 2023.

They way the GOP is coming unglued it was a prudent call. Bomb threats already.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 21 20:47:18 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 13:10:51 2023.

That's SOP for every Active and former POTUS.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 21 20:48:22 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 16:07:41 2023.

It's TDS

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 21 21:04:03 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 21 18:28:35 2023.

Huh? He obviously would never confirm or deny anything. Routinely issuing denials rather than simply ignoring baseless claims means that you’re tacitly admitting whatever you don’t deny. This is an actual example of the axiom “the exception that proves the rule.”

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:09:14 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 20:11:50 2023.

You mean as opposed to burning court houses and police stations, right?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:27:14 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:09:14 2023.

Same thing

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 21:34:47 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 21 18:32:13 2023.

Bragg never said anything was going to happen today. Trump claimed it. Why on earth did you believe Trump?

That's not what Trump said. Why should anyone believe you? He said "illegal leaks" had "indicated" that.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:36:30 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:27:14 2023.

No its not. The threat was just that. Nothing but words. Cementing doors shut and then setting fire to a police station is a bit different

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:37:14 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 21:34:47 2023.

The 'illegal leaks' part was added later in the day.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:37:47 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 21 21:34:47 2023.

AlM & bingbong do not understand facts.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:38:11 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:37:14 2023.

What time?

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:38:35 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:36:30 2023.

Doesn't make a bomb threat any less an unglued reaction to supposed news of an indictment. Two things can be bad at the same time.

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Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 21 21:43:03 2023, in response to Re: Trump calls for peaceful protests, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 21 21:38:11 2023.

5 minutes after somebody told Trump that it sounded like he was served papers. Then "leaks" was added.

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