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The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007 Haha, well I couldn't drive by and not stop...and of course, it was hard not walking in thinking, "traitors"...but it's hard not to see why Dodgers left Brooklyn when you see the beautiful setting of the stadium...The When I drove by, I just had to stop and check it out... The place is vintage from when they left Brooklyn, probably never recieving an upgrade since they left, but it's in very nice shape. Here's some more photos I took that day: The field:   The Stadium:    Outside:   And of course, the "City of Angels" in the distance:  Yup, I have to admit it..... The Ole Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers have a nice home.... |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 8 20:54:29 2007, in response to The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007. Perhaps the only stadium built in the 1960's which is not an ugly piece of shit. Too bad you couldn't get a Dodger Dawg. |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Feb 8 21:52:28 2007, in response to The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007. I was there in 1993. Very nice place to watch a game. And clean corridors too. During a game the floors are clean enough to eat off of. I saw a game at Anaheim Stadium in 1996, before it got the rock garden in left field. It also looked as if it hadn't had an exterior uprgrade since it opened in 1966. It was immaculate.I guess it is possible to keep those 60's-era stadiums looking nice. |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 8 22:00:59 2007, in response to The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007. too bad this has been forgotten ........---------- http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/chavezravine/ -------------------------   In 1949, photographer Don Normark visited Chavez Ravine, a close-knit Mexican American village on a hill overlooking downtown Los Angeles. Enchanted, he stayed for a year and took hundreds of photographs documenting community life. But little did Normark know that he was capturing the last images of a place that was about to disappear—within a few short years, the entire neighborhood would be gone. CHAVEZ RAVINE: A Los Angeles Story tells the story of how this Mexican American community was destroyed by greed, political hypocrisy and good intentions gone awry. During the early 1950s, the city of Los Angeles forcefully evicted the 300 families of Chavez Ravine to make way for a low-income public housing project. The land was cleared and the homes, schools and the church were razed. But instead of building the promised housing, the city—in a move rife with political controversy—sold the land to Brooklyn Dodgers baseball owner Walter O’Malley, who built Dodger Stadium on the site. The residents of Chavez Ravine, who had been promised first pick of the apartments in the proposed housing project, were given no reimbursement for their destroyed property and forced to scramble for housing elsewhere. Fifty years later, filmmaker Jordan Mechner explores what happened, interviewing many of the former residents of Chavez Ravine as well as some of the officials who oversaw the destruction of the community. Narrated by Cheech Marin and scored by Ry Cooder and Lalo Guerrero, CHAVEZ RAVINE combines contemporary interviews with archival footage and Normark’s haunting black-and-white photographs to reclaim and celebrate a beloved community of the past. Launch photo album >> In 1949, photographer Don Normark captured the black-and-white photographs that would later be featured in CHAVEZ RAVINE: A Los Angeles Story, as well as in his book Chávez Ravine, 1949. Unknowingly at the time, Normark’s portraits of Chavez Ravine’s residents illustrated a community whose days were numbered. Within a few years, the close-knit village would disappear, replaced by a new Dodger Stadium. From children playing in the open hills to multi-generational families mingling with neighbors, Normark’s photographs illustrate daily life in a lost community. The Flash 6 plug-in is required to view this feature. Download Flash player plug-in. Music excerpt from the CHAVEZ RAVINE original score by Ry Cooder. Photos courtesy of Don Normark. -------------  Chávez Ravine A Los Angeles Story Don Normark's haunting photographs bring back to life a Mexican American village razed in the 1950s to build Dodger Stadium. 24 minutes DVD-R version available (Classroom Version available with bleeped track in a few places.) Color / Stereo Closed Captioned Grade Level: Grades 4 to 12, College, Adult US Release Date: 2005 Copyright Date: 2004 ISBN (VHS): 1-59458-245-9 ISBN (DVD): 1-59458-246-7 Directed by Jordan Mechner Produced by Jordan Mechner, Don Normark, Andrew B. Andersen, Mark Moran Photographs by Don Normark Music by Ry Cooder Narrated by Cheech Marin "Heartfelt... well-shot and sharply edited" Microcinema Scene CHAVEZ RAVINE tells the bittersweet story of how an American community was betrayed by greed, political hypocrisy, and good intentions gone astray. In 1949, photographer Don Normark stumbled on Chávez Ravine, a closely-knit Mexican-American village on a hill overlooking downtown Los Angeles. Enchanted, he stayed for a year and took hundreds of photographs, never knowing he was capturing on film the last images of a place that was about to disappear. The following year, the city of L.A. evicted the 300 families of Chávez Ravine to make way for a low-income public housing project. The land was cleared, homes, schools, and church razed to the ground. But the real estate lobby, sensing a great opportunity, accused the LA Housing Authority's Frank Wilkinson of being a communist agent. The city folded and instead of building the promised housing, it sold the land to baseball owner Walter O'Malley, who built Dodger Stadium on the site. Fifty years later, Normark's haunting black-and-white photographs reclaim and celebrate a lost village from a simpler time. DVD version: Chávez Ravine contains two versions of the film, the original version and a slightly expurgated version for classroom use, where a few swear words are bleeped out. The DVD version of this program is recorded on DVD-R which is not compatible with some older DVD players. See the new DVD page for more details. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Awards: Short-listed for Best Documentary Short, Academy Awards® National PBS Broadcast on "Independent Lens" Best Short Documentary, International Documentary Association Awards Gold Plaque, Chicago International Television Awards Grand Jury Award for Best Documentary Short, Florida Film Festival Unique Award, Society for Visual Anthropology Film & Video Festival Honorable Mention, Columbus International Film & Video Festival Award for Community History, Visual Anthropology Film Festival Margaret Mead Film Festival Full Frame Documentary Film Festival InFact Documentary Theatrical Showcase Tribeca Film Festival AFI Film Festival Kodak DocuFest IFP Market Hot Springs Documentary Film Festival Vermont International Film Festival United Nations Association Film Festival, Stanford Silver Lake Film Festival Artivist Film Festival Hazel Wolf Environmental Film Festival Roxbury Film Festival Fact vs. Fiction Film Festival Cine Las Americas, Austin National Association for Multicultural Education Conference Reviews: "Heartfelt... well-shot and sharply edited... it's Mechner's sense of people and place, more than moral outrage, that makes his work compelling. ***" MicrocinemaScene "This bittersweet tale recounts a lost village, Dodger Stadium, and the miraculous moment of time that lay between them." Florida Film Festival Program "Powerful and moving... a gripping revival of the forgotten history behind the land which today holds L.A. Dodger Stadium." The Daily Sundial, California State University "Using historic photographs of the families as well as contemporary interviews -- and with a surprising twist -- Mechner tells a cautionary story of community, deception, and loss." Full Frame Documentary Film Festival Program "Chavez Ravine is a unique and fascinating contribution to the unknown history of Latino people in California. It relates beautifully to every dislocated community; it connects in a surprising and important way to the McCarthy Era; it is composed of oral history and historic photographs, woven seamlessly with a beautiful score and narrative. I cannot recommend it highly enough to all teachers because it shows the relevance and power of history for all. My own students raved about it." Lauren Coodley, History Dept., Napa College, Author of Napa: the Transformation of an American Town and Land of Orange Groves and Jails: Upton Sinclair's California "Chavez Ravine is a poignant and painful look at race, politics, and displacement in Los Angeles. This documentary tells the story of Mexican communities that were removed first by City Hall and then, by the L.A. Dodgers. The film, though, also tells a story of memory and resistance as the publication of old photographs brings people together and in some ways keeps the communities of Chavez Ravine alive. This film would be ideal for courses dealing with communities of color, urban politics, race, and the politics of memory." Maria Elena Garcia, Asst. Prof. of Anthropology, Sarah Lawrence College "Chavez Ravine is an important work of historical recovery that visually retrieves a strand in the lost history of Los Angeles. It is a beautifully produced account of the human costs of urban displacement and of the complexities of urban politics." Michael Kowalewski, Carleton College "The villages are gone, they survive only in memory, and in this wonderful...film...Highly recommended." David Kidney, Greenman Review "A fascinating assembly of Normark's photographs of a community lost in time and mind...Highly recommended. Brad Eden, Ph.D. University of Nevada, Las Vegas for Educational Media Reviews Online "An eerie foreshadowing of today's 'eminent domain' debate about the use of private property for the public good...this revelation of a shameful episode in Los Angeles history is illustrated with the hauntingly evocative pictures of acclaimed photographer Don Normark...recommended." Video Librarian |
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Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:10:12 2007, in response to Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by MJF on Thu Feb 8 21:52:28 2007. I saw a game at Anaheim Stadium in 1996, before it got the rock garden in left field. It also looked as if it hadn't had an exterior uprgrade since it opened in 1966. It was immaculate.Yeah, the Anaheim Angels Stadium is beautiful too. The rock waterfall is something else. They had the whole field ripped up when I was there, as they were doing some kind of dirtbike or motorcycle thing inside when I was there. The outside looks redone too: Here's Angel Stadium in Anaheim:  What's nice, is it's right next to the Anaheim Metrolink/Amtrak Station:   Here's Amtrak coming through:   I guess it is possible to keep those 60's-era stadiums looking nice. It sure is! Dodger Stadium is beautiful! New York has such crappy stadiums. I went last week to see a Anaheim Ducks hockey game, and Arrowhead Pond-Honda Center is a masterpiece! It's pretty new granted, but it even has marble tile floors everywhere! It makes Madison Square Garden and nassau ZColesium look like, well a pile of shit. |
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Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Feb 8 22:20:00 2007, in response to Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:10:12 2007. Having a train station in the parking lot of the stadium is pretty cool. Maybe when more frequent Metrolink service starts next year (or is it the year after?) more people will use the train to get to the game.They're building a bunch of new condo's in that area. Not exactly a TOD's, but hopefully many of the people that move there are doing so to take advantage of the rail options. |
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Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 8 22:21:59 2007, in response to Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:10:12 2007. We're getting into SubChat territory now, but does the Anaheim station provide service that is usable to attend Angels' games (especially at night)? |
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Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Feb 8 22:32:43 2007, in response to Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 8 22:21:59 2007. Right now it's just Amtrak (Metrolink doesn't run at night), but that doesn't stop at all of the OC Metrolink stations. There are plans Orange County Measure M) to greatly expand Metrolink service. They want to operate trains every 30 minutes throughout the day. I would assume that they will also add some evening service. I think that they have already ordered the trains, but I'm not sure. They're supposed to start upgrading the schedule next year, but it will take a few years to reach the 30 minute service. |
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Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:47:25 2007, in response to Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by Easy on Thu Feb 8 22:20:00 2007. Yeah, there are condos going up everywhere on Katella and State College Blvd. There's some whole new project now with a fence around it, "Urban Living coming to Anaheim". What they have done so far is very nice.... |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:49:39 2007, in response to Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 8 22:00:59 2007. Bad politics of course...but the photos do look like it was almost like a shanty town. |
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Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 9 00:37:09 2007, in response to Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:10:12 2007. so thats what they did with the railroad tracks next to anahiem stadium !!nice idea now i wonder can you get rountrip service on only days or only night service ? this is how angels stadium once looked with the BIG ''A''' inside the stadium !!   next you should visit the colisuem and finally the rose bowl |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 9 00:39:51 2007, in response to Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 22:49:39 2007. not the whole townthose nice people did not deserve this just to build a sports stadium and there are much more photos of chavez ravine which was a nice beautiful place before the dodgers left the coliseum |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 9 02:34:51 2007, in response to The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007. That's not a beautiful setting. |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 9 08:47:58 2007, in response to Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 9 02:34:51 2007. In your opinion. |
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Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 9 08:52:30 2007, in response to Re: Anaheim Station/Anaheim Angels Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 9 00:37:09 2007. The big A is outside the stadium now, but still there. I didn't visit the coliseum....but saw the rose bowl driving by (didn't stop).I was in the Staples Center last time I was in the area though for an arena football game....also pretty impressive, and it had a blue line station near by: 
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by PATHman on Fri Feb 9 16:00:20 2007, in response to The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007. Nice setting and pics, but I still think it's wrong how they renounced Brooklyn. |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 9 16:42:54 2007, in response to Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by PATHman on Fri Feb 9 16:00:20 2007. Well it's 50 years ago, I don't think anyone involved is still there.... |
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Re: The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 9 16:47:26 2007, in response to The Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 8 19:21:41 2007. i saw the stadium when it first opened back in the 1960ssandy koufax vs willie mays usc baseball don drysdale maury wills tommy davis willie davis frank howard etc.. |
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