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Shooting LGBQ. Club

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:35:19 2022

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Re: Shooting LGBTQ club

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:37:13 2022, in response to Shooting LGBQ. Club, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:35:19 2022.

Title fixed…..

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Re: Shooting LGBTQ club

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Nov 21 21:47:04 2022, in response to Re: Shooting LGBTQ club, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:37:13 2022.

What happened to the

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??? Racist title.

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Re: Shooting LGBTQ club

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 22 02:13:23 2022, in response to Re: Shooting LGBTQ club, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:37:13 2022.

So now the other shoe has apparently dropped. The accused, 22 year old Anderson Aldrich may be the same Anderson Aldrich who last year was arrested for kidnapping and aggravated assault after an hours long standoff with police. He was never prosecuted because his mother wouldn't testify against him and he was never "red flagged" so he was allowed to get his weapons. Another case of democrat justice protecting society .


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Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 04:54:10 2022, in response to Shooting LGBQ. Club, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:35:19 2022.

CBS News

Colorado Springs LGBTQ club shooting suspect identifying as non-binary in court documents

The suspect in the shooting at Club Q, a Colorado Springs LGBTQ nightclub, is now identifying as non-binary, according to court filings filed Tuesday.

"Anderson Aldrich is non-binary. They use they/them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich," a footnote in a court filing reads.

Every subsequent mention of the suspect uses the prefix, "Mx," a prefix commonly used by transgender, gender-nonconforming and nonbinary in place of Mr., Mrs. and Ms. Documents filed Monday, however, refer to the suspect with he/him pronouns.

The suspect is being represented by the Public Defender's office.

The shooting occurred Saturday night into early Sunday morning, on the start of Transgender Remembrance Day, which honors transgender people who have been murdered.

The suspect is charged with five counts of murder and five counts of bias-motivated crimes.


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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 05:27:31 2022, in response to Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 04:54:10 2022.

So he identifies as decimal?

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 14:39:15 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 05:27:31 2022.

Hexadecimal.


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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 23 14:51:15 2022, in response to Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 04:54:10 2022.

A ploy by his "lawyer" to avoid facing bias charges

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 19:02:49 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 23 14:51:15 2022.

Maybe, or "they" could be for real.

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 19:07:49 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 19:02:49 2022.

The correct third person singular neuter in English is “it.” If you don’t like he or she, then you’re an it. The only people who are “they” are those with multiple personalities.

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 23 23:24:06 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 19:07:49 2022.

Correct. Another "inconvenient truth" that qualifies as a "hate fact"

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 23 23:34:08 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 19:07:49 2022.

It always confused me when they called her "they" or "them" on Billions.


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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 24 01:37:46 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 19:07:49 2022.

Possessives throw a bit of a money wrench into the works. I remember a third-grade teacher telling the class the following:

"Does everyone have their book?" is incorrect.

"Does everyone have his or her book?" is how you should say it.

This was decades ago. There was no only-two-genders agenda behind her instruction. She was simply correcting what she saw as a common careless error. You have to admit though that "their book" is a lazier, easier construction.

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 24 03:24:31 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—shooter identifies as “non-binary”, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Thu Nov 24 01:37:46 2022.

Or you could ask “do you all have your books?” The question with “everyone” sounds like a question one would ask of a third party who inspected the status of everyone’s books.

And of course, “you all” is only necessary because some fucking king or some other parasite decided that being referred to in the singular was beneath them so eventually “thou” became offensive.

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Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—FBI knew about shooter in 2021

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 9 16:36:17 2022, in response to Shooting LGBQ. Club, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 21 17:35:19 2022.

VSA Heute

Colorado Springs shooting suspect was on the FBI's radar a day before threatening family in 2021

The FBI was aware of the accused Colorado Springs LGBTQ bar shooter the day before the suspect was arrested for making bomb threats against family members in June 2021, authorities have confirmed.

The 22-year-old who was charged with 305 counts in connection with the Nov. 19 mass killing, Anderson Lee Aldrich, was previously arrested on June 18, 2021, after threatening to kill family members at their home.

But the FBI was aware of Aldrich at least the day prior, and closed out its case just weeks later, the agency told USA Today. The Associated Press first reported on the FBI disclosure.

"The FBI received information on June 17, 2021 concerning Anderson Aldrich. As part of the assessment, the FBI coordinated with the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, which arrested Aldrich on June 18, 2021. With state charges pending, the FBI closed its assessment on July 15, 2021," the FBI said in a statement.

Authorities have been criticized for failing to take more preventive measures before the Club Q shooting, such as confiscating weapons from Aldrich, arguing the previous threats were enough to warrant action.

Authorities responded to the family's home on June 18, 2021, after Aldrich, whose attorneys say is nonbinary and uses they/them/theirs pronouns, allegedly threatened their mother with a homemade bomb, forcing neighbors to evacuate amid crisis negotiations before surrendering. Aldrich was arrested for menacing and kidnapping, the AP reported.

Records from that arrest were sealed under a law meant to prevent unprosecuted arrests from ruining people's lives after prosecutors declined to pursue charges, but the AP reported it verified and viewed an arrest affidavit that included details foreshadowing Aldrich's future actions.

Media outlets, including USA Today, have asked for those records to be unsealed.

Aldrich's grandparents called 911 that day, saying their grandchild was building a bomb in their basement and had threatened them. According to the sealed records, the AP reported, Aldrich told their grandparents they were planning to "conduct a mass shooting and bombing."

There have been several high-profile examples of the FBI having received information about a gunman before a mass shooting. A month before Nikolas Cruz killed 17 people at a Florida high school, the bureau received a warning that he had been talking about committing a mass shooting.

A man who massacred 49 people at an Orlando nightclub in 2016 and another who set off bombs in the streets of New York City the same year had each been looked at by federal agents but officials later determined they did not warrant continued law enforcement scrutiny.

FBI guidelines meant to balance national security with civil liberties protections impose restrictions on the steps agents may take during the assessment phase. Agents, for instance, may analyze information from government databases and open-source internet searches, and can conduct interviews during an assessment. But they cannot turn to more intrusive techniques, such as requesting a wiretap or internet communications, without higher levels of approval and a more solid basis to suspect a crime.

More than 10,000 assessments are opened each year. Many are closed within days or weeks when the FBI concludes there’s no criminal or national security threat, or basis for continued scrutiny. The system is meant to ensure that a person who has not broken the law does not remain under perpetual scrutiny on a mere hunch — and that the FBI can reserve its resources for true threats.

Aldrich was charged Tuesday with 305 counts, including for murder and hate crimes, after allegedly entering Club Q in November with an AR-15-style long rifle, killing five and injuring 17 others before being subdued by bar patrons, including army veteran Richard Fierro, who has been credited with tackling, bludgeoning and holding the suspect while waiting for police.

"Richard Fierro said he was able to get the handgun away from the suspect and began striking him anywhere he could on the suspect’s body to get the suspect to stop fighting," an affidavit released Wednesday reads.

The five-page arrest affidavit was made public Wednesday after Judge Michael McHenry ordered it to be unsealed. The document is a different filing than that which was filed after Aldrich's previous arrest pertaining to his grandparent's concerns.

In the Wednesday filing, responding officer Detective J. Gasper described the bloody scene at the club after the arrest was made, adding there were "medical intervention debris, and clothing items scattered directly outside of the club."

Photos taken from stills from surveillance video attached to the document show Aldrich exiting an SUV and carrying a rifle, and firing initial shots upon first entering the club.

Aldrich's mother, Laura Voepel, told investigators she and Aldrich did not own any weapons apart form a pocket knife, according to the affidavit. She said she had plans to see a movie with her child that night, but Aldrich left, saying they were going to run an "errand" that "would only take 15 minutes," and didn't hear from Aldrich after that.


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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—FBI knew about shooter in 2021

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Dec 9 19:42:04 2022, in response to Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—FBI knew about shooter in 2021, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 9 16:36:17 2022.

We'll probably never know the true motive just as we still don't know the motive of what happened in Orlando.

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Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—FBI knew about shooter in 2021

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 9 20:17:59 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at LGBTQQIAAP club in Colorado Springs CO—FBI knew about shooter in 2021, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Dec 9 19:42:04 2022.

That's what the authorities always tell us.

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