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Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:09:04 2022, in response to Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:06:44 2022.* WHAT ?????
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:09:27 2022, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:07:40 2022.* WHAT ????????????????????????????????????
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Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:09:53 2022, in response to Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:09:35 2022.* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:10:15 2022, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:12:02 2022.* WHAT ???????????????????????????
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Re: MY NAME IS CHIEF ROLLING THUNDER !!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:11:07 2022, in response to Re: FUCK SALAAM ALLAH!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:14:53 2022.* SORRY SIR BUT I HAVE MORE CLASS THAN YOU FACT
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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:11:32 2022, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 03:37:05 2022.* ????????????????????????????????????????
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 07:11:56 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 03:41:40 2022. STOLEN LAND
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Re: FUCK SALAAM ALLAH!!!!-- MR DAVIS CUT IT OUT !!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 07:16:17 2022, in response to Re: FUCK SALAAM ALLAH!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:14:53 2022.* MR DAVIS CUT IT OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT YOU HAVE MORE CLASS THAN THIS SIR ??? I USED TO THINK SO
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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 11 07:20:54 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 03:41:40 2022. Yep.
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Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Avid Reader* on Tue Oct 11 08:32:05 2022, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.* Back in the day, when I worked I was a member of a union. Our contract called for paid days off for Federal Holidays. But, not not all holidays. Management felt that there were too many. So we had option to pick which ones we would work. One of my choices to work was MLK Day. Why, you ask. Because it was a winter holiday, I wanted warmer holidays. To work this day, most business were closed, ergo, nothing to do. It was a low traffic day, easy to get to and from the city. a faster commute for me.
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Posted by Avid Reader* on Tue Oct 11 10:39:02 2022, in response to HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Oct 11 13:34:06 2021.* This indigenous whining and false claims is all bullshit. Immigrants are just that and may go through 'Naturalization" but are still immigrants. First generation and following generations are now INDIGENOUS! PERIOD! If you don't believe me, ask the 14th amendment. Ask the anchor babies! When ancient men and women MIGRATED, their offspring were a new indigenous people in what was an occupied or unoccupied land. Some Immigrants were thwarted and stopped or pushed out. Some succeeded and assimilated.
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 10:47:33 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 07:11:56 2022. Redskins soldum land to paleface!
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Oct 11 10:48:16 2022, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 07:11:32 2022.* ???
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 10:53:44 2022, in response to Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 10:39:02 2022.* There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging history, and this works both ways. That’s why it’s COLUMBUS Day.
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Oct 11 11:52:58 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 10:47:33 2022. Hahahaahaha Like Manhattan for $24
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 12:23:39 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 10:47:33 2022. They were just passing through at the time! Tour of The Remnants of Dutch New Amsterdam Minuit (and his predecessor, Verhulst) was already authorized by the Dutch West India Company to settle any disputes with local Native American tribes over trading and land rights. Soon after his arrival, Minuit entered into a transaction with one or more local tribes over the rights to Manhattan. No original title deed remains, and the main documentary evidence is a Dutch West India Company internal communication from late 1626 that includes the following (translated): Yesterday the ship the Arms of Amsterdam arrived here. It sailed from New Netherland out of the River Mauritius on the 23d of September. They report that our people are in good spirit and live in peace. The women also have borne some children there. They have purchased the Island of Manhattes from the savages for the value of 60 guilders. It is 11,000 morgens in size. Minuit’s Partner: Ellis says Minuit met with “the principal chiefs of nearby tribes.” Gotham argues that it is impossible to say which of the local Lenape tribes Minuit met with. Historian Nathaniel Benchley seems more confident that Minuit was dealing with the Canarsees, a Lenape tribe principally located in south Brooklyn, led by Chief Seyseys. The Canarsees were happy to take whatever the Dutch were offering, Benchley claims, given that the Weckquaesgeeks, a closely related Wappinger tribe, actually occupied most of mid and northern Manhattan Island. Benchley’s theory is one explanation for the Native Americans in question accepted such a low price, and of course turns the whole notion of Europeans exploiting Native Americans on its head. Given the bloody skirmishes fought between Wappinger tribes and New Netherland settlers during the early 1640s (“Kieft’s War”), it’s obvious that not all Native Americans respected whatever deed was signed in 1626. Before Kieft’s War began, these tribes were living comfortably in the outskirts of New Amsterdam, still a tiny settlement with only a few farms north of Wall Street. Lastly, there is a possibility that whoever signed the deal had a sense of the Europeans’ power, and agreed to such a deal out of fear or strategic alliance. We haven’t found any scholarly work pushing this theory, but I’m sure it’s out there, and we’ll adopt it for now. Conclusion: We don’t really know who signed the deal, but it could have been the Canarsees, who didn’t have much of a footprint in Manhattan, rather than the Weckquaesgeeks, who lived north of the Dutch on the island. The Cost: “Sixty guilders” is one of the few hard facts we have to work with. Many a blog post has been spent constructing how much that is worth today. The “$24” figure was first advanced by a historian in 1846. Since then, valuations are all over the map, getting as high as $15,000. To me, this is moot, since we can be pretty sure what the recipient tribes actually received, and it wasn’t an appreciating trust fund. In 1630, the Dutch purchased Staten Island, also for 60 guilders value. A copy of the deed explained that the supplies offered to local chiefs in exchange for unfettered right to the land included kettles, axes, hoes, Jew’s harps (an old instrument), anddrilling awls, the last of which were essential for ramping up the manufacturing of wampum, the shell-beads that made up the local currency.
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 12:27:04 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 12:23:39 2022. Thanks for that. So the Indians scammed the Dutch.
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 12:32:21 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 12:27:04 2022. So much for "honest injuns"!
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 12:33:12 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 12:27:04 2022. I believe that both parties thought they had the better of the deal.
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 12:36:49 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 12:33:12 2022. At the time they didn't "TITLE BLOCK" .
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 11 13:08:53 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Oct 11 12:33:12 2022. Speaking about deals, in Soth Dakota there is the monument to Crazy Horse. In the associated museum there are the actual beads for which NY City was purchased. A bad deal is still a deal. They got fucked but they were not cheated.
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 13:23:09 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 11 13:08:53 2022. UGH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHITE MAN SPEAKS WITH FORKY TONGUE
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 13:39:28 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 13:23:09 2022. What about a spooned tongue?
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Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 13:57:47 2022, in response to Re: Who's stolen land are you living on? Re: (List) Re: HAPPY COLUMBUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 11 13:39:28 2022. WTF
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Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF !!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 15:39:52 2022, in response to Re: FUCK SALAAM ALLAH!!!!!!!!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 03:14:53 2022.* MR DAVIS CUT IT OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT YOU HAVE MORE CLASS THAN THIS SIR ??? I USED TO THINK SO
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 15:54:52 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Oct 10 22:16:44 2022.* This is nothing but dead-white-male-bashing from a PC thug.
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 16:03:29 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 15:54:52 2022.* YOU STOLE OUR LAND YOU CAME HERE TO STEAL OUR LAND
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 16:12:19 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 16:03:29 2022.* I didn’t steal shit. My ancestors have been here less than you have been.
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 16:35:37 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 16:12:19 2022.* BULLSHIT
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 16:42:38 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 16:35:37 2022.* You posted your birthday on this board. Not one of my ancestors lived in North America or had ever set foot in it when you were born and for over 20 years after.
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 16:46:37 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 16:42:38 2022.* OK DID YOU BENEFIT FROM AMERICA ???? AND AT WHOS EXPENSE WHO BUILT IT WHO WAS ROBBED OF SELF
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Tue Oct 11 16:58:49 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 16:03:29 2022.* Its called history. Its ours now. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Tue Oct 11 17:01:30 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 15:54:52 2022.* This anticromulantism embiggens no one.
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 17:01:43 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 11 16:58:49 2022.* YOU STOLE IT BUT YOU ARE LOSING IT
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Tue Oct 11 17:02:34 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 17:01:43 2022.* We'll see.
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 17:07:10 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 11 17:02:34 2022.* MY NAME IS CHIEF ROLLING THUNDER
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 17:37:51 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 11 16:58:49 2022.* IAWTP. And it was our human capital that built it. Yeah, it sucks that some people died, but they would have died anyway, and they would not have reached the same level of development.
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Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Oct 11 17:38:20 2022, in response to Re: FUCK COLUMBUS DAY !!!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 17:07:10 2022.* Rolling Rock is better, it's a good beer to bring camping!
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Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS
Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:44:54 2022, in response to Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF !!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 15:39:52 2022. Happy belated Columbus Day. He brought class to the New World.
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Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Tue Oct 11 17:46:55 2022, in response to Re: MY NAME IS CHIEF ROLLING THUNDER !!!!!!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 07:11:07 2022.* Anyone who doesn't honor Columbus Day hates America.
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Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 17:47:13 2022, in response to Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:44:54 2022.* No, he didn’t. George Washington did. Fuck Queen Isabella and all her loyal servants.
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Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Tue Oct 11 17:47:49 2022, in response to Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 17:47:13 2022.* Lol
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Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 17:47:51 2022, in response to Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:46:55 2022.* BEGINNING OF MURDER RAPE DEATH FOR MY PEOPLE HOW DO YOU LOVE THAT
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 17:48:23 2022, in response to Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:46:55 2022.* BULLSHIT!
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Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Tue Oct 11 17:48:25 2022, in response to Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Oct 11 17:47:51 2022.* Indians murdered each other.
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Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Oct 11 17:48:45 2022, in response to Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:47:49 2022.* Do you disagree?
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Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF !!
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 17:48:48 2022, in response to Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:44:54 2022.* TITLE CORRECTED THOUGHT YOU WERE BETTER THAN THIS I GUESS I WAS WRONG
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Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Tue Oct 11 17:48:49 2022, in response to Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 17:48:23 2022.* Why?
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Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 17:49:10 2022, in response to Re: MY NAME IS ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 11 17:48:25 2022.* NO WHITE MAN
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Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Oct 11 17:49:23 2022, in response to Re: CHICAGOMOTORMAN HAS CLASS, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 11 17:48:45 2022.* FIGURES
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