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Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:39:20 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 25 21:31:28 2022. BTW where did you get the idea that Greenland will "Melt out" on 30 yrs?I didn't say that. But if we don't become carbon neutral within 30 years, Greenland probably will melt out. Not in our lifetimes, of course. Mankind probably has to become CO2 negative (trees suck up more CO2 than we produce) for a long period of time to keep Greenland from melting. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:42:25 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 07:39:03 2022. You responded toYou are being far too kind to Al. He's a known fabricator of lies. with And here it is very obvious |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:44:40 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:37:41 2022. ???What's your point? That instead of "the battery is almost dead" the phrase should be "the batteries are almost depleted"? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:46:22 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:40:17 2022. Except it was presented as fact |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:47:25 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 25 21:41:51 2022. And if you also don't go on trips to those areas, then of course my examples don't apply. Surely that was obvious.And "not 24 hours" may mean a gas station not opening until 7 AM or 8 AM. It doesn't have to mean middle of the night. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:48:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:46:22 2022. Yes it was presented as fact. Do you never make mistakes? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:48:13 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:36:11 2022. Except that's not the way it was originally presented. Your backpedaling |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:49:11 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:42:25 2022. Well when you present something that's not true as a fact then it is technically a lie, weather intentional or not |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:49:27 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:44:40 2022. Huh? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:50:49 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 02:02:50 2022. Ever get a broken nozzle that doesn't stop pumping at the right level and the gas comes out anyway?Ugh, yes, that happened to me once. I told the station owner that his nozzle was malfunctioning and he told me I should have heard the tank getting close to full. He was right, but it wasn't a good excuse for not wanting to fix his broken device. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:51:37 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 02:02:50 2022. Can't say that's ever happened to me |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:52:18 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:48:09 2022. Except you do it all the time to push whatever it is you are pushing |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:53:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:47:25 2022. You make adjustments based on where you are going. That suesbt make it what is typical |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:53:34 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:48:13 2022. Except that's not the way it was originally presented.Huh? Post: "it's not like gas stations are scarce" Response: True. But: - They aren't all open 24 hours. - In rural areas they aren't that dense. - You could have a traffic jam just when you're low. - Just when you're low you realize you're late to where you need to get. All sorts of reasons not to get too low. Not that the first word of my response was True |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:54:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:52:18 2022. So do you.And I admit my errors. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:54:57 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:53:09 2022. No, I already referred to early morning and not middle of the might far earlier in the thread. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:56:36 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:49:11 2022. First you say you never claimed I lied, then when caught out you do ridiculous backpedalling. That's not the definition of a lie. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 09:01:05 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:54:09 2022. What am I pushing? I wasn't the one making claims |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 09:03:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:56:36 2022. I didn't claim it was a lie, I responded to a post that said so, with "it's quite obvious". And it was obviously not true. If saying something is not true is claiming it's a lie, so be it |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 09:45:11 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:50:49 2022. He was wrong. No one is expected to be listening to the gas flowing into the tank especially if theres passing traffic making it impossible to hear.Assuming he knew about the bad nozzle, he should have had that pump out of service in the first place. That happened to my daughter once, The nozzle wouldnt shut off & gas spilled. The mgr wanted her to clean up the spill. She said in as many words, I dont think so & after paying, drove off. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:29:15 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:34:02 2022. I actually go through the trouble of unplugging the cable from the wall and putting the cable away in the trunk, because I’m paranoid that way. If I had a garage I would leave it.If you want to estimate the time, add the time it takes for you to put a couple of grocery bags in the trunk if there wasn’t a concern about them sliding around, with the time it takes for you to unplug an extension cord at both ends. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:30:47 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:36:11 2022. I know that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:33:34 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:39:20 2022. We may also need artificial methods of extracting CO2 from the atmosphere. We have this but I don’t know if it can be done at scale. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:35:21 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:49:11 2022. It’s absolutely not a lie if it’s not intentional. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:44:18 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:44:40 2022. I talked about the dread of seeing the gas light which implied the need to find a gas station. A red battery indicator isn’t the same because either it never gets that far, or if it does and I’m on my way home anyway, it doesn’t matter. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:46:00 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu May 26 08:53:09 2022. Which is also how it works with EVs. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 26 12:14:42 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Wed May 25 20:21:30 2022. Next 30 years? Great. What are we supposed to do today? Stay home because we can’t afford gas to go to the supermarket? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 12:25:09 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 26 12:14:42 2022. Plenty of people can afford an electric car. Start with them.There’s really little reason to keep selling ICE luxury cars. Start with that. Eventually a used market will develop and more manufacturing of EVs will lead to prices going down allowing new, more affordable EVs. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 12:35:48 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:29:15 2022. OK, sounds like 2 minutes or so.Thanks. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 12:36:48 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 10:33:34 2022. Trees are probably cheaper. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 12:39:44 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 12:35:48 2022. I think less than a minute. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 12:40:22 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 26 12:14:42 2022. Stay home because we can’t afford gas to go to the supermarket?People who can't afford the gas to go a few miles to the supermarket have far worse financial issues as well. Whenever Democrats try to address those issues of severe poverty, Republicans shoot them down. Better Medicaid coverage would be far more beneficial to such people than a $2 reduction in the price of gas. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 12:56:14 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 12:40:22 2022. "Whenever Democrats try to address those issues of severe poverty, Republicans shoot them down.Example? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 12:59:33 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 26 02:06:10 2022. I'm speaking about an all (mostly) EV auto fleet in the USAs future.Can you get an EV with a stick shift? I don't think so |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 13:00:26 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 12:56:14 2022. 12 years of attempted Obamacare fixes. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 13:00:39 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:35:54 2022. You ever drive a stick shift car? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 13:01:37 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 12:59:33 2022. Can you get an EV with a stick shift?Someone will make a model with one. Just to make people feel like they are shifting. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:02:04 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 12:59:33 2022. What would you shift in an EV?If you want to install a pretend stick shift in an EV, go ahead. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 13:03:51 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 08:39:20 2022. From your post"...if Greenland melts out." What exactly did you mean by that? Sounds like another backpedal |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 13:07:56 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:02:04 2022. You miss my point. Its the actual feel of control and the fun you get from driving a stick.Its more than getting from point A to B. Its the enjoyment of the driving experience you get from a stick shift car. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:42:23 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 13:00:39 2022. No, and at this point I never will. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:43:14 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 13:03:51 2022. He didn’t say it’ll melt out in 30 years. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:44:42 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 13:07:56 2022. That’s only because you’re comparing it to a slushbox. You have much better control over an electric motor where the speed of the motor controlled through the gas pedal is direct. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 17:51:59 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: It’s part of the transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:44:42 2022. Whats a slushbox? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:04:55 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 13:00:26 2022. I dont have a list in front of me of all the "attempted Obamacare fixes"Besides, That has zero to do with the discussion at hand, as in the price of gas. Its not just the cost of driving to the supermarket, its the cost of driving to and from work that the working class is taking a big hit from. They are taking a DeFacto pay cut inasmuch costing more to top off the tank and costing more to buy goods that are brought in by expensive diesel fueled trucks. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:10:22 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 13:42:23 2022. Dont knock it until you try it. Explaining the feeling of the power and control over a vehicle, racing thru the gears to a never stick driver is like trying to tell a stranger about rock and roll! |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 26 18:12:48 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:10:22 2022. 99% of the time driving a stick is a PITA because that's how much time you spend driving "normally". |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 18:17:57 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:04:55 2022. I specifically addressed a post that claimed that driving to the supermarket was unaffordable.I pointed out that those who can't afford the gas to drive to the supermarket have many other much more serious financial problems as well. One of those much more serious financial problems is medical care. You are free to ignore my comments, but they are relevant to the post I responded to. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 26 18:19:32 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 26 18:10:22 2022. I drove manual transmissions a bit when I was younger. I could do it but I never really enjoyed it. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu May 26 18:24:46 2022, in response to Re: Biden on High Gas Prices: it's part of the: transition we are in, posted by AlM on Thu May 26 18:19:32 2022. I learned to drive using a stick, but only ever bought one car with a stick and I regretted that. You end up shifting all the time. Even on the freeway since I drove mostly during rush hour. |
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