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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 8 08:12:09 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Fred G on Tue Dec 7 20:49:52 2021.

Or possibly those particular people just never paid attention to foreign news.

Many Americans who are 70 now will remember exactly who Churchill was and why he was important. Others will have no idea.

(Supporting anecdote: playing a guessing-type game around 1965 with a friend and his brothers, who were slightly older, born in the 1940s. One kid picked Winston Churchill as the name to be guessed; another had no idea who Churchill was except that he was the guy with the cigar.)



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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 8 08:14:30 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 8 08:05:44 2021.

I know people who don't know which war the raising of the flag on Mt. Suribachi took place in

Neither do I, without looking it up. Of course I do know Iwo Jima and do know the picture of the raising of the flag. Just didn't know the name of the mountain.





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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 8 08:39:14 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 8 08:14:30 2021.

Even if I didn’t know the name of the mountain, “Suribachi” sounds Japanese to me, not Korean.

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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 8 09:05:02 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 8 08:39:14 2021.

Agreed. I guessed it was Iwo Jima before looking it up. It's also the only famous raising of a flag on top of a mountain in wartime that I know of.





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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 8 09:26:07 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Dec 8 00:43:03 2021.

While we are at it, what never gets a mention is the British atrocities against the Irish in Ireland, especially during the potato famine when the potato crop failed & the few potatoes that grew were sent back to Britian, leaving thousands to literally starve to death in the streets. In addition, Any Irish Catholics that didn't support the Protestant British gov't had their farms destroyed & occupants murdered, left to rot in their fields. That led to the mass migration to the United States in the mid 1800's which brought my family here.


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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 8 09:56:26 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 8 09:26:07 2021.

That story is overblown, with sectarian agitators on both sides being the most to blame and no starvation resulting from potato export. And it didn't happen 80 years ago. Not to mention, the problem of starvation preceded the potato blight; also, the blight devastated crops elsewhere in Europe, particularly Belgium.

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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Dec 8 10:30:10 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 8 09:26:07 2021.

A young Irish wife watching her husband on a prison ship to Australia for stealing food to feed his family during the potato famine:



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Re: Eighty Years Ago Today

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 8 11:57:38 2021, in response to Re: Eighty Years Ago Today, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Dec 8 00:43:03 2021.

And the Holomodor as well.

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