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New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 12:55:42 2021


Voting


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Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 7 12:58:17 2021, in response to New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 12:55:42 2021.

Super!😀

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Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 7 13:04:33 2021, in response to New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 12:55:42 2021.

I expect it would make the Democratic primary electorate slightly more conservative. Somehow I don't think that Maya Wiley was the most favored candidate of resident aliens in 2021. I thnk Kathryn Garcia and Andrew Yang might have benefited most.





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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Dec 7 13:13:06 2021, in response to New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 12:55:42 2021.

Poised
Absolute gold!

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Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 13:36:02 2021, in response to New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 12:55:42 2021.

I thought it was against the law?

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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Dec 7 13:44:06 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 13:36:02 2021.

It is clearly against the law for many types of elections, but allowing legal non citizens to vote in local elections can be legal if laws allow it. This is about changing local laws to allow it. Whether the City Council has the authority to pass such a law, as opposed to a Charter Amendment voted on by the electorate will certainly end up in court.

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Posted by Allan on Tue Dec 7 15:18:15 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by pragmatist on Tue Dec 7 13:44:06 2021.

There are Republican lawmakers in NY who do plan to challenge this law if passed.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 7 15:23:49 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Allan on Tue Dec 7 15:18:15 2021.

It should be opposed by many Democrats too. It's a disgrace.
F'in Democrats.

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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 15:24:59 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 13:36:02 2021.

only against law to vote in federal elections for legal aliens .


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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 15:26:32 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 7 15:23:49 2021.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20federal%20law%20does%20not,outlaw%20noncitizen%20voting%20in%201926.


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Posted by Allan on Tue Dec 7 15:31:02 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 15:26:32 2021.

OK so is a precedent but it doesn't necessarily have to happen in NYC.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 15:34:37 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Allan on Tue Dec 7 15:18:15 2021.

Good! I hope they win.

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 15:40:36 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by pragmatist on Tue Dec 7 13:44:06 2021.

Well it should be against the law.

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 15:40:49 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 15:24:59 2021.

Well it should be against the law.

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 15:41:11 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Allan on Tue Dec 7 15:18:15 2021.

Good.

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 15:42:28 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 7 15:23:49 2021.

iawtlp

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 15:50:13 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Allan on Tue Dec 7 15:18:15 2021.

Good! I hope they win.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 15:50:49 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 7 15:23:49 2021.

It’s hardly a disgrace.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 15:51:22 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 15:40:49 2021.

IAWTP

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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 7 16:08:13 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Dec 7 15:23:49 2021.

Do you also think it's a disgrace when people propose that only parents should have a voice in how a school district is run, as has been posted by some people here?



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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 16:08:37 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 15:40:49 2021.

then it should be against law for them to pay taxes.


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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 16:47:22 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 16:08:37 2021.

No, it shouldn’t. If they want to vote they should apply for citizenship.

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 7 17:04:51 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 16:47:22 2021.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 17:06:00 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 16:47:22 2021.

not everyone is willing to give up their citizenship, I know many Americans living abroad that never will give up theirs .


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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 17:07:02 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 17:06:00 2021.

Then they can vote in their home country.

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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Dec 7 17:10:42 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 17:07:02 2021.

It is not so simple, since for legal immigrants this has often become their home country, and it can take years to achieve citizenship, while they may be working and paying taxes including serving in the military, contributing more than many who happen to be born here.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 17:13:17 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by pragmatist on Tue Dec 7 17:10:42 2021.

Five years is a reasonable waiting period. The waiting period for people who served in the military is shorter.

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Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 20:26:51 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Dec 7 16:08:37 2021.

What leads you to think they're paying taxes?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 20:32:47 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 20:26:51 2021.

This isn’t for illegal aliens.

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Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 7 21:49:02 2021, in response to Re: New York City poised to give voting rights to noncitizens, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 7 20:32:47 2021.

True, my bad.

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