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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 10:27:17 2021 The two terrorist lawyers who firebombed a NYC police vehicle are allowed to plead guilty to possession after of a destructive device. No arson. No terrorism. No attempted murder. Just possession. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 21 10:31:30 2021, in response to What Bullshit, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 10:27:17 2021. Outrageous.Scary too. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 10:42:53 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 21 10:31:30 2021. Actually, it's making & possessing, with a possible 10 year sentence... lets see what the actual sentence is, since a guilty plea to a single charge is pretty typical. Attempted murder would probably be a real stretch since the vehicle was empty. .Not sure why this was done in the Federal courts as opposed to NYS. Clearly a long sentence and the virtually guaranteed disbarment are called for. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 10:45:34 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 10:42:53 2021. Did they know or care that the vehicle was unoccupied? The other fire bomber threw her device into an occupied police van but it failed to ignite. Does she get her participation medal as well? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 10:54:59 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 10:45:34 2021. What we think and what can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court are 2 very different things. Hopefully, the sentencing will be significant. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Oct 21 11:04:04 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 10:42:53 2021. It was a federal case because the DOJ argued that the NYPD van was purchased using federal funds, making it an interstate commerce issue. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 11:06:03 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Oct 21 11:04:04 2021. Seems flimsy to me. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Oct 21 11:12:06 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 11:06:03 2021. They did it anyway, and made it stick. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 11:26:12 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Oct 21 11:12:06 2021. They probably could have jurisdiction on the explosives charges regardless. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 21 13:42:28 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 10:54:59 2021. What we think and what can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court are 2 very different thingsDissembling. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 14:00:11 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 21 13:42:28 2021. no, a simple statement of fact - it is very common for people to have a very good idea of what happened, but don't have the evidence to prove it... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 14:13:03 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by pragmatist on Thu Oct 21 14:00:11 2021. He’s a fascist, so no wonder he’d be opposed to due process. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 14:45:31 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 14:13:03 2021. You've shown yourself opposed to due process where a past president is concerned. You frequently proclaim him guilty before there has been a charge. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 14:56:56 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 14:45:31 2021. You have no idea what you’re talking about. I’ve never indicated that I don’t want the traitor to be duly convicted of the crimes that he’s actually committed. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Oct 21 15:14:07 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 14:56:56 2021. Individual-1 has much to be held accountable for, too. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 21 15:40:16 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Oct 21 15:14:07 2021. 🤔🤔 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 21 18:07:19 2021, in response to Re: What Bullshit, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 21 14:56:56 2021. What crimes has he actually committed? Where are the charges? |
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