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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:26:07 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 3 20:36:08 2021. Oh please.It is for the unvaccinated. And THAT IS THEIR IWN choice and risk. Leave the rest of us alone, and F the mask. Don't punish those that got the vax because of those that did not. At this point it's not like last year, we are informed |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:27:24 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 3 22:07:00 2021. You are correct it's an .OO fraction of 1% |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:28:48 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Aug 3 22:12:21 2021. I agree with you. This is ridiculous, and is NOT based on "science". The democrats said "follow the science" last year, but now they are doing the opposite |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:29:15 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Aug 3 23:38:17 2021. Oh please. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:29:39 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 4 08:07:07 2021. Post of the year!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:31:47 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 08:59:48 2021. I'll take my chances.You are free to wear a mask. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 4 12:37:01 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:29:39 2021. Thanks! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:38:14 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 10:07:51 2021. You never will. And especially with world travel.As for NYC. I'm actually not upset with it. I rather go maskless and have to deal with proof of vax, than mask requirement. That said, if they do this, they need a real vax card, that fits in your wallet or can show on your phone |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:38:31 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:26:07 2021. Don't punish those that got the vax because of those that did not.I agree with that 100%. Cars cause lots of deaths and I don't object to people driving cars. All I'm saying is that people who are responsible enough to be vaccinated should take what they think is reasonable care to not do harm to others, like their children or their elderly parents. Fortunately, those who are vaccinated are pretty much responsible enough to figure out what that means on their own. However, I also think that business owners have the right to keep their employees and customers safe. So if a business owner says wear a mask on my property or I will consider you a trespasser, that's their right. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:40:48 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 10:07:51 2021. But as a side note... How is this not "racist"....remember how "racist" voting laws requiring ID are. It seems easier to show an id of who you are to vote, than it is to sho vax status |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:41:02 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:31:47 2021. And you are pretty much free to not wear a mask anywhere except where the property owner requires a mask as a condition of entry. Maybe not in the entire country but certainly in New York State. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:42:57 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:38:14 2021. They already have that. It’s called the Excelsior Pass. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:44:04 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:40:48 2021. Huh?I got my vaccination card when I got vaccinated. I had to jump through a lot more hoops to get my driver's license renewed (and most of those hoops also exist for a non-driver ID). |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:44:52 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:38:14 2021. ???I have a real vax card. You didn't get one? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:45:10 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:41:02 2021. How NYC centric of you |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:45:10 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:41:02 2021. How NYC centric of you |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:47:07 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:44:52 2021. Yes, I did. It doesn't fit in my wallet, it's not a normal card. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:50:20 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:42:57 2021. Hmm, I just googled that...thank you! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:53:25 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:44:04 2021. Exactly. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:56:45 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:40:48 2021. See AlM’s response, but the difference isn’t that it’s easier or harder for some people to get vaxxed, but that voter ID is a solution in search of a problem. Since voter impersonation is essentially nonexistent, these laws are obviously implemented as a voter suppression tactic. OTOH, vaccine requirements serve a useful purpose.Assuming that voter impersonation were actually a rampant problem, or even a minor problem, then voter ID would be justified and it wouldn’t be inherently racist to implement it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 12:58:13 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 10:07:51 2021. All the airlines need to right now restrict flights for vaccinated passengers |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:59:19 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:45:10 2021. What city has a mask mandate now? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:02:29 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 12:58:13 2021. Unless they’re under 12. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 4 13:07:04 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:38:14 2021. You're okay with "ihre papiere, bitte"? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 4 13:07:05 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Aug 4 10:09:22 2021. So by all means, let's let more in. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 4 13:09:30 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:42:57 2021.  |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:14:52 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 12:44:04 2021. Not "exactly". How do you even have the vax card if you didn't prove it was you? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:16:34 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:56:45 2021. OhIs that what the lefts talking points tell you? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:17:07 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:50:20 2021. I *Do* appreciate that. I just did it! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:18:02 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:02:29 2021. Yes. But I assume that's for NYC restaurants too, but I hate "assuming" |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:18:42 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:59:19 2021. Schools, Los Angeles, San Fran, and many more. For indoors |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 13:19:39 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:14:52 2021. I had to show ID twice and then actually get vaccinated before I got my card |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:19:48 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:16:34 2021. No, it’s true. Voter impersonation is a manufactured issue. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 13:21:10 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 4 13:07:04 2021. It’s life during wartime |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:23:23 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:18:42 2021. Schools are different because kids under 12 can’t get vaxxed.Figures that it would be California. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:24:42 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 13:19:39 2021. I obviously showed my driver’s license, but I guarantee you the ID requirement is less stringent for getting vaxxed than the voter ID requirement in a Trump state. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:25:57 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 13:21:10 2021. People would accept all of this and more if we faced a threat from an invading human army. But because it’s an “Act of God,” people cry “muh freedom!” |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 14:22:53 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:24:42 2021. That is true. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 14:26:16 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:25:57 2021. In WWII, the big one, they had black out curtains, food and gas rationing, etc. Then came the baby boomers, and no sacrifice was too small to melt down over. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 14:37:26 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:45:10 2021. Sigh.I'm saying something that applies most places except CA, and specially pointing out how it applies in all of NY State, and you call it a NYC-centric post. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 14:39:05 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:19:48 2021. But, but there must be hundreds of cases of it in the US every single year. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 14:41:39 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 13:14:52 2021. People can identify themselves in ways that wouldn't work for voter ID in states with stringent rules. Like student IDs. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 16:11:50 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 13:24:42 2021. That is true. Some red states disallow student ID's, for instance. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 4 16:24:46 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 4 12:38:14 2021. Thats what I did. Got my vaccines in a Staples Warehouse and they threw in free lamination. Since its too big to carry around in my wallet, Its stashed away in my desk at home with a pic of it (both sides) on my phone.This way, I'll never lose it unless my house burns down. BTW, don't ever lose it. I'm hearing that you have to jump thru many hoops while going thru hell to replace it since now there is a black market out there for fake blank cards. kinda reminds me when of a time when fake draft cards were going around so underage kids could get into gin mills. IIRC I had two in case I lost one! |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 4 16:27:34 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 12:42:57 2021. I tried to get an Excelsior Pass and kept getting an error message. Then I looked at my vaccination card and noticed the person at Aqueduct Race Track spelled my first name wrong. They spelled it Jeffery when it's really Jeffrey. There was a response box if you had a problem and I explained it to them. The site said they will send a response. It's been 3 days so far. I'm wondering if I should apply as Jeffery. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 4 16:28:59 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 14:26:16 2021. Tell that to the disabled Viet Nam veterans. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 16:34:44 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 4 16:28:59 2021. Obviously I over-generalized but you get the picture. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 16:41:52 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 4 16:27:34 2021. I have a similar story. When I signed up I put in my DOB wrong (I posted about this already). I put in the wrong DOB and I got an excelsior pass with it. At least the year and month was correct so I can still use it to buy booze, rent a car, and run for office.Anyway, I did email them and they got it resolved after I sent a copy of my vax card and photo ID. So now I got 8 days of my life back. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 16:43:47 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 4 16:41:52 2021. Oh, and it did take a while. I emailed them on May 21 and they responded on June 28, but then they responded to my response on July 1. I did this after getting the Excelsior Pass with the wrong info, then I got another, corrected one. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 4 16:44:48 2021, in response to Re: COVID 2020 vs. 2021, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 4 16:34:44 2021. I don't agree that the baby boomers were more selfish than prior generations. Zillions of selfish bastards born in the teens, 20s, 30s, and 40s. |
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