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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 7 16:47:00 2021, in response to Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 10:05:36 2021.

Cracked.com didn’t have it. Neither did PornHub.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 7 17:08:10 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 7 13:28:21 2021.

Double Jeopardy can work both ways. It worked well in the case of Lemrick Nelson, who was acquitted by a racist Brooklyn Jury

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 7 17:10:36 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 7 13:45:12 2021.

Obviously looking to kiss the bosses ass

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 7 17:24:53 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 7 11:44:58 2021.

WHAT ?????????????????????

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 7 18:30:21 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 7 15:07:44 2021.

LOL, not where they have no jurisdiction and when the charges are trumped-up.

Why are you such a Nazi, eh?

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 7 18:32:45 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 7 15:07:44 2021.

Read the Fifth Amendment, you Nazi Constitution-hater.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 19:12:59 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 7 18:32:45 2021.

A Federal Civil Rights Charge is not considered the same offense as the state homicide charges, therefore the "Double Jeopardy" prohibition in the 5th Amendment does not apply. Mr. Rosen is correct.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 19:56:49 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 19:12:59 2021.

And in any event: Separate sovereigns.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 19:56:51 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 19:12:59 2021.

And in any event: Separate sovereigns.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 20:17:44 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 19:56:51 2021.

That doesn't always apply/work. NY courts threw out Vance's case against Manafort, he had been convicted, and pardoned, NY courts ruled NY DJ Law precluded him from being charged again in NY for the same crimes.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 7 20:26:30 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 7 16:13:46 2021.

Club price--Sam's Club? (If you know, I assume you didn't take the pic)

Strange, upper shelf seems to be Post products, lower one has Kellogg's on the left and Quaker on the right. Kinda compressed.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri May 7 20:44:34 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 7 20:26:30 2021.

Lol

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 20:50:27 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 20:17:44 2021.

But that’s because New York has protections against separate sovereign prosecutions. The US does not.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 21:02:10 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 20:50:27 2021.

That's why I said it's not absolute, sometimes it applies, sometimes it doesn't. But most of the rest applies across the board.. In this case, regardless of one's opinions on the case as a whole, there is certainly nothing unconstitutional about it. That thought shows a total lack of understanding of the relevant laws by some people. Sort of like the folks who fail to grasp what free speech really means.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 21:05:01 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 21:02:10 2021.

Par for the course for Olog-hai.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 8 08:50:55 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by pragmatist on Fri May 7 19:12:59 2021.

But in many instances, it is an end-run around double Jeopardy. That may or may not be a bad thing. In the previously mentioned Lemrick Nelson case, it was a good but wholly unsatisfying 2nd shot at justice. In that case, Nelson was acquitted of killing Yankel Rosenbaum. In the federal case, Nelson was convicted of violating Rosenbaum's civil rights by killing him. He was sentences to 10 years but served less than one due to time served in the prior case. So the case didn't count but the time served did. Justice?

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by pragmatist on Sat May 8 09:11:14 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 8 08:50:55 2021.

it may sometimes be used that way, but at the same time it has an important purpose - allowing prosecution of people who states would not effectively prosecute for a variety of reasons.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 8 15:11:39 2021, in response to Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 7 10:05:36 2021.



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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 8 15:37:13 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 8 15:11:39 2021.

Relevant to the original trial, not to this indictment.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 8 15:43:50 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 8 15:37:13 2021.

Please explain how this is not double jeopardy?

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 8 16:36:02 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 8 15:43:50 2021.

The USA and Minnesota are separate sovereigns.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 16:37:46 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 8 16:36:02 2021.

Do you know why Minnesota is so liberal.?

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 8 21:53:41 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 16:37:46 2021.

Northern Europeans who drink Alcohol?

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 21:57:55 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 8 21:53:41 2021.

yes.

White northern Europeans of Germanic and Scandinavian descent are the main voters in Minnesota and Wisconsin too. They are evolved to think like their distant relatives across the Atlantic.

This is why these ethnic groups are so liberal regardless of what country they're in. It's some kind of genetic mutation.

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 8 22:15:42 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 21:57:55 2021.

I hope I'M not susceptible to that genetic mutation!!!

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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 22:25:41 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 8 22:15:42 2021.

it's most common in WOMEN and beta cuckfaces. The younger men mostly.


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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 8 22:27:31 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 22:25:41 2021.

Whew!! I was worried there! I wouldn't wanna vote for some Lefty lunatic!

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 8 23:40:04 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 21:57:55 2021.

Fake news, #37. If that were true, then no cheating would have been necessary by the Dems.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 23:45:34 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 8 23:40:04 2021.

You hate when I truthspeak.

I will be back with a List of reasons you attack me.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 8 23:53:01 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 23:45:34 2021.

Yawn. The only reason I "attack" you is when you say things the left says that they get the fake right to say. One of the biggest is "demographics is destiny", which is just another way of stereotyping people according to ethnic origins—the USA is proof of the opposite being true, which is why the Democrats (and RINOs) always cheat to "win".

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 00:15:00 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 8 23:53:01 2021.

No. White northern European people are genetically adapted to be progressive.

This is why their cultures like Germany, Sweden, and England are so liberal.

Ireland too. Look at their abortion election results where more than 60% voted to legalize. This is further proof white northern European people are born progressive.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 00:18:01 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 00:15:00 2021.

who agrees?

AlM
Spider
Nilet
Fred G
GP38
ENY Yard subbus
Dand
Jayman
Clear
Wayne
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rkba


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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 01:18:26 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 00:15:00 2021.

White northern European people are genetically adapted to be progressive

Absolute BS. No such thing as genetic ideology; only people like the Nazis think that way. Plenty of so-called "white northern European people" came to the USA to reject progressivism.

Liberalism was imposed on Europe, in fact, by the European Union. And since you prove you know nothing whatsoever about Ireland, there's no way you can say that it's possible to be "genetic" to go from that country's Eighth Amendment to its Thirty-Sixth Amendment in a mere 35 years—unless their genes have undergone an extremely radical mutation in that space of time, which is utterly impossible.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 01:20:32 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 00:18:01 2021.

I'd say at least one on that list disagrees with that progressive outlook on humanity in the previous post.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 01:46:28 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 01:20:32 2021.

It can't be a coincidence that Minnesota has a huge Swedish and German population and is batshit crazy like many of their distant cousins across the Atlantic.

I'd add Wisconsin to that mix. Not all white Norther Europeans have mutated to be progressive but many have and by gender it's mostly women.


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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 01:52:23 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 01:46:28 2021.

It can't be a coincidence that Minnesota has a huge Swedish and German population and is batshit crazy like many of their distant cousins across the Atlantic

False association. Their genetic brethren across the rest of the USA do not think like that, and a sizable chunk in their home countries want nothing to do with socialism of any kind. This is why socialism is always imposed from the top down.

Not all white Norther Europeans have mutated to be progressive but many have and by gender it's mostly women

That's Marxist-Nazi thinking. Upbringing is what influences people's actions the most. But humans still have free will; the way you're talking, they do not.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:16:28 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 01:52:23 2021.

You can make the same observations in CANADA and Australia.

Huge white northern European population base and a lot of batshit crazy behavior and ideology. The mentality seems to be genetic.



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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Easy on Sun May 9 02:22:58 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:16:28 2021.

If you're considering the UK latitudes to be northern, then aren't the states with the largest number of people with "Northern" European ancestry in the south? Lots of Scottish and English in the south.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:29:23 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Easy on Sun May 9 02:22:58 2021.

true but they're all mixed with Indian.

In a way Olog is right, it's upbringing too, but you need the genetics to be a progressive just like you need the genetics for sports, academics, muscle building, etc.....

Look at Olog's people. Ireland just voted overwhelmingly for abortion. IRELAND! Known for conservative Irish-Catholicism and they vote more than 60% in favor of abortion.

I'm starting another thread about white people later.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:29:23 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Easy on Sun May 9 02:22:58 2021.

true but they're all mixed with Indian.

In a way Olog is right, it's upbringing too, but you need the genetics to be a progressive just like you need the genetics for sports, academics, muscle building, etc.....

Look at Olog's people. Ireland just voted overwhelmingly for abortion. IRELAND! Known for conservative Irish-Catholicism and they vote more than 60% in favor of abortion.

I'm starting another thread about white people later.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 02:29:39 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:16:28 2021.

The mentality seems to be genetic

I gave the shift from Ireland's Eighth Amendment to Thirty-Sixth as evidence of a shift so radical it cannot be explained by genetics, and you still say stuff like this? I guess geopolitics and metaphysics are something you need to brush up on more.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:37:17 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Olog-hai on Sun May 9 02:29:39 2021.

I do see it as genetic too.

Look at women like Joan Walsh and Maureen Down and Kathy Griffin. They all say they grew up in a very "Irish-Catholic" conservative household and went to Catholic school.

In each case their upbringing put them on the path to a conservative lifestyle but it's in their DNA to be progressive. This is seen in many white northern European ethnic groups.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:43:30 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:29:23 2021.

hopefully my thread about white people will trigger discussion from,

AlM
Olog
Spider
JayZeeBMT
Fred G
bingbong
clearaspect
Bauman
Easy
GP38
FBully1959
salaam
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Dyre Dan
Wayne
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Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by ntrainride on Sun May 9 11:42:26 2021, in response to Re: Derek Chauvin indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 8 21:57:55 2021.

i have ancestry consisting of

italian
sicilian
irish
german

and, for shits and giggles

"english"

as in, i skew all over the demographic map. to paraphrase the soup nazi, no predisposed ethnic traits for you!

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 9 22:37:33 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:29:23 2021.

Begorrah! Saints be praised!

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 9 22:39:29 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 02:43:30 2021.

I'm here! I've found that the most privileged raise kids and grandkids who think like that, as they've had it easy their entire life and naively think that others should live the types of lives that they do.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by ntrainride on Mon May 10 09:37:19 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 9 00:15:00 2021.

dude. you "analyse" in a computational fashion. mon amî, we don't live in a planar universe.

you're like, a guy from flatland who never met mr. A square.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 10 09:42:37 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun May 9 22:39:29 2021.

Yes, everyone should have an easy life if the economic production of society is capable of supporting it.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 10 13:21:58 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 10 09:42:37 2021.

Well, if they want one, let them work for one, and they will have one.

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Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 10 13:28:11 2021, in response to Re: Ham sandwich indicted by federal grand jury, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 10 13:21:58 2021.

TNHIW. There are clearly barriers to that.

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