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Posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 3 08:54:17 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 20:51:04 2021. Stop lying. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 3 08:59:25 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 02:30:51 2021. Wrong. Social structures are an important survival mechanism. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:42:06 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 07:35:23 2021. Actually it's the opposite. What made America great was the INCENTIVE for one to better themselves. Such as the pioneers going west for a better life. When you have laws making everything fair it takes away the incentives. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 09:45:24 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:42:06 2021. Bullshit. The main thing that separates us from third world shitholes is that we have laws establishing a fair market. In the US, the power of the state will enforce the contracts you enter into and provide recourse against fraud and theft. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:46:29 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 05:53:04 2021. I agree with you. But nobody is banning the books. The publisher is just not publishing them any more. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:48:53 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 06:13:47 2021. As a volunteer motorman, yes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 09:51:30 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:46:29 2021. Plenty of used books still out there.One of these books was published in the 1930s and thus should enter the public domain in a few years. Of course, it would have been in the public domain already had it not been for Congress extending copyrights. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 11:08:49 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 02:30:51 2021. Our country's founders didn't think so. They wrote about "the laws of nature and of nature's God", and about how all people "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights", saying "that to secure these rights, governments are established". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 12:35:36 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Mar 3 07:13:07 2021. The interview wasn't |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 12:46:30 2021, in response to Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 2 03:34:19 2021. It's not in question. It actually happened.You like the left's cancel culture, BTW? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:42:40 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Mar 3 07:20:50 2021. I'm SURE that you never thought anything was offensive either, until the "woke mob" told you to be offended. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:47:22 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 07:35:23 2021. You say that every time. There's no point in saying it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:49:39 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 3 08:54:17 2021. You would call me Cheyenne, because you would see the Big Boy!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:50:28 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by bingbong on Wed Mar 3 08:59:25 2021. I understand that, but it doesn't negate what I said. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 13:50:55 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:47:22 2021. I say it because it’s true. You’re not a Nazi, but you’re a hopeless romantic. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:56:57 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Mar 3 11:08:49 2021. It still doesn't negate what I said. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:04:04 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 13:50:55 2021. Really? You're "going there", because the nazis had a philosophy that one point happened to be aligned with mine. They also ate food and drank beer. Uh oh, Spider Godwin, that makes almost all of us one!!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 14:09:55 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:04:04 2021. I said you’re NOT a Nazi.But this isn’t like Nazis liked beer and dogs or whatever, it’s one of the actually odious parts of Nazi philosophy. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 14:18:27 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 13:49:39 2021. Does it still bother you that UP converted the 4014 to oil-burning . . . ? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:20:16 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 14:09:55 2021. Anecdotal. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:24:59 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases Dr. Seuss, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 14:18:27 2021. Yes. It's like having pancakes without the butter or syrup. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 14:27:27 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:20:16 2021. How is it anecdotal? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:38:07 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 3 14:27:27 2021. Because how I think has nothing to do with nazis, the boy scouts, or anyone else. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 14:46:14 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases Dr. Seuss, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:24:59 2021. There's no difference in the fuel except the form; it's another carbon-based fuel, and oil pumps and atomizers are easier to fix than automatic coal stokers anyhow, never mind less trouble with ash pans. The locomotive still looks and smells the same. Also, oil burners are a US tradition with respect to crossing long stretches of desert. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:53:46 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases Dr. Seuss, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 3 14:46:14 2021. Nope. There's no cinder ashes being dripped and that unique smell you get. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Mar 3 20:45:12 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 3 06:12:46 2021. IAWTP |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 21:10:37 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:46:29 2021. i can see that the camel sticking his nose in your tent doesn't bother you. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 21:23:08 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 2 13:49:57 2021. well...i did develop some level of antipathy towards whos... |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 21:26:58 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 2 20:36:59 2021. lol. that was actually truer than false. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 22:03:22 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 14:38:07 2021. a boy scout is:trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent proud second class (i was a lazy kid) ex-scout, troop 222, central islip. which, by the way had a, gasp!, black patrol leader. this, in 1968. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 22:18:26 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 22:03:22 2021. I was a boy scout as well. Second Class too. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 23:50:02 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 3 22:18:26 2021. us central islip scouts had another oath:on my honor i will do my best to help the girl scouts get undressed. yes indeed. c.i. was always a place replete with ne'er-do-wells and rapscallions. even...and especially...when it was mainly irish, german and italian. more so, actually. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 23:53:27 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 23:50:02 2021. Central Islip seems to be going through a revitalization of sorts |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 00:07:20 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Mar 3 23:53:27 2021. well, the only new construction for many years has been on the grounds of the central islip state mental hospital. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 4 00:14:47 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 00:07:20 2021. Yup. I drove through there 2 weeks ago. My old auto mechanic on Carlton Ave is gone. In the 80s, I had a house off of Lowell Av. That part looks as crappy as when we left. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 4 00:16:14 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 23:50:02 2021. What is it now? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 00:32:01 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 4 00:16:14 2021. maybe 30% "white", and that includes the newer residents living in the condos on the hospital grounds, 50% black (that population is aging though...), remainder hispanic.when i grew up there it was about 60/40 white-black. hardly any hispanics. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 4 01:59:05 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 3 09:46:29 2021. That's a fetid pile of BS. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 07:33:57 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by ntrainride on Wed Mar 3 22:03:22 2021. My son Eric is a Boy Scout now. I only made it from the Cub Scouts to the Weblows in the 60's, I don't think I was a Boy Scout. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Mar 4 08:20:35 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 07:33:57 2021. You did better than I did. Was in the Cub Scouts about 2 years (1967-1969), and never advanced past the Wolves. I guess I didn't have enough merit points or something, so in the spring of 1969, I was like, enough of this. I was in #488, which met in this church:Wasn't all bad. I got to march in the Brooklyn Day parade (probably in 1968, as that was my only full year in the Scouts). Also in 1968 (may have been the Saturday before Memorial Day) we went on a bus trip to Washington DC. My mother had to take me to the church to board the bus at O Dark Thirty. Apparently, the car was in the shop overnight, so we walked down to New York Av/Empire Blvd (stop was right in front of the Seven-One house) and took the B44 to the church. Got a 5000-series Flxible, where the rear door light wasn't working. By then I had ridden buses enough to know the sound that it made when activated, so I'll told my mom, I'll let you know when the door is ready, and I did. I guess she walked over to Nostrand and took the B44 back home (only a couple of blocks from where we lived). The trip was cool, we went by the Smithsonian and a couple of other places. Then we switched to a cool TDH-5303A Fishbowl, painted orange, great A/C (it was hot that day) and a cool sounding engine, to go to Arlington National Cemetery. We got back after dark, and I guess during the day, my mother went and got the car, because she picked me up in it. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 4 08:38:52 2021, in response to Re: Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 4 07:33:57 2021. scouting is an excellent way for a young teenager to begin to understand various structural elements of being a good citizen. and it offers a condoned way for boys to experience and appreciate the value of strong, independent thinking.when i was in it the boy scout manual was an excellent source of honest information about surviving in the "wild". i've never seen any published "survival-type" resources that could surpass it. as astoundingly useful as the original, thick computer shopper magazine was for nerds who dreamed about computers. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 6 14:12:21 2021, in response to Biden erases -Dr. Seuss?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Mar 2 03:34:19 2021. What a scary depiction, ooh. But guess what: it didn't make me hate anyone when I was a kid, or feel racist towards anyone. Only leftists get those feelings. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 6 14:28:08 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 6 14:12:21 2021. It's ridiculous |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 6 14:50:35 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 6 14:12:21 2021. Well, that image won't make me "hate" anyone, but it does make me feel a bit... awkward. It's not something that should be published without comment in a book for children, and such comments are not really what such a book should contain either. Thanks for showing it here, though. At least now I know what the fuss is about. I think Dr. Seuss Enterprises made the right decision in ceasing publication of the book containing that image.(Now, if the government tried to somehow block the continued publication of the book, I would strongly oppose that. But that is not what is happening. I also think eBay is wrong to remove these books from its listings.) |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 6 15:09:56 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 6 14:28:08 2021. Agreed. But it's the copyright holder's choice to stop publication. Freedom of speech, believe it or not. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 6 15:56:05 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 6 14:50:35 2021. By a comment for children do you mean like "most east Asian cultures use chop sticks or most Chinese people do not eat while running? Is that what you had in mind? If that image makes you feel awkward then you are the epitome of a snowflake. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 6 17:02:24 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 6 15:56:05 2021. Sort of. A comment something like "This is a kind of caricature that people from China and nearby countries would probably find insulting. Running while eating, grinning a huge grin, and wearing this kind of hat. But in 1937, when the book was first published, most Americans didn't think about things like that." If I were reading this to a child, and he saw the picture, I would probably make some comment like that, but try to keep it as brief as possible. Most likely, I would avoid showing him/her that particular picture, if i could.I think I did actually read that book ("And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street") as a child, about age 9, and did notice that picture. By that age, I already understood that there used to be a lot more prejudice in the world, and that a drawing like that would not be included in a more recent book. BTW, I looked up when the book was published, and was surprised that it was as early as 1937. I would have guessed more like 1947. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 6 17:47:23 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 6 17:02:24 2021. So you grew up seeing such pictures without a woke adult to explain context and racism and yet you grew up to understand that the depiction was not reality. I guess some how you believe that children of today are less intelligent or will grow up to be less intelligent.Personally, I saw pictures like that when I was younger. I also had a neighbor/friend, Nancy Kong, and I never equated her with the caricatures. I guess some of us can and do become somewhat well adjusted adults despite not having woke guidance from well meaning woke adults. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 6 17:53:54 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 6 17:47:23 2021. I wonder what I would have thought about it if I had seen it a few years earlier. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 6 18:05:17 2021, in response to Re: Biden cancels Dr. Seuss, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Mar 6 17:53:54 2021. Well, all I can say is thank God that my great grand children will all grow up having never had to endure the tragedy of seeing a statue of Robert E. Lee |
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