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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:13:39 2021, in response to Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:07:37 2021. Yeah. It's not necessary to follow Harlem with Manhattan.I'm guessing most everyone in the newsroom and on-air was raised outside the NYC Metro area and does not have the true feel for how to word NY news stories. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:14:36 2021, in response to Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:07:37 2021. Here's a link to a neighborhoods map by the NYC government.https://www1.nyc.gov/site/planning/data-maps/city-neighborhoods.page If you click on the drop-down selector in the map, there will be an alphabetical listing of all the defined NYC neighborhoods. Yes, there is a Wingate in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 23:20:04 2021, in response to Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:07:37 2021. It seems that most communities in the outer boroughs are identified by the community and then the borough like New Dorp Staten Island or Melrose in the Bronx. Why? Custom I guess |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:22:40 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:13:39 2021. That exactly what I said |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:23:17 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:14:36 2021. yes but when you go to those neighborhoods in Brooklyn or know people there they sometimes don't use the appropriate name.Queens is like that to an extent. In Brooklyn people were not as not as fussy about the neighborhood they came from but us Queens people were kind of defined by our neighborhoods. More than six years ago I went to a food truck event by Morgan Ave on the L train. Everyone calls that neighborhood "Bushwick". No one says "East Williamsburg". |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:25:49 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:14:36 2021. Bless your heart for providing that for me. Honestly. I know Wingate HS and Field but I never heard of the neighborhood referred to as Wingate, and certainly not that community board. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:36:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 23:20:04 2021. I know. Names can get sticky in a hurry. It’s either in the 77 or 71 which normally I would call Crown Heights. But my suspicion is that Crown Heights is not as sexy as Wingate. Even though Bauman pointed out on a map the name Wingate, the same map include Weeksville. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 23:37:29 2021, in response to Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:07:37 2021. They wanted to make sure to avoid confusion with Haarlem, Netherlands. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:37:39 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:23:17 2021. East Williamsburg is a real estate dream |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:39:21 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 23:37:29 2021. They did that when they left out the extra a 🥴 |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:46:16 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:37:39 2021. in a way it isn't.For some reason people in East Williamsburg adopted Bushwick. I guess if they can't live in Williamsburg proper they want their own identity. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:52:09 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 14 23:20:04 2021. Brooklyn's a little bit different. The Dutch organized into 6 towns. Here's a map of Brooklyn's original 6 towns. Starting in the 19th century, the village, then city of Brooklyn started to annex all the surrounding towns. Eventually, Brooklyn had annexed all of Kings County. What's interesting about this map, is that Williamsburg had not yet dropped its final "H" but New Lots and dropped its double "T". |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:52:42 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:46:16 2021. Maybe they’re playing on East Elmhurst or East Flatbush. God forbid East New York. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:57:56 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:52:42 2021. LOL.It's weird. East Williamsburg does not feel like Williamsburg. I just remember going to the neighborhood around Morgan Ave on the L and saw a big wall mural which read "Bushwick" and I asked a few people who told me the same. The neighborhood itself is interesting. Lots of old warehousing. Then rows of brick multiple dwellings. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:59:43 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:52:09 2021. is that a little island at Wallabout? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jan 15 00:04:46 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:37:39 2021. East Williamsburg is a real estate dreamI wonder what they'll eventually call Dead Horse Bay? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 15 00:06:55 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:57:56 2021. Yes. Remnants of late 19 early 20 century NY |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 15 00:07:32 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jan 15 00:04:46 2021. Gateway Nation Recreation Area |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jan 15 00:08:09 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:59:43 2021. is that a little island at Wallabout?Yes. That's why you don't want to rent ground floor space in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 15 00:09:34 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:52:09 2021. They should bring back Cripplebush. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 15 00:29:34 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 15 00:09:34 2021. Agreed |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jan 15 03:17:12 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 14 23:14:36 2021. Another fake neighborhood name. That's Crown Heights. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 15 08:23:00 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jan 15 00:07:32 2021. ROFLOL! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jan 15 08:25:09 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 14 23:57:56 2021. And 1 former railroad terminal. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Jan 16 16:49:05 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:37:39 2021. no it ain't. for a while i had a job located on rewe street. just north of where metropolitan avenue and grand street intersect. it was where rewe street curves around the newtown crick. i mean creek.sheeit. at lunch sometimes, i would wonder around the corner of the building and sit there on the bank of the creek, tom sawyer-style, watching the water "flow". if tom sawyer also lit up a doob after he et his lunch that is. but that shit was definitely known as east williamsburg when i was known to frequent thise environs way back in the early seventies. so, you're wrong, sparky. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jan 16 18:18:51 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jan 15 03:17:12 2021. Like what they did to Hell's Kitchen...turn it into Clinton! |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 17 01:49:57 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by ntrainride on Sat Jan 16 16:49:05 2021. Sparky. I take that as a compliment |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 17 06:43:08 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Jan 16 18:18:51 2021. Redhook="Liberty Heights"South Brooklyn = "Carroll Gardens" Bay Ridge = "Sunset Park" |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jan 17 08:19:01 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 17 01:49:57 2021. Lyle? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 17 16:35:28 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Jan 17 06:43:08 2021. What the hell is Liberty Heights?Who calls Bay Ridge Sunset Park? Why would someone do that? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Jan 17 17:24:07 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 17 16:35:28 2021. i've never heard that either. if anything, it would be the reverse. calling, say, third avenue and fifty first street bay ridge. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Jan 17 20:38:01 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 17 16:35:28 2021. I've heard of news reports mention Sunset Park, but I've never heard of it being another name for Bay Ridge. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Jan 17 20:48:55 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by 3-9 on Sun Jan 17 20:38:01 2021. Sure because it’s own distinct neighborhood |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 03:06:38 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by ntrainride on Sun Jan 17 17:24:07 2021. That IS Bay Ridge. And before anyone argues with me, I was born and raised there, as 3 generations of my family before me. The real estate agents started calling it Sunset Park to separate it from the other side of 65th Street, as the "white people" lived there, and the "Puerto Ricans" lived here. In fact, I never even heard of the neighborhood being called Sunset Park until I was like 18-19 years old. It was always Bay Ridge, which is the name of the Post Office on 55th and 7th. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 03:07:37 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by 3-9 on Sun Jan 17 20:38:01 2021. Only the part north of 65th sStreet by the real estate developers circa 1980 or so. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 18 04:38:15 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 03:06:38 2021. thanks. appreciate the data. yeah, when i lived on twentieth between sixty fourth and sixty fifth streets, from around 1985 to 1988 i always considered "bay ridge" as roughly starting south of thirty sixth street. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 05:26:12 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 03:07:37 2021. In fact, the locals (old people) called the area around Sunset Park itself as "Finn Town", because that was a local Finnish enclave around 40, 41, 42 streets 6, 7, 8 Avenue back in the day. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 18 08:15:27 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 05:26:12 2021. That explains the relation between the 2. Interesting bit of trivia! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 11:10:08 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 03:06:38 2021. Neighborhoods change names, and "Sunset Park" and "Bay Ridge" are different enough that it justifies the distinction. Bay Ridge used to be called Yellow Hook. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 11:11:36 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 05:26:12 2021. Cool! I never knew that. I knew about the Norwegians in Bay Ridge (hence Leif Ericson Park/Leif Ericson Drive). |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:36:46 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:52:42 2021. My favorite one was East Patterson changing their name to Elmwood Park because Patterson had negative connotations. The reporter quipped that Patterson needed to retaliate by changing its name to West Elmwood Park, but that didn't happen. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 18 11:39:43 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:36:46 2021. Talking about towns with bad connotations, Dover sucks!! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:40:04 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 18 04:38:15 2021. Never knew that. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 11:41:50 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 11:10:08 2021. And then there was Yellow Fever |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:41:58 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 11:11:36 2021. That portion of the Belt Parkway was renamed Lief Erickson drive for not naming the Bridge after him, but for Verrazzano. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:43:15 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 14 23:36:28 2021. Crown Heights was always north of Lefferts Avenue after it was renamed from Crow Hill. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:44:43 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 14 23:37:29 2021. There are other Harlems as well. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jan 18 11:45:09 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 15 00:09:34 2021. Where's Cripplebush? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jan 18 11:45:23 2021, in response to Re: Wingate, Brooklyn, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 18 05:26:12 2021. A relative of mine lives in a former Finnish co-op in that vicinity. 8th ave has a Nick name referring to a Finnish stew or something like that. |
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