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Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 03:15:26 2006

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Founded by Dr. Mualena Karenga, then chairman of black studies at California State University in Long Beach, Kwanzaa focuses on seven core principles, expressed in Swahili as Nguzo Saba (nn-Goo-zoh SAH-bah). Each principle is linked with one of the seven days of the celebration, which runs from December 26 through January 1 each year. Listed in order of observance, the principles are:
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Umoja (oo-MOH-JAH) -- Unity
Kujichagulia (koo-ji-chah-goo-LEE-ah) -- Self-determination
Ujima (oo-JEE-mah) -- Collective work and responsibility
Ujamma (oo-jah-MAH) -- Cooperative economics
Nia (NEE-ah) -- Purpose
Kuumba (koo-OO-mbah) -- Creativity
Imani (ee-MAH-nee) -- Faith


The holiday's daily ritual begins with the lighting of one of the seven candles placed in the candleholder called the kinara (kee-NAH-rah), by a family member or friend. This candle-lighting is followed by a discussion of the day's principle, a folktale, or a shared recollection of how the principle has influenced the family or friend participating in the celebration.

The first candle lit and placed in the center of the kinara is the black candle, which is symbolic of unity. As the celebration continues in the following days, revelers light a red or green candle daily to commemorate each principle. The three green candles represent self-determination, collective work and responsibility, and cooperative economics. The three red candles are for purpose, creativity, and faith. Often the green candles are placed to the right of the black candle and the three red candles are placed on the left side.

The word Kwanzaa is derived from the Swahili word meaning "first" or "first fruits of the harvest." Kwanzaa reflects the traditions of harvest festivals celebrated in many African countries, acknowledging the first fruits of the harvest, and the reward of family and friends working together to produce the season's crop.



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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:03:03 2006, in response to Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 03:15:26 2006.

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I put a 40 oz for the Kwaanza Bot so he will leave us the traditional Kwaanza gift, a book titled "What The Hell Is Kwaanza?".

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:05:58 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:03:03 2006.

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Happy Kwanzaa!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:06:16 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:03:03 2006.

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Don't be an asshole.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:16:13 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:06:16 2006.

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As usual, you don't get it:

http://www.gotfuturama.com/Information/Capsules/3ACV03/

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:24:29 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:16:13 2006.

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Did you consider whether Salaam would "get it?"

Asshole.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:36:44 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:24:29 2006.

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I don't care about him. It was meant to be humorous for other readers.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:50:51 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:36:44 2006.

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Like I said, you're being an asshole.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 16:44:37 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:24:29 2006.

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i dont get that millions of black people celebrate Kwanzaa !!
i am seeing this all over black los angeles
i am sure this is going on in new york too
i do not "get it?"...........eh ?
i get plenty !!
''''Asshole''''' RonInBayside'''''''''' !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 17:20:22 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 16:44:37 2006.

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I was questioning whether Chris knew whether you would get the reference to the comedy routine he was talking about.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 17:26:49 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:03:03 2006.

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Ha Ha, Kwanza is another bullshit holiday. It has as much use as festivus.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 17:50:19 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 17:20:22 2006.

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Not to worry, Ron. Salaam is an equal-opportunity moron. He attacks those who attack him with the same ferrocity that he attacks his defenders and those who are salaam-neutral. He's like a rabid dog in heat.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 17:59:23 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 17:20:22 2006.

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Salaam must have been who Hillary Clinton had in mind when she wrote her latest book:, "It Takes A Village To Raise An Idiot"

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 26 18:05:45 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 16:44:37 2006.

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I'm not plugged into that kinda thing, but in the south it sounds like no one celebrates it from what I've heard at various workplaces, but when I watch WGN(Chicago) TV or so, it sounds like a big thing.
I wonder how accurate this is.

Maybe it's a scam for one group to have two holidays consecutively while everyone has one. :)

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 26 18:10:39 2006, in response to Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 03:15:26 2006.

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Lets revive Saturnalia :-D

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 18:19:53 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 17:26:49 2006.

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"Kwanza is another bullshit holiday. It has as much use as festivus."

In which case, Christmas and Hanukahg are as much bullshit as Kwanzaa. The only difference between them in the US is that one has more effect in terms of retailers making money off of shoppers.

Otherwise, all of them offer meaning and a source of comfort and joy and (whatever you feel for your holiday) for different groups of people. You may think it's BS, so you have no right to complain if someone else thinks your holiday is BS.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Westinghouse XCB248S on Tue Dec 26 18:21:30 2006, in response to Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 03:15:26 2006.

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It will last until next week monday.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 18:22:05 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 17:50:19 2006.

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But without nice legs and perky tits....

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by BMT Guy on Tue Dec 26 18:37:50 2006, in response to Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 03:15:26 2006.

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Besides creating Kwannza, Dr. Mualena Karenga is remembered for ratting out the Los Angeles chapter of the Black Panthers to the FBI....so to some the guy is scum and to others he is a hero....depends on your perspective.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by BMT Guy on Tue Dec 26 18:38:29 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 18:19:53 2006.

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Good point.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 18:39:41 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 18:19:53 2006.

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Christmas and Chanukah are both BS holidays. Any holiday predicated on a lie or that encourages division by race is BS.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 19:10:56 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 18:19:53 2006.

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Kwaanza is a purely manufactured holiday, just like Festivus. Festivus was manufactured for laughs, Kwaanza was to push a socialist, race-based political agenda.

At least Constantine stole existing holidays for Christianity, instead of inventing them.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Dec 26 19:12:06 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 18:39:41 2006.

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So what isn't a BS holiday?

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 19:17:15 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Dec 26 19:12:06 2006.

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New Years Day.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 19:46:05 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 26 18:10:39 2006.

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And Yule.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 19:47:06 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Dec 26 19:12:06 2006.

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Bastille Day.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by JohnL on Tue Dec 26 20:13:45 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 19:46:05 2006.

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I’ll just love it.

Absolutely, yule love it…

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 20:25:02 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by JohnL on Tue Dec 26 20:13:45 2006.

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[Groans.]

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by JohnL on Tue Dec 26 20:29:32 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 20:25:02 2006.

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What do you expect. I’m living in a part of the country where the best television on Christmas day is a three hour program(me) of a burning Yule log!

Oh, and we got last year’s Dr Who Christmas special, with so many adverts that I lost track of the plot.

Resisting the temptation of more wooden puns…

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 20:37:33 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by JohnL on Tue Dec 26 20:29:32 2006.

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What do you expect. I’m living in a part of the country where the best television on Christmas day is a three hour program(me) of a burning Yule log!

:-) That sounds like something to watch ten minutes of once in one's life!

Oh, and we got last year’s Dr Who Christmas special, with so many adverts that I lost track of the plot.

You mean there was one? I can't help feeling that Dr Who has become a bit popularist and silly. Whatever happened to dodgy cars, dodgier scarves, and even dodgier special effects?

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 21:09:42 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 17:50:19 2006.

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you are the moron

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 21:11:09 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 17:59:23 2006.

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wrong again !! typical and as usual for you !!
i would never vote for ........................
.........''Hillary Clinton''.................never !!
hell no

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 21:13:48 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by BMT Guy on Tue Dec 26 18:37:50 2006.

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that is true !!
you are not incorrect on that one
BMT Guy

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Dec 26 21:15:01 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 21:09:42 2006.

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You are a SHERMHEAD!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 21:40:33 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 21:11:09 2006.

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Stupid, try to follow this. I realize that you do not read well and usually don't understand what you read but just give it a try. I'll try to go slow so you can keep up.

I NEVER SAID THAT YOU'D VOTE FOR HILLART, ASSHOLE!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by JohnL on Tue Dec 26 21:41:45 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 20:37:33 2006.

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Now produced by BBC Wales. Different quarry for alien planets…

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 26 21:49:51 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 21:11:09 2006.

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Stupid, try to follow this. I realize that you do not read well and usually don't understand what you read but just give it a try. I'll try to go slow so you can keep up.

I NEVER SAID THAT YOU'D VOTE FOR HILLARY, ASSHOLE!

I SAID THAT YOU WERE LIKELY THE SUBJECT HILLARY HAD IN MIND WHEN SHE WROTE HER BOOK, ASSHOLE!

I'M WRONG TO CALL YOU AN ASSHOLE. THAT GIVES YOU FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT!


I'M SORRY FOR YOUR CONFUSION, SCHMUCK


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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Rail Blue on Tue Dec 26 22:08:19 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by JohnL on Tue Dec 26 21:41:45 2006.

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Now produced by BBC Wales. Different quarry for alien planets…

Reminds me of that Red Dwarf episode where Arnold Rimmer instructs Holly to:

"Transmit on all known frequencies and in all known languages - including Welsh."

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 22:55:38 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 12:03:03 2006.

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Question...

Do you drink 40's?

Do you "drink"..period.

Its garbage..it pollutes the body and brain.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 22:57:17 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 12:50:51 2006.

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40 oz crack was not humorous one bit.

Not all people of color "drink" that trash.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 23:11:11 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 19:10:56 2006.

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You are a idiot.

Here it is..a group of folks take it upon themselves to "create" something to call their own..and you[with your ignorant ass] come along a shoot it down.

So what it doesn't conform with what you "need" to make you feel important?
You think "holidays" appear from thin air?
You would be RIGHT!

All are "MADE UP" to satisify some group of people here and there.

Also..where do you think "christmas" came from?
Certainly didn't have anything to do with Jesus..and it certainly didn't have anything to do with God.

I dont particapate in "Kwaanza"..but I respect it meaning..especially when it come to harth, home and family.

You need to stop being so bigoted..and open your eyes.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 23:17:07 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 17:26:49 2006.

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You are just as ignorant as he is...and as much deserving of a lashing.

WHY do you constantly foucus of what negative,instead of positive things?

Does the fact that people celebrate this "holiday" bother you in such a way that you resport to disrepect?

I don't "believe" in Christmas,due to the facts that it is a lie..but I don't "Bah Humbug" people that do.

I don't "do" Kwaanza..but I RESPECT people that choose it over St Nick...

It may be "made up"..but then so are ALL SO CALLED HOLIDAYS..

Stop being a jerk.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by monorail on Tue Dec 26 23:19:17 2006, in response to Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 03:15:26 2006.

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Happy Kwanzaa to all!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 23:20:44 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 18:39:41 2006.

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Are you that DENSE?

Kwaanza is NOT based on race!
Sure..it was founded BY PEOPLE OF COLOR..but that did not exclude ANY ONE.

Some of my friends celebrate it..and they are as white as YOU.

But then again..you are silly..so I wouldn't think you'd understand that.

GET out of the DARK AGES.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 23:22:02 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 23:11:11 2006.

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Umoja (oo-MOH-JAH) -- Unity
Kujichagulia (koo-ji-chah-goo-LEE-ah) -- Self-determination
Ujima (oo-JEE-mah) -- Collective work and responsibility
Ujamma (oo-jah-MAH) -- Cooperative economics
Nia (NEE-ah) -- Purpose
Kuumba (koo-OO-mbah) -- Creativity
Imani (ee-MAH-nee) -- Faith
..............
what is negative about any of this ?

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Dec 26 23:33:22 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 26 23:22:02 2006.

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Ujima (oo-JEE-mah) -- Collective work and responsibility
Ujamma (oo-jah-MAH) -- Cooperative economics


COMMUNIST!!!!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 23:37:39 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 18:39:41 2006.

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I appreciate your consistency!

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 23:38:01 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by zdeno on Tue Dec 26 19:17:15 2006.

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Is it good for retailers? :)

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 26 23:39:39 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 26 19:10:56 2006.

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And murdered lots of people along the way. If that's a reason for you to celebrate, that's you.

Of course, if Jesus never existed (and I'm saying IF) then Christmas is manufactured too.

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Re: Kwanzaa begins today

Posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 27 00:45:02 2006, in response to Re: Kwanzaa begins today, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 26 23:17:07 2006.

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It may be "made up"..but then so are ALL SO CALLED HOLIDAYS..

The other holidays have long established traditions behind them.

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