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Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 15:47:32 2020

NBC News:

How a fake persona laid the groundwork for a Hunter Biden conspiracy deluge


Latest: Carlson loses interest in pursuing Hunter Biden:

Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has obsessively covered Hunter Biden’s emails since the story exploded in conservative media earlier this month, suddenly said on Thursday night that he didn’t want to be involved with “piling on” Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s son...Interestingly enough, just a couple of hours before Carlson’s broadcast, NBC News reported that a 64-page dossier alleging a complex conspiracy involving Hunter Biden and China was actually authored by a fake persona. The fake intelligence document, which had been floating around the far-right web for a month before the New York Post published a controversial article echoing those conspiracy theories, was eventually disseminated by close associates of the president.

Perhaps, the far right had to go to such extremes to smear the Bidens because they could not dig up anything legitimate.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Oct 30 15:54:52 2020, in response to Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 15:47:32 2020.

IAWTP

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 16:05:05 2020, in response to Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 15:47:32 2020.

Lulz. Now they've run out of time. No chance to conjure another fake scandal and get it out before the election's over.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Easy on Fri Oct 30 16:09:23 2020, in response to Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 15:47:32 2020.

If I'm reading the article correctly, it seems to be saying that the documents released 1 month ago that no one is talking about or ever heard of are fake. It's not saying that the controversial laptop emails are fake. Is that correct?

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 16:21:35 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 16:05:05 2020.

Amazing that you are so bereft of ethics that you'd excuse criminal activities backed by irrefutable evidence just for political gain. That you were denied children by the almighty proves his infinite wisdom. What dishonest, immoral shits they would have become with such amoral parents.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 16:31:04 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 16:21:35 2020.

LOL! The white House ITSELF debunked those "documents".

Hunter Biden is a private citizen and has a cause of action should these lies go much further than this has. He isn’t even involved in his fathers campaign or office like the trump offspring are.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 16:33:02 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 16:31:04 2020.

As I said. You are totally devoid of any ethics or honesty. Q.E.D.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 16:36:26 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 16:21:35 2020.

you'd excuse criminal activities backed by irrefutable evidence

The absolute right to challenge one's accuser means there's no such thing as "irrefutable" evidence in a legal context.

The only reason this evidence might be considered "irrefutable" is because its author appears to be a fake and cannot be cross examined. Of course, the lack of an author also makes it difficult to authenticate.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 16:41:03 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Easy on Fri Oct 30 16:09:23 2020.

There are enough questions regarding the laptop and its contents to challenge one's credulity. The authenticity laptop and its contents has not been helped by the disclosure of the lengths people have gone by fabricating the documents.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 17:20:36 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 16:33:02 2020.

You’re totally delusional.

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 30 17:37:49 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 16:41:03 2020.

Thanks for confirming that the linked story has absolutely nothing to do with the laptop documents. That NBC story was put out to generate confusion, because there isn't any evidence to challenge the credibility of the laptop. Even WaPo was forced to concede as much, buried in an article opining on the similarities between these leaks and the Russian 2016 interference.


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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 30 17:41:30 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 30 17:37:49 2020.

there isn't any evidence to challenge the credibility of the laptop

Stephen posted extensive observations as to why the emails appeared to be forged.

And if the holders of the laptop won't release it to a neutral observer, how can anyone ever prove it's either real or fake?



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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 30 18:23:05 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 30 17:41:30 2020.

The Daily Caller turned over the most damning email to a third party to verify its veracity, and it passed.

I will say that the right wingers (media as well as Giuliani) keeping such a tight lid on the laptop is severely hurting their credibility - they are trying to get the exclusive stories for clicks, playing games. Right now the only people I know of who have copies of the data are Rudy, Jack Posobiec (OAN), and now the Daily Caller.

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 30 18:33:28 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Oct 30 18:23:05 2020.

I will say that the right wingers (media as well as Giuliani) keeping such a tight lid on the laptop is severely hurting their credibility

With whom?

Who can they turn them over to that can be trusted not to destroy them or otherwise adulterate them?

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 18:48:09 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 17:20:36 2020.

Delusional? I thought I was a misogynist? Another of your stock charges. Fact is, God hates you, still.

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 19:00:13 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 30 18:33:28 2020.

An excellent point.

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 19:09:42 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 30 18:33:28 2020.

Who can they turn them over to that can be trusted not to destroy them or otherwise adulterate them?

They could have posted the emails, complete with their headers, on the internet. There are enough computer nerds to check their authenticity.

Perhaps, they were afraid of what the nerds might find?

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 19:11:29 2020, in response to Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 15:47:32 2020.

Actually, I heard that THAT story is a BS interference story conjured up my NBC to get attention off of Basement Biden. I'm not saying I believe it, per se....

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 19:22:24 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 19:11:29 2020.

m not saying I believe it, per se....

Will Swiss security analyst Martin Aspen sue NBC for libel?

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 19:24:30 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 19:09:42 2020.

Where, on facebook or twitter?

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 19:34:18 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 19:24:30 2020.

Where, on facebook or twitter?

The internet's a big place. There are many more destinations than Facebook and Twitter. The full posting is for the nerds to authenticate. They would find it.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 30 19:39:38 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 19:11:29 2020.

People say that Trump has tertiary syphilis.

I'm not saying I believe it, per se....



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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 19:45:15 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 19:22:24 2020.

HTH would I know?

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Oct 30 20:01:28 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 19:11:29 2020.

I heard that Trump is a serial pedophile. Lots of people are saying it. I'm not saying I believe it per se, but...

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 20:23:40 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 18:48:09 2020.

You don't speak for God.

You can barely speak for yourself.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 20:53:16 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by bingbong on Fri Oct 30 20:23:40 2020.

Look at your life. If he felt mercy for you he'd call you home.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 20:56:33 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Oct 30 20:01:28 2020.

The only difference is....

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Oct 30 22:33:09 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 30 20:56:33 2020.

That lots more people are saying that Trump is a serial pedophile than the NBC story is BS?

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Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 31 02:00:01 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Document no one is talking about Found Out, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Oct 30 19:34:18 2020.

People are clamoring for them to get dumped onto WikiLeaks.

As of a few hours ago, someone has been posting emails and texts (with addresses/numbers redacted) on twitter semi-randomly in part to piss off one of the "gatekeepers" of the document trove. They basically are asking their followers to suggest search terms and sending out and emails that match. I feel like I'm reading spoilers for the next few days of news articles that places like the NY Post were hoping to drop in a more controlled manner...

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 31 02:34:17 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by 3-9 on Fri Oct 30 22:33:09 2020.

Nooooooo....

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 31 05:45:03 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by Train Dude on Fri Oct 30 20:53:16 2020.

Nothing wrong with my life. I live where you come for vacation. That's hard to beat.

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Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Oct 31 11:33:36 2020, in response to Re: Hunter Biden Documents Found Out, posted by bingbong on Sat Oct 31 05:45:03 2020.

Only because the rents are low.

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