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Air India crash

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Aug 7 12:36:36 2020

Crashed on landing

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 7 14:45:15 2020, in response to Air India crash, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Aug 7 12:36:36 2020.

Sounds like it hydroplaned on a wet runway.

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Aug 7 15:57:07 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 7 14:45:15 2020.

Updates
16 dead , many injuries......

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 7 17:19:42 2020, in response to Air India crash, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Aug 7 12:36:36 2020.

Man, MSM can't even get non-political news right:

The aircraft involved is a Boeing 737-800 -- an earlier model of the 737 Max with a generally strong safety record.

That sentence is confusing and pointless. No 737 Maxs are flying. If they really wanted to make a distinction they should say:

The 737-800 has a strong safety record, and is part of the last generation of 737 before the troubled 737-MAX (or somesuch).

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 7 19:00:07 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 7 17:19:42 2020.

Wonder if "MAX' means this is the last 737 model that they will produce, or else they would have called it "900".

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by pragmatist on Fri Aug 7 19:09:37 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 7 19:00:07 2020.

900 and 900er already exist it is somewhat longer than an 800.. United and Delta have some and so does Alaska, not sure if any others are in the US.....There are close to 5000 800s sold, they are everywhere

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 7 19:37:02 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 7 19:00:07 2020.

During the press conference announcing the re-engined 737, Nicole Piasecki [Vice President and General Manager of the Propulsion Systems Division of Boeing's commercial aircraft business.] explained why Boeing chose the MAX name:

“We wanted the name to capture how exceptional the 737 is not only to in terms of its performance but we wanted it to be able to differentiate the 7, 8 and 9. We wanted to make sure the name was easily identifiable from 4-year olds up to 90-year olds and we wanted to make sure that it represented the best that it will truly be… We thought about how do you convey superiority, the best, the gold standard in single-aisle airplanes. And how do you come up with a name to describe already a great airplane. We wanted to make sure that it talked about what it was going bring to the industry in terms of maximum benefit, maximum competitive advantage for our customers, maximum value and absolute maximum in what an airplane could deliver to our customers. So we came up with something that fit that and we will be calling this airplane the 737 MAX.”

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 7 21:07:46 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 7 19:00:07 2020.

There is one. The -N00 suffix in recent years has been distinguishing by size.

737-700 are "small" with one emergency exit window over each wing
737-800 are "medium" with two
737-900 are "large" with two and a noticeable cut-out spot 3/4 of the way to the back for an extra full size door. Any airline that doesn't have a first class section (and therefore has the maximum number of possible passengers) and uses one of these is required to opt for the door there.

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 7 21:26:18 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 7 14:45:15 2020.

and then slid down a 35 foot embankment at the end of the runway - an amazingly well thought out feature of that airport.

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by pragmatist on Fri Aug 7 22:12:14 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 7 21:07:46 2020.

There was a 600 really small, but very few were sold. Too heavy and expensive for its passenger load. WestJet has a few, I see them at LGA once in a while. Sort of like the A-318, a niche seller, while the 700 sold very well as did the 319.

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 7 23:34:43 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by pragmatist on Fri Aug 7 22:12:14 2020.

On the large end I think instead of the 737-900/MAX9 airlines should opt for the 787-8.

Two aisles and L2 boarding are better than one aisle and front door boarding. I'm actually kinda confused why this MAX mass grounding hasn't resulted in more orders for them, airlines could probably force boeing to substitute/upgrade their order...

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Aug 7 23:54:14 2020, in response to Air India crash, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Aug 7 12:36:36 2020.

Aircraft was VT-AXH, a 2006 Boeing 737-8HJ

In happier times:



RIP to all lost.

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Aug 8 05:03:04 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Aug 7 23:34:43 2020.

The problem is the 787-8 is too much aircraft for these airlines. Unfortunately Boeing has never developed a worthy successor to the 757.

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Re: Air India crash

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Aug 8 09:01:31 2020, in response to Re: Air India crash, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Aug 8 05:03:04 2020.

And some smaller airports where the 737 (even the 737-900ERRH*) currently operates may not be able to accommodate the Dreamliner (I think even the smallest version (787-8) maybe be longer than the 739, and certainly is wider).

*-737-900 Extended Range Runway Hog 😂

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