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525,600

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020

COVID-19 is now killing one person every 60 seconds in the US.. If this death rate continues unchanged for the next 12 months, the virus will kill 525,600 people in our country.

Yet we still think mask usage and re-opening schools are up for debate.

'Murica.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 09:30:38 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

I see. NY and NJ killed off all of their sick and old at the beginning and now sit back and feel superior when it happens to California, Texas, and the rest of "Murica".

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Re: 525,600

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 09:45:42 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 09:30:38 2020.

That is false.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 1 09:58:31 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 09:30:38 2020.

Donít feed the mini-troll

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Re: 525,600

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 1 12:52:34 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 09:30:38 2020.

Yes exactly.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 1 12:55:06 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 09:45:42 2020.

When It Comes to COVID-19 Deaths, Florida Is No "New York"

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/when-it-comes-covid-19-deaths-florida-no-new-york



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Re: 525,600?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 12:56:06 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

Still not distinguishing between those who died with the virus and those who died from it.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 13:44:19 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 1 12:55:06 2020.

Yes, NYC was very badly hit by covid. But the article does not substantiate Easy's claim, even understanding that he was exaggerating for effect.





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Re: 525,600?

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 13:48:10 2020, in response to Re: 525,600?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 1 12:56:06 2020.

Stupid distinction.

Yes, a few people died in car accidents while they had covid and were called covid deaths when they should have been called car accident deaths. But the rate of covid deaths is so much higher than the rate of most other unnatural causes of death that the accidental overcount of covid deaths is minimal. There is also a corresponding accidental undercount.

The number of excess deaths above what would have been statistically expected since February is slightly higher than the number of recorded covid deaths. And this is despite car accident deaths going down because people have been driving less.






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Re: 525,600

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 1 13:49:27 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Aug 1 12:55:06 2020.

FOX HERITAGE FOUNDATION

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Re: 525,600

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 1 13:50:34 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

Swing that sickle!!

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Re: 525,600

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 13:53:34 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 13:44:19 2020.

I know a couple that is VERY fastidious about avoiding covid. They live in the suburbs and only go out when needed. They coordinate trips to minimize the number of outside trips. They always wear masks and wash their hands and use sanitizer. They even remove all of their clothes before entering the house and immediately wash them. Yet they got covid. They have no idea how or when they contracted it, but they think that if they can get it, literally everyone can and will get it.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 13:56:59 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 13:53:34 2020.

Yikes.



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Re: 525,600

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 1 14:06:15 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 13:53:34 2020.

Yep

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Re: 525,600

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 14:12:19 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 1 13:50:34 2020.

You do understand that what you are wishing for others, may instead befall you?

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 14:16:43 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 13:53:34 2020.

literally everyone can and will get it.

Can get it, yes, will get it hopefully not.

At the rate hot spots like FL are developing new cases, it will still take a few years for everyone to get it. Hopefully there will be a vaccine first.

Anyway, I have encountered at least 10,000 people on the street since March 16th without getting it. But I've always had an N95 mask on. So I'm thinking that masks help, even outdoors, although if there is no guarantee.




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Re: 525,600

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 1 14:17:28 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

Gov of California predicted millions would die this year.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 1 14:21:30 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

"Mini-mama, the sky is falling!"

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 14:24:22 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 1 14:17:28 2020.

No, unless you mean worldwide.

For the US to get herd immunity, originally the estimate was that 2 million people would have died. Based on improved treatments, the estimate is down to 1 million.





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Re: 525,600

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Aug 1 14:27:25 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 14:12:19 2020.

What makes you think I didn't have it a few months ago, with very mild symptoms, or asymptomatic?

Anyways, I'm not "wishing" it on anyone

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Re: 525,600

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 14:28:26 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 14:16:43 2020.

I have encountered tons of people outside as well and haven't gotten it afaik. I forgot to mention that they are young and have and had absolutely no symptoms. They got a test for other reasons.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 1 14:29:50 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 14:24:22 2020.

No he was talking about his state.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Aug 1 14:35:54 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 14:16:43 2020.

Florida has lots cases in nursing homes and low income Hispanic communities like Miami Dade.

It's so fucking hot in places like Florida and Arizona for long periods and people stay in cooler temp indoor areas around other people.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 15:02:38 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 14:28:26 2020.

Yeah, I've thought of getting a test, but there are so many false negatives and false positives, I don't see the point.

I have been feeling run down in an odd sort of way for the last few months, so I might have gotten an extremely mild case too. Early on, before I had sufficiently practiced my evasive maneuvers, I got a big lungful of cigarette smoke-laden air from some guy I didn't notice in time.








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Re: 525,600

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 1 17:19:16 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 15:02:38 2020.

there are so many false negatives and false positives, I don't see the point.

Agreed. I had the opportunity to get both tests a month ago. I got the "ideal" result of positive antibodies and negative on the nasal swab. People were congratulating me. But nothing about having received these results has changed my life in any way. I still have to wear the masks as others do and, should I at some point be traced as having been in contact with someone who had the virus, I would still be asked/instructed to quarantine if I understand the current procedures correctly.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 18:00:54 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

re-opening schools

What do you recommend for families that will be evicted if they can't send their kids to school, because then they can't earn enough money to pay the rent?



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Re: 525,600

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Aug 2 01:13:02 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 1 18:00:54 2020.

I wonder how many of those folks have jobs from 0800-1420.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Aug 2 01:37:46 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 1 13:49:27 2020.

My thoughts exactly.

Find the truth elsewhere.

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Re: 525,600

Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 2 10:28:12 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 1 13:49:27 2020.

For once, however, Chris is correct in a limited sense. Florida's case rate and death rate to not resemble New York's (not that anyone was claiming that they did - he was shooting down a straw man).



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Re: 525,600

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Aug 3 06:09:05 2020, in response to Re: 525,600, posted by Easy on Sat Aug 1 13:53:34 2020.

remove all of their clothes before entering the house

Do they have neighbors? Do they have some kind of visually shielded area in which they do this?

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Re: 525,600

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 3 15:45:39 2020, in response to 525,600, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 1 08:25:26 2020.

Are you "going out of [your] mind over this"?

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