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Who is this Karen? |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:08:15 2020 That is all. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:14:38 2020, in response to Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:08:15 2020. Karen is a pejorative for a "privileged" white woman. Its also a person indigenous to Burma. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jul 7 12:16:08 2020, in response to Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:08:15 2020. Maybe here?? |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:18:25 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jul 7 12:16:08 2020. ? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:18:50 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:14:38 2020. I don't think that all privileged white women are Karen's. Just the ones that call police on black people for being black. Maybe the woman in the first viral incident was named Karen? I don't feel like googling. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:19:21 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:14:38 2020. Ok. But there is not such thing as a privileged white |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:19:46 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:18:25 2020. Tippi Hedren, "The Birds" . Karen carpenter singing |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:20:25 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:19:46 2020. What about Karen Valentine? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:20:48 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:18:50 2020. unless you look at Google. Just a suggestion |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:20:50 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:19:21 2020. You don't think that privileged people exist? Or that white people don't exist? Or just the combination? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:21:15 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:20:25 2020. she's hiding in Room 222 |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:21:47 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:20:48 2020. When I get home. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:23:12 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:20:50 2020. White people as a whole are no more privileged than anyone else. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:23:14 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:20:50 2020. depends or your definition of privileged! Is Chelsea Clinton priviliged or was I privileged because I was able to work two jobs to get what I have now? All in the definitions |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:23:27 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:21:15 2020. LOL |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jul 7 12:33:07 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:19:46 2020. Yep. Singing the opening line to "Close to You" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:35:54 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:23:12 2020. But that doesn’t mean that there aren’t whites that feel “privileged.” |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:39:05 2020, in response to Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:08:15 2020. It is another attempt by minority people to objectify white people they dislike in a way that some minorities feel they were so objectified with insulting names.It is nasty. It is racist. And it is divisive. Back in the '60s some blacks tried to come up with a definitve insult for white people (though they already had several. So they came up with "Honkie." Noone explained what it was supposed to mean, and no one could figure it out. The New York Times opined that the closest they could come was that Honkie was an insulting name for Hungarians. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:44:39 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:39:05 2020. Of course they got better. We can understand how they come up with "cracka". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:44:43 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:39:05 2020. Of course they got better. We can understand how they come up with "cracka". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:45:52 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:39:05 2020. It has nothing to do with race. I’ve seen this term before it was applied to the Cooper incident and it referred to the kind of woman who wants to “speak to the manager.” It’s not related to race, although I now realize that most, if not all, such examples were of white women. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 12:47:51 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:39:05 2020. Hmmm. Have you ever had the cops called on you for engaging in ordinary, everyday activities that were completely legal? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Jul 7 12:49:57 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jul 7 12:16:08 2020. Lol |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 12:50:56 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:23:12 2020. So you don't think financial security that some people got from their parents is a form of privilege? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:54:33 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 12:47:51 2020. Yes, a number of times.Besides, the issues at hand is characterizing a group of people with insulting names. I'm sure you're familiar. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:55:33 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:45:52 2020. Now it has been adopted as racial. Language evolves to fit the moment. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:57:23 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:45:52 2020. That's so liberal of you |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:57:46 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:35:54 2020. What about you? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:58:31 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 12:47:51 2020. Goalposts moving. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:59:05 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:44:39 2020. Actually, cracker has a long history, and several people from the south (the first time by an Army buddy from Georgia in 1968) assured me that he wasn't insulted by the term, that it came from animal-drivers who utilized whips to "urge" that animals on.Of course, if intended as an insult, it is an insult. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:59:09 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 12:50:56 2020. Sure that's privilege. All races have that. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:59:52 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 12:39:05 2020. iawtlp |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 13:01:25 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 12:50:56 2020. Hey, the Rationalizer called Chelsea Clinton and Caroline Kennedy, privileged. He is in danger of having his liberal party id card revoked. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 7 13:30:54 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:45:52 2020. *It’s not related to race, although I now realize that most, if not all, such examples were of white women. *Generally, if it was a black woman acting in such a manner, a stereotypical black name was used as a substitute like "Shaquana/Shaniqua". Or a generic, "that crazy/ghetto black lady". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:32:11 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:18:50 2020. Yeah, that Karen is definitely a bitch in the first order. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:32:45 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 12:35:54 2020. Sure, but the reverse racism is sickening. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Jul 7 13:33:14 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:14:38 2020. It's also a fairly common female first name. I can't imagine that most people named Karen aren't fairly upset by this new internet meaning that has become attached to their name. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:33:40 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 12:50:56 2020. ????So? Black people get that too, so you are so racist that you think that Black people don't have assets to pass on? How bigoted. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:34:56 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 12:47:51 2020. Yes, but what does that have to do with grouping people with names? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 13:35:42 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 12:18:50 2020. Just the ones that call police on black people for being blackThey're called "liberals". |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 7 14:05:32 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 12:14:38 2020. So who is Becky |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 7 14:17:39 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 7 14:05:32 2020. What about Stacy? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 14:26:05 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 7 13:33:40 2020. Tell that to Bathhouse Barry and Michelle. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 7 14:27:23 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 7 12:47:51 2020. LOL |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:53:48 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:57:46 2020. No. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:54:06 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 12:50:56 2020. That's not what "white privilege" is. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 14:55:03 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jul 7 14:17:39 2020. What about Stacy's mom? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 15:01:29 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:53:48 2020. You don't feel at all privileged because of the feeling that you never have to worry about homelessness? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 7 15:06:03 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 12:23:12 2020. We are all judged by others and race and skin color can be a large part of that judgment. Those small judgments all rolled together can impactful. Not all white people are judged equally or privileged the same, but they have an advantage that non-white people will never have. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 15:07:11 2020, in response to Re: Who is this Karen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:54:06 2020. OK, ignore my other post.I think that financial security is an inherent portion of "white privilege." |
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