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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 14:31:58 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 11:57:27 2020. If you can show me, based on what I said, that I'm belittling his infirmities, I'll eat my hat. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 14:32:37 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 8 10:41:23 2020. 🙄🙄🙄 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:41:48 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 14:30:36 2020. Why? This guy obviously had balance problems. Your pretending that he voluntarily chose to walk backward is completely nonsensical. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:43:18 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 14:31:58 2020. Yes, you are saying he chose to do what he did, and that it was his fault. By implication, whenever any old codger falls, it's his own damn fault. He should have chosen to be more careful. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 14:52:03 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:41:48 2020. I think he exaggerated. Probably didn't expect to spill blood but definitely wanted to have his own police brutality moment.He wasn't totally innocent or blameless. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 14:54:48 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:43:18 2020. Stepping up was his fault.His fall was an odd overreaction and not consistent with a light push. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:47:35 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:43:18 2020. If he was 23 years old and fell, it would still be his fault. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:48:06 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 14:52:03 2020. Nobody aged 75 deliberately allows to let himself fall backward on his head. If he was faking his fall he would have spun around so that he landed on his arms.He may have been trying to make trouble by blocking the police - I have no way of knowing that. But falling backward like that deliberately would be insane - a great recipe for permanent disability, which may be what he is headed for. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:48:56 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:47:35 2020. You fool! If he was 23 he wouldn't have fallen. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:49:37 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:48:06 2020. Oy vey!🙄 |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:49:58 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:41:48 2020. He wanted to walk backwards to keep on yelling at the cop |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:51:32 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 14:54:48 2020. Stepping up was his fault.If he was interfering with the police, he should have been arrested. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:51:49 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:48:56 2020. Of course he would have! ANYONE can trip themselves up |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:52:03 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:49:58 2020. Bullshit. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:58:15 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 8 15:51:49 2020. OK, but far less likely.Anyway, you are evading the issue that the cop either should have arrested the guy for impeded the police, or else walked around him. There was no possible circumstance under which pushing him was the right thing to do. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 15:58:56 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:48:06 2020. He's not some innocent elderly man waiting in line at the buffet. He was physically confronting cops taking control of a situation.Sadly I think if this was a conflict between protesters an arrest would be made a cops would see it like you do. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 16:10:36 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 15:58:56 2020. He was physically confronting cops taking control of a situation.So if you are correct he ought to have been arrested. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 8 16:12:14 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 11:57:27 2020. New police rules: Before pushing someone to the side the police must ask for I.D. and if the person is 70 and above, they're not allowed to push him/her. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 8 16:14:23 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 16:10:36 2020. You are kidding. MAYBE THEY GAVE HIM A BREAK. Sheesh... |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 8 16:15:22 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:48:56 2020. LOL!! |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 16:33:14 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 8 16:14:23 2020. Um, which is better, being cuffed and taken to jail, or having your head cracked open and possibly being disabled for the rest of a miserable life? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 16:36:15 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 16:33:14 2020. UmI love when you say that. It sounds like the characters on Friends getting into an infantile argument. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 8 16:40:46 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 16:33:14 2020. As if they planned injure him. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 16:43:07 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 8 16:40:46 2020. No, if they had planned to injure him that would be a much more serious offense. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Jun 8 16:43:59 2020, in response to 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jun 5 16:20:44 2020. 57 Buffalo cops go round the outside, round the outside, and doe-zee-doe your partner. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 17:04:10 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 8 16:36:15 2020. What does AlM say when he meditates?Ummmmmmmm. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 8 17:31:01 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 14:12:59 2020. In a way he should not be getting in the face of anybody in frail elderly geriatric age.Let alone the police during a demonstration. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 17:37:28 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 8 17:31:01 2020. I agree.He is probably a stupid old fool. But he should have been arrested, rather than had the rest of his life likely ruined by a careless shove. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 8 18:50:43 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 17:37:28 2020. It’s unfortunate. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 01:28:30 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:58:15 2020. They had specially assigned cops who were there SPECIFICALLY assigned for that.You don't break ranks to deal with that. Those specifically assigned in the arrest teams do. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 01:28:50 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 15:52:03 2020. No, reality. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 01:49:20 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 8 17:37:28 2020. My man did the Flintstone Flop! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 07:06:27 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 01:28:30 2020. There were cops specifically assigned to push elderly people to the ground? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 07:07:01 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 01:28:50 2020. You have no understanding of what it's like to be old. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 9 08:30:19 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 07:06:27 2020. Not to the ground, but to push them aside. The man lost his balance. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 9 08:33:23 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 07:07:01 2020. And you have no understanding of what it's like to be a police officer in explosive situations. I'm just eight years younger than that man and could do almost anything I could do in my twenties. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 08:58:41 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 9 08:30:19 2020. The man lost his balance.Yes, because of the shove. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 09:00:06 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 9 08:33:23 2020. You are, but he obviously wasn't.Because of one careless act, this guy (who very well may be an obnoxious fool) is likely to be seriously disabled for the rest of his life. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 9 09:09:01 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 09:00:06 2020. Bullshit. Do you believe that "serious" condition. I'm sure that was put out by his attorney. They always say that. I never believe anything the press says, left OR right. I know. I've been involved in civil cases where there was no force or very little force involved where the lawyer said his client was hospitalized in serious condition including two cases where we released the perp on a DAT and they thanked us on leaving. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 10:17:15 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 08:58:41 2020. Lo@lm! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 10:18:02 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 07:07:01 2020. I'm in my fifties now, I realize that I cannot do some of the things I did when I was 19 years old. When I'm 75, I am not going to get in the face of a line of helmeted Riot police, and taught them and block them. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 9 10:22:04 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 10:18:02 2020. I don't disagree that the guy was a fool. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 9 10:37:49 2020, in response to Re: 57 Buffalo Cops Resign, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 9 09:09:01 2020. Yep. I was involved in newsworthy cases that literally werel nothing like the media portrayed them to be. |
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