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Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:07:09 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:04:45 2020. Not wanting to be put in the dubious position of defending AlM but he seemed to imply as much. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:07:45 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 10:54:06 2020. LOL Yes princess |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Mon Jun 1 11:08:02 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 07:40:57 2020. https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/11/books/no-regrets-for-love-explosives-memoir-sorts-war-protester-talks-life-with.html''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:09:50 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:02:12 2020. But Ayer had been the acknowledged leader of the weather underground, |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:10:37 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:07:09 2020. I know. I was contributing to the opposition to JayZee's claim that the failure of the FBI to properly investigate Ayers implies a total lack of guilt. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:13:42 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:10:37 2020. Noted |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 11:26:03 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 11:04:45 2020. A botched investigation doesn't imply lack of guilt.Nor does it imply any guilt. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 11:39:01 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 11:26:03 2020. Under the law, Ayers is not guilty.Individual people can have an opinion as to whether he is guilty of crimes under a much less precise use of the term. They can form this opinion based on news reports, etc. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jun 1 11:41:22 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 18:10:46 2020. Why are the charges federal? They should be state charges. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 11:45:28 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:05:40 2020. No, because it's none of your fucking business, fatboy. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jun 1 11:47:38 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 10:47:50 2020. To Americans they did, and they made an oath. Maybe you think overthrowing the government is legit though, but I don't know if you ever made an oath not to as these two clowns did. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:57:18 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jun 1 11:41:22 2020. The firebomb sisters from Catskill, NY were also charged with Federal crimes but their charges are far more serious because the car they tossed the Molotov cocktail into was occupied by 4 cops. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 11:58:01 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 1 11:45:28 2020. LOL - okay princess |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 12:00:33 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 11:39:01 2020. They can form this opinion based on news reports, etc.Most news reports, etc. are the result of press releases by police, prosecutors, etc. Reporters are generally lazy. Give them a press release and it will appear regurgitated without any fact checking. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 12:05:36 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 12:00:33 2020. I don't disagree, but I stand by my point.Are you honestly of the personal opinion that Ayers has never committed any felonies (understanding that he has never been convicted of one)? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 12:09:29 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 11:26:03 2020. I’m not using the botched investigation as evidence for his guilt. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 12:18:51 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Jun 1 11:41:22 2020. They can be charged by both the state and US. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 1 12:25:30 2020, in response to 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 17:27:41 2020. Lawyers can be activist assholes too.William Kunstler and Lynne Stewart come to mind. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 1 12:28:08 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 1 12:25:30 2020. William Kunstler. What an ugly man. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 12:36:38 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 1 12:28:08 2020. Yeah and Lynn Stewart was “beautiful”. |
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Posted by rkba on Mon Jun 1 12:53:45 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 10:02:38 2020. he's just like all the others. pro-riot until the riot is knocking on his door.just like those liberals that love diversity until the blockbuster is on their block. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jun 1 13:26:11 2020, in response to 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 17:27:41 2020.  Don't call them lawyers. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 14:03:46 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 1 12:05:36 2020. I'm willing to have no opinion as to whether a person committed a felony, until a trial verdict is reached. After the verdict, I may have an opinion regarding the fairness of the trial.I lived through that era and remember the FBI's infiltration of groups that its director regarded as subversive. There have been many revelations regarding how these infiltrators acted as agents provocateurs to get groups to commit felonies. |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Mon Jun 1 14:11:08 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 14:03:46 2020. Bill Ayers admitted planting bombs and is unrepentant about it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 14:48:52 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Mon Jun 1 14:11:08 2020. don't confuse bauman with facts |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 14:56:09 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Mon Jun 1 14:11:08 2020. Bill Ayers admitted planting bombs and is unrepentant about it.If you read further down in the Times book review you linked, you will find: ''Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon,'' then backs and fills, saying that he bombed it, not literally but metaphorically, as part of the Weathermen group in charge of the operation. How many of his admissions were for metaphoric bombings? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 1 15:03:03 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 12:36:38 2020. Kunstler’s spawn, Ron Kuby, is a disgusting hypocrite. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Jun 1 15:06:15 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 12:36:38 2020. hahaahahaha nah. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 15:19:24 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Stephen Bauman on Mon Jun 1 14:56:09 2020. "Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," then backs and fills, saying that he bombed it, not literally but metaphorically, as part of the Weathermen group in charge of the operation. (emphasis added) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 15:54:50 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 1 15:03:03 2020. Actually I strongly disliked both Kuntsler and Kuby. Later on I appreciated the zeal with which the represented the scum that they represented. The system created the Kuntslers and the Kubys. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 15:55:30 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 15:54:50 2020. Scum deserve representation too. Somebody’s got to do it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 15:57:27 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 15:55:30 2020. Which is, in essence, what I said. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 1 15:58:43 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 15:57:27 2020. I see. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 1 17:21:19 2020, in response to 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by DAnD124 on Sun May 31 17:27:41 2020. Lawyers can be activist assholes too.William Kunstler and Lynne Stewart come to mind. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 17:27:59 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jun 1 17:21:19 2020. Lynne Stewart definitely. She went to prison. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 1 17:37:42 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 15:54:50 2020. When Ron Kuby was on the radio show with Curtis Sliwa I couldn't stand him, not because he was liberal, but because he was very condescending. Whenever he tried to explain any part of the law, he talked as if he was talking to kindergarteners. I love the show now with Juliette Huddy. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 17:49:10 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 1 17:37:42 2020. Kuby was that. I hated him on CURTIS &Kuby |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 1 18:16:21 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 17:49:10 2020. Juliette Huddy is so nice, personable, and funny. So different than Kuby. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 1 21:10:06 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 1 18:16:21 2020. So that's where she ended up. Used to see her on the morning show on Fox and Friends (back when I watched news on TV). Not bad legs either. :) |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 1 22:31:20 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Jun 1 21:10:06 2020. On from 12-3 every afternoon on WABC 770. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jun 2 07:17:58 2020, in response to Re: 2 Brooklyn lawyers charged in Molotov cocktail attack on NYPD, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 1 17:27:59 2020. they wear the 21st century swastika?I'm sick of people rationalism and calling nazi's assholes when you got clowns trying to smash windows and concrete calling it racist. It's still a double standard. |
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