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Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020 The Washington Post. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 29 19:19:08 2020, in response to Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020. The Washington Times. If it was the post there would have been a dumb firewall. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 29 19:19:22 2020, in response to Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020. The Washington Times. If it was the post there would have been a dumb paywall. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri May 29 19:20:47 2020, in response to Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020. It could have been a deadly series of events. Had they not restrained his neck and on his stomach, he would not have died."The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death." |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:20:50 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 29 19:19:08 2020. You don't like the Washington Times? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 29 19:50:00 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:20:50 2020. Look at your post: http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1734139 |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:56:23 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 29 19:50:00 2020. I hope I did this right. I don't know what browser you're using, I'm using IE. Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: AutopsyFollow Us SearchSearch Keyword: Search SIGN UP FOR OUR DAILY NEWSLETTERS Breaking News AlertsEnter your email address: enter address… Manage Newsletters FRONT PAGE PODCAST RECOMMENDED Andrew Weissmann (right) and Kyle Freeny (center) are members of special counsel Robert Mueller's team of prosecutors investigating potential ties between Russia and Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign. Mr. Weissmann has made it clear several times that he is not on the president's side. (Associated Press/File) Mueller prosecutor held secret meetings targeting Paul Manafort before Russia probe: IG obj.0.content_object.caption Quiz: Are you a war movie expert? A health care specialist from C Company, 407th Brigade Support Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, and a combat medical technician from the British 16 Air Assault Brigade, load a British Paratrooper with simulated injuries onto a litter during Combined Joint Operational Access Exercise 15-01 on Fort Bragg, N.C., April 18, 2015. Throughout CJOAX 15-01, medical teams from both forces trained on how to seamlessly integrate their respective life saving capabilities into a multinational force. CJOAX 15-01 is the largest bilateral exercise held on Fort Bragg in almost 20 years. (Photo by Sgt. Flor Gonzalez, 22nd Mobile Public Affairs Detachment) ‘A fair chance’: Veterans blocked from civilian jobs by patchwork of red tape obj.0.content_object.caption Quiz: Can you pass a pandemics, plagues and infectious diseases test? Michigan state Rep. Karen Whitsett, center, and her husband Jason Whitsett, right, listen as President Donald Trump speaks during a meeting with people that have recovered from COVID-19, in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Tuesday, April 14, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci) Rebel Democrats in battleground states could be good sign for Trump SPONSORED CONTENT How To: Fix Dark Spots And Uneven Skin Tones How To: Fix Dark Spots And Uneven Skin Tones RECOMMENDED Powered by QUESTION OF THE DAY Will you rush to eat at restaurants when they re-open? Question of the Day YES NO NOT SURE View results STORY TOPICS LAW_CRIME GEORGE FLOYD DEREK MICHAEL CHAUVIN MINNEAPOLIS People gather at a police precinct during a protest for George Floyd in Minneapolis on Tuesday, May 26, 2020. Four Minneapolis officers involved in the arrest of the black man who died in police custody were fired Tuesday, hours after ... more > By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Friday, May 29, 2020 George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report. Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation,” according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin. “Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney. “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.” SEE ALSO: Justice Department says George Floyd death investigation is ‘a top priority’ The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Video showed he was unresponsive for the last 2 minutes and 53 seconds. “Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 19:58:25 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Joe V on Fri May 29 19:20:47 2020. Think about that...what does "any potential intoxicants" even mean? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 29 19:59:34 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 19:58:25 2020. Drugs or alcohol. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 20:27:23 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 29 19:59:34 2020. Which will they choose to claim was in Floyd's system? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 29 20:35:25 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 20:27:23 2020. How did this $20 bill turn into an arrest?How did this whole thing escalate? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 29 20:35:56 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 20:27:23 2020. Oh not sure about substances. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:19:19 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 20:27:23 2020. All it indicates is the the ME hasn't completed the official autopsy report because tox results are pending. |
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George Floyd family enlists Dr. Michael Baden to perform second autopsy |
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Posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:22:52 2020, in response to Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020. Baden |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 29 21:37:16 2020, in response to George Floyd family enlists Dr. Michael Baden to perform second autopsy, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:22:52 2020. At this point, we'll need more than two, particularly with "controversial" (per Wikipedia) Baden on the case. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 29 22:01:06 2020, in response to Re: George Floyd family enlists Dr. Michael Baden to perform second autopsy, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 29 21:37:16 2020. Well Ed Koch relieved him of his duties in 1979 or so. He got to be more than 85 years old. It probably doesn’t matter how old he is for the task at hand but when you’re around for about 60 years you’re bound to be a little controversial somewhere. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 29 22:49:12 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Joe V on Fri May 29 19:20:47 2020. THEY MURDERED HIM IN COLD BLOODFIRST DEGREE MURDER |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 29 23:40:52 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:20:50 2020. Does it matter?You saw what happened to the man, just like everyone else did. Doesn't matter what "they say killed him". What we saw was a man being murdered by 3 police officers, while one played look out. Guess your president didn't think These were "fine people",since he called them THUGs.. Guess they have to run over someone,killing them. But obviously, when the President actually says he's looking forward to seeing SHOOTINGS..its time for this scumbag to go. These phony actions by the authorities. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 29 23:58:05 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 29 23:40:52 2020. THEY MURDERED HIM IN COLD BLOODFIRST DEGREE MURDER |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 29 23:59:05 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 29 23:58:05 2020. It's murder but not first degree. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 30 00:10:07 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 29 23:58:05 2020. They had intent.They made it a point that They were going to Kill a Black man that day. See, Trump needs a country wide distraction to take the spotlight off him. What better way to do that than have the police murder someone on social media? Yet,being the person that he is, he couldn't leave well enough alone. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 30 00:32:32 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 30 00:10:07 2020. My guess is when Floyd said he can't breathe, Derek Chauvin(fascinating name) did not take it seriously and felt it was a taunt or escalation based on Garner on SI.Chauvin figured Floyd was running his mouth using a famous quote from a police brutality case and kept his knee on. Chauvin was not going to give in he figured and now he killed someone. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat May 30 01:03:16 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 30 00:10:07 2020. Welcome back, fam! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 30 05:40:56 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:19:19 2020. It doesn't take a full week for tox results to come back. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 30 05:42:17 2020, in response to George Floyd family enlists Dr. Michael Baden to perform second autopsy, posted by Dave on Fri May 29 21:22:52 2020. Good. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 05:47:28 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 30 05:40:56 2020. It can and it does. My brother used to work at the Suffolk County ME's office and he told me at times it took 2 - 3 weeks. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 05:50:18 2020, in response to Re: George Floyd family enlists Dr. Michael Baden to perform second autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 30 05:42:17 2020. I would have preferred someone other than Baden. He likes seeing his name in the news and tends to deliver the report he's paid to deliver, if you catch my meaning. But a second autopsy is warranted given the circumstances. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 30 06:09:34 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri May 29 19:58:25 2020. They key word is also "potential". There is no certainty there was any.One can also day of asphyxiation that does not leave a physical trace for an autopsy to discover: per Dr Sanjy Gupta. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 08:40:15 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Joe V on Sat May 30 06:09:34 2020. Only in this case it was mechanical asphyxiation (external pressure prevents breathing), which always leaves traces. And even when the asphyxiation is due to non-mechanical events, there are traces, i.e., evidence. "There are non-specific physical signs used to attribute death to asphyxia. These include visceral congestion via dilation of the venous blood vessels and blood stasis, petechiae, cyanosis and fluidity of the blood."https://www.tasanet.com/Knowledge-Center/Articles/ArtMID/477/ArticleID/338920/Forensic-Analysis-of-Injury-and-Death-by-Asphyxiation |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 30 10:04:06 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Dave on Sat May 30 05:47:28 2020. Don't argue with JZ. He's an expert. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 30 11:58:57 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 29 23:59:05 2020. IT SHOULD BE |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 30 11:59:16 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 30 00:10:07 2020. IAWTP |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 19:12:05 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 30 10:04:06 2020. Tox reports can came back quickly but it depends in part on how backed up the lab is, i.e., atopsies already in the pipeline. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 22:39:45 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat May 30 11:58:57 2020. Elements (a)(2) - (7) do not apply. Where's your evidence that the killing was premeditated (a)(1)? Murder, very likely, but not First Degree.2019 Minnesota Statutes 609.185 MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE. (a) Whoever does any of the following is guilty of murder in the first degree and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for life: (1) causes the death of a human being with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person or of another; (2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence, either upon or affecting the person or another; (3) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of the person or another, while committing or attempting to commit burglary, aggravated robbery, kidnapping, arson in the first or second degree, a drive-by shooting, tampering with a witness in the first degree, escape from custody, or any felony violation of chapter 152 involving the unlawful sale of a controlled substance; (4) causes the death of a peace officer, prosecuting attorney, judge, or a guard employed at a Minnesota state or local correctional facility, with intent to effect the death of that person or another, while the person is engaged in the performance of official duties; (5) causes the death of a minor while committing child abuse, when the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of child abuse upon a child and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life; (6) causes the death of a human being while committing domestic abuse, when the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of domestic abuse upon the victim or upon another family or household member and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life; or (7) causes the death of a human being while committing, conspiring to commit, or attempting to commit a felony crime to further terrorism and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life. (b) For the purposes of paragraph (a), clause (4), "prosecuting attorney" has the meaning given in section 609.221, subdivision 2, paragraph (c), clause (4). (c) For the purposes of paragraph (a), clause (4), "judge" has the meaning given in section 609.221, subdivision 2, paragraph (c), clause (5). (d) For purposes of paragraph (a), clause (5), "child abuse" means an act committed against a minor victim that constitutes a violation of the following laws of this state or any similar laws of the United States or any other state: section 609.221; 609.222; 609.223; 609.224; 609.2242; 609.342; 609.343; 609.344; 609.345; 609.377; 609.378; or 609.713. (e) For purposes of paragraph (a), clause (6), "domestic abuse" means an act that: (1) constitutes a violation of section 609.221, 609.222, 609.223, 609.224, 609.2242, 609.342, 609.343, 609.344, 609.345, 609.713, or any similar laws of the United States or any other state; and (2) is committed against the victim who is a family or household member as defined in section 518B.01, subdivision 2, paragraph (b). (f) For purposes of paragraph (a), clause (7), "further terrorism" has the meaning given in section 609.714, subdivision 1. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 30 22:45:30 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Dave on Sat May 30 22:39:45 2020. You are talking so far over his head right now that he's in danger of a brain aneurysm. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 30 22:50:43 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 30 22:45:30 2020. I know but I'm trying to be nice. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 30 23:32:13 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 30 22:45:30 2020. He's still counting his toes |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 30 23:37:02 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 30 23:32:13 2020. Salaam told me that he can count to 21 in polite company.(someone might need to explain it to him) |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 31 06:57:34 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 30 23:32:13 2020. But is he picking them in Poughkeepsie? |
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Posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:15:33 2020, in response to Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020. is this really a surprise? we see this all the time from these fat fucks.they're so lazy and out of shape that any sort of stress on their body causes it to shut down. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun May 31 13:22:33 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:15:33 2020. STFU KLNASMAN WIZARD BITCH |
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Posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:26:04 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun May 31 13:22:33 2020. how many people did you kill today, osama? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun May 31 13:26:42 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:15:33 2020. George Floyd was overweight and out of shape? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 13:40:14 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by Easy on Sun May 31 13:26:42 2020. Not to mention that people with ancestral history of near-starvation are genetically predisposed to serious obesity. People like rkba think it's laziness, but it isn't. |
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Posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:41:13 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by AlM on Sun May 31 13:40:14 2020. al, you don't "sound smart" just by throwing words around.why are you so god damn dumb, al? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 13:45:00 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:41:13 2020. I wouldn't expect you to understand how natural selection works. |
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Posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:45:51 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by AlM on Sun May 31 13:45:00 2020. you're talking about something that's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.why don't you go break some windows outside, i'm sure that'll let the anger out. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 31 13:47:44 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by rkba on Sun May 31 13:45:51 2020. you're talking about something that's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.Sorry to hear that you are having cognitive decline. You just brought it up. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 31 14:06:57 2020, in response to Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 29 19:17:37 2020. If not asphyxiation, how did he die? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun May 31 15:21:18 2020, in response to Re: Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 31 14:06:57 2020. It doesn't matter if Floyd had "intoxicants" in his system or not. If "restraint by the police" is a "contributing factor", then Chauvin is legally responsible. In other words, but for Chauvin's actions, Floyd wouldn't have died.I rewatched that horrifying video. Chauvin keeps his knee on Floyd's neck for eight minutes and fifty seconds. He keeps his knee on Floyd's neck for a full three minutes after Floyd stops moving or breathing. Even after another cop checks for a pulse, Chauvin doesn't take his knee off Floyd's neck. That suggests wanton intent on Chauvin's part. They are trying to twist this any way they can to avoid a conviction. |
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