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“If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:22:41 2020

Go ahead, White Joe: dictate to a black man whether he is black or not.

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Biden: ‘If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black’

By Quint Forgey
05/22/2020 09:53 AM EDT
Former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday emphatically defended his ties to the African American community — telling a popular black radio personality that he “ain’t black” if he was still weighing whether to support Biden or President Donald Trump in November’s general election.

The remarks from the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee came during an at-times contentious interview on “The Breakfast Club” that aired Friday morning, during which co-host Charlamagne tha God challenged Biden over his decadeslong record on racial issues and current contemplation of a black, female running mate.

“I’m not acknowledging anybody who is being considered, but I guarantee you, there are multiple black women being considered. Multiple,” Biden said of his search process for a vice presidential nominee.

It was then that an aide to the Biden campaign could be heard interjecting into the conversation, attempting to cut short the interview. “Thank you so much. That’s really our time. I apologize,” the aide said.

“You can’t do that to black media!” Charlamagne retored.

“I do that to white media and black media because my wife has to go on at 6 o’clock,” Biden shot back, apparently referring to a subsequent media appearance by Jill Biden, before adding: “Uh oh. I’m in trouble.”

“Listen, you’ve got to come see us when you come to New York, VP Biden,” Charlamagne said. “It’s a long way until November. We’ve got more questions.”

“You’ve got more questions?” Biden replied. “Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

Charlamagne explained that “it don’t have nothing to do with Trump, it has to do with the fact [that] I want something for my community.” But Biden remained adamant in promoting what he described as a career of public service devoted to advancing civil rights.

“Take a look at my record, man! I extended the Voting Rights [Act] 25 years. I have a record that is second-to-none,” he said. “The NAACP’s endorsed me every time I’ve run. I mean, come on. Take a look at the record.”

During the Democratic presidential primary, “The Breakfast Club” developed into a popular pit stop for White House contenders, who sat for interviews on the New York-based, nationally syndicated hip-hop morning show and spoke candidly about the state of the race and their agenda for African Americans.

Like many other media outlets eschewed by the Biden campaign throughout the primary contest, the former vice president did not appear on the program until after vanquishing his rivals for the party’s nomination.

On Thursday, Biden faced an intent line of questioning from Charlamagne, who pressed him on his reluctance to concede that the 1994 crime bill “was damaging to the black community.”

As a U.S. senator from Delaware, Biden helped author and shepherd the far-reaching legislation through Congress. The crime bill has long been accused of disproportionately targeting marginalized communities and people of color.

Although the crime bill dogged Biden’s presidential candidacy in the early stages of the 2020 primary, he refused Thursday to apologize for it and even insisted that Hillary Clinton, the previous Democratic presidential nominee, should not have expressed regret for her advocacy of the measure in 2016.

“She was wrong. What happened was, it wasn’t the crime bill. It was the drug legislation. It was the institution of mandatory minimums,” Biden said, pointing to other factors he claimed had produced levels of mass incarceration in the United States.

Biden also sought to respond to concerns among African Americans that Democratic politicians take their votes for granted by referencing his overwhelming support in the black community, which was largely credited for contributing to his comeback primary victory.

“They’re the folks [who], as they say it my way, ‘Brung me to the dance.’ That’s how I get elected every single time,” he said, imploring Charlamagne: “Come on man, give me a little break here. This is where I come from.”

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:25:03 2020, in response to “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:22:41 2020.

How is this different than when you call people self hating Jews?

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri May 22 12:26:21 2020, in response to “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:22:41 2020.

.................................................................OK

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:27:36 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:25:03 2020.

When Olag runs for president, you can surely remind him of that

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:29:30 2020, in response to “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:22:41 2020.

And so comes to an end the long and not so illustrious political career of one, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. Shot himself in the back of the head

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:34:02 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:25:03 2020.

Thanks for admitting you're both racist and antisemitic, never mind fond of red herrings and/or getting personal (see below).

Anyone who embraces left-wing politics (that stipulate abolition of family, private property, religion and national borders) is self-hating. Given the history of people like Karl Marx (descendant of a chief rabbi of Trier, Germany), the rejection of Jewish culture on the part of Jews is a sore point among Jews. (My late father was a Jew, but not self-hating.)

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:34:11 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:27:36 2020.

Some guy running for president did talk like that.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:36:10 2020, in response to “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:22:41 2020.

Let's not jump to no conclusions here. We need AlM, The Rationalizer to splain to us what Biden dun meant to say.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:36:28 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:27:36 2020.

Remind me of what?

Do you have to be a full Jew to remind left-wing Jews not to reject their heritage in favor of godless leftism?

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:37:17 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:27:36 2020.

Remind me of what?

Do you have to be a full Jew to remind left-wing Jews not to reject their heritage in favor of godless leftism?

Never mind that this fellow shows his contempt for both Jews and blacks by posting a red herring and not addressing this matter directly—it's about Biden, not me.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:38:05 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:29:30 2020.

Seth Rich reference noted.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:38:44 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:36:10 2020.

Well, Biden himself said he was "jesting" or something. But many a true word is spoken in jest, so that won't save him.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:38:49 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:34:11 2020.

In the context, I'd agree with him although it was not a brilliant comment.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:38:53 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:36:28 2020.

You're not any kind of Jew.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:39:30 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:38:53 2020.

That is one of your more ignorant comments

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:40:32 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:38:49 2020.

It reeks of the old "dual loyalties" slur.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:41:55 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:39:30 2020.

Have you seen Olog's opinion on Rabbinic Judaism?

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:42:37 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:39:30 2020.

No, it isn't. It's extremely informed. Olog-Goy is no Jew.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:43:27 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:40:32 2020.

Hardly. "It's all about the Benjamins!" Her comments are anti-Semitic whether they are aimed at Israel or at American Jews. She plays no favorites.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:44:30 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:37:17 2020.

Do you have to be a full Jew to remind left-wing Jews not to reject their heritage in favor of godless leftism?

WTF is a "full Jew?"

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:45:05 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:41:55 2020.

No and I don't really care to. I don't rate the level of Judaism in people nor how black people are other than my meager 1/16 African-American heritage.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:45:13 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:38:44 2020.

And yet when your fearless leader says something profoundly foolish, you claim that he's jesting and have no problem with that explanation.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:45:18 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:39:30 2020.

What Olog think's about Jews

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 22 12:46:31 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:36:10 2020.

I can’t wait

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:46:46 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:43:27 2020.

She is not the personification of Democrats. You can’t agree with a party all of the time.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:47:26 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:43:27 2020.

They're throwing more red herrings, I see. Can't address Biden's words.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:48:51 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:45:18 2020.

Thanks for that.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:49:07 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:45:18 2020.

Really, I don't care. According to one of my cousins in Florida, I'm barely a Jew. I don't speak Hebrew, don't go to Temple and I'm married to a Goy. But in my heart, I am a Jew. I don't rate other's amount of Judaism in others and I don't want mine measured.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:50:21 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:46:46 2020.

She was not censured for her remarks despite the outrage for them.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by AlM on Fri May 22 12:50:28 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:45:18 2020.

Ah, he's gotten more careful about what he posts in recent years.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:50:37 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 12:47:26 2020.

Yes, Train Dude’s mention of Omar is a red herring.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:51:20 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:49:07 2020.

Nobody goes to Temple; it was torn down.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:53:32 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:50:37 2020.

There's that comprehension thing again. I responded to the comment being raised in a #whataboutism regarding President Trump. You really need to do something about your comprehension or the lazy crafting of your responses.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by AlM on Fri May 22 12:54:16 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:51:20 2020.

I've heard lots of Reform Jews talking about going to Temple.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:54:44 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:51:20 2020.

WASP. In my younger days I went to Temple Shalom in Bellerose, Queens

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Posted by DAnD124 on Fri May 22 12:56:25 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:53:32 2020.



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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:58:56 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by AlM on Fri May 22 12:54:16 2020.

I know. But if you ask an Orthodox Jew if he's ever been to Temple, he'll say no, unless he has been to Temple University. Reform Jews have a specific reason for calling their houses of worship a "temple", but I don't like that they convinced people that that it fills out the analogy Christian:Church::Jew: or Muslim:Mosque::Jew:.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:59:20 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:54:44 2020.

TINO.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:03:02 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:59:20 2020.

Yup, I was a huge fan when he played with the Yankees

Tino, Tino, Tino

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:07:01 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:49:07 2020.

I wasn't the one who brought up anything having to do with Jews.

This thread is about Biden and what he said about blacks.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:13:18 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:07:01 2020.

Yes, I know that.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:26:26 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:13:18 2020.

DAnD brought up Jews in his first response to the original post.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 22 13:27:41 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:03:02 2020.





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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:28:26 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:26:26 2020.

Yes he did. Kinda shows his character.

I'm still waiting for the left to address the OP directly and not use red herrings.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 22 13:29:02 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:45:13 2020.

+45

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:33:04 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 22 12:45:13 2020.

LOL, making things up again?

There's nothing Trump said that's comparable to this.

Another red herring. Address this directly.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:34:11 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri May 22 13:29:02 2020.

No; he's utterly wrong. Not only is he using a red herring (again), but this is not about Trump, who didn't say anything in this category.

I don't want to think of you as easily fooled by logical fallacies, but your responses make me wonder.

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:42:10 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:28:26 2020.

The left here will do what the left here always does. They will hear no evil, see no evil and speak no evil. By tomorrow it'll be, "who, what when?"

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 13:42:10 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 22 13:28:26 2020.

The left here will do what the left here always does. They will hear no evil, see no evil and speak no evil. By tomorrow it'll be, "who, what when?"

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Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 22 15:08:35 2020, in response to Re: “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump…you ain’t black”—Biden2black man, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 22 12:29:30 2020.

Yep. How the hell does a 77 year old white man tell anyone what it means to be Black and incapable of independent thinking? He keeps digging deeper & deeper. If I had a buck for every cringing democrat today, I'd be a rich man.
Its time for Mrs Biden to tell Joe to & stay home in his basement with a blanket on his lap with a cup of hot chocolate!.

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