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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by #4SeaBeachFred* on Mon Jan 8 17:59:40 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 7 22:51:43 2024.* Nice try Eddie but you're still a sad and sorry piece of humanity.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Mon Jan 8 18:01:23 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 17:49:22 2024.* DILLIGAS?
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by #4SeaBeachFred* on Mon Jan 8 18:04:56 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 8 17:28:22 2024.* The difference between the two of us Eddie is that I read the shit you send me and laugh my ass off. Know why? Because to me if sometimes becomes a game to see who can get someone else's goat. I get yours but you do not get mine. In fact I laughed my ass off reading your last missive. I'll bet you never laughed at any of my posts. There's the difference Eddie. I can take it and you cannot. Lighten up.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Mon Jan 8 18:04:58 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 8 18:01:23 2024.* Apparently not.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Jan 8 18:08:47 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 17:50:32 2024.* None of them are shit holes; they are both among the richest states.
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Posted by #4SeaBeachFred* on Mon Jan 8 18:09:13 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jan 8 17:28:29 2024.* Again Jeff, I also called San Francisco and Hell LA shitholes because I know what those cities have become, but unfortunately you cannot do the same for your city out of stubborn pride or whatever. And you don't even live in New York City as I don't live in Hell LA or Frisco. And let's keep this straight. LA and SF are shitholes; the rest of California is a haven. Now admit that NY has problems up the gazoo and ease our conscience a bit. Honesty is good for the soul.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by #4SeaBeachFred* on Mon Jan 8 18:15:54 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jan 8 17:44:03 2024.* See, we can all lighten up a little. I don't hate New York City!!!! I was born here and enjoy visiting the town a couple of times a year. After 2019 I didn't come again because of the pandemic but hope to come this summer for a week or two. All this back and forth has gotten a little out of hand. Time for a time out.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by #4SeaBeachFred* on Mon Jan 8 18:21:11 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 8 17:46:39 2024.* It's been on the news shows for months now but since you probably watch CNN or MSNBC you don't get that info because they never show it. My stations overplay it so I get a full lowdown, some of which I'm sure is overdone. I also didn't expect to get all you New Yorkers on my case but at least things are not dull on this board. The fact is I like to visit New York. I love your restaurants, theaters, subways, and, yes, I do get along with the people there very well despite my written persona on this board. It's an election year so some of us are getting emotional very early. Have a nice week AIM.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jan 8 18:24:23 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 18:21:11 2024.* I'd have to save up some money if I ever wanted to visit Katz's again. I used to think it was robbery paying $10 or more for one of their pastrami sandwiches, but now I miss those days . . .
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Jan 8 18:25:55 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 18:21:11 2024.* Why do conservatives always assume that liberals must watch CNN or MSNBC? We don’t watch cable “news”. Those channels provide entertainment, not news.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Jan 8 18:29:19 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 7 17:53:43 2024.* I'm pissed too. Buyden ran on a campaign of fixing the situation, and instead his secretary killed off about 2 million people and did nothing - but sneak money into Hamas' hands.
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Jan 8 18:32:00 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jan 7 20:17:33 2024.* I didn't see anyone do anything. Some countries have funds to help the orphans of Covid. If you're not in California, it sounds like you are being ignored in the us.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off…
Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Jan 8 18:35:50 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 7 11:01:04 2024.* About what?
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Posted by Jimmymc25* on Mon Jan 8 18:38:46 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 8 18:04:58 2024.* Jeff is on a roll man and I don’t blame him. In fact, I agree with him 1000%!
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Re: I Am Pissed Off…
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Mon Jan 8 18:40:55 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off…, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 8 18:35:50 2024.* The plandemic.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by AlM* on Mon Jan 8 18:53:05 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 18:21:11 2024.* you probably watch CNN or MSNBC No, I don't. I live here and observe for myself.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by Train Dude* on Mon Jan 8 19:18:27 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 7 17:53:43 2024.* 4 years - time to get over it.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Mon Jan 8 20:18:17 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 8 19:18:27 2024.* Never.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by 3-9* on Tue Jan 9 01:12:06 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 18:21:11 2024.* I don't watch CNN or MSNBC except as occasional clips on YouTube, and usually not about NYC. Yes, I've heard the news that immigrants are piling up in NYC and the system is being stretched to the breaking point. But that doesn't mean you'll walk down the street and find a bunch of illegal immigrants camped out on the sidewalk every time you turn your head. Rats and homeless people (who are not necessarily illegal immigrants) have been problems for decades. You can still visit restaurants, theaters, and the subway. Despite the budget cuts, the city hasn't gone completely to shit yet. Use your own eyes to see, don't depend on Newsmax or the equivalent to tell you.
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Posted by 3-9* on Tue Jan 9 01:27:34 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 17:15:37 2024.* You know why it's untenable for so many people? The rent is too fucking high, period!
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by 3-9* on Tue Jan 9 02:16:05 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 18:09:13 2024.* Of course NYC isn't perfect. It's got homeless, it's got rats, it's so hard for regular folks that they need charity. But that doesn't mean it's nearly as bad as it was during the fiscal crisis.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Jan 9 03:35:33 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 8 18:08:47 2024.* For now....
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by Edwards!* on Tue Jan 9 03:35:36 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 8 17:59:40 2024.* Don't care how you feel about What I said. It's the Truth,so fuck your feelings.
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Re: I Am Not Panicking
Posted by Edwards!* on Tue Jan 9 03:39:10 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 8 18:32:00 2024.* You were far too busy trying to get your GI Joe w/t Kung Fu Grip back to notice. Did you at least get Robin The Boy Wonder back? She must be one tough cookie.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Jan 9 03:53:22 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Jan 8 18:29:19 2024.* Richard I'd showing the size tits he wants
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 08:12:59 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 8 19:18:27 2024.* I'm pissed off that you weren't pissed off.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by AlM* on Tue Jan 9 08:14:48 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 7 11:01:04 2024.* I feel sad for you that you are pissed off.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 09:13:34 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 9 08:14:48 2024.* You have a political agenda.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Jan 9 09:45:38 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 9 01:27:34 2024.* Which is of course a function of high demand. If NYC were really a shithole, no one would want to live here. Rents aren’t high in Detroit.
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Posted by Peter Rosa* on Tue Jan 9 10:11:02 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 9 09:45:38 2024.* Rents are high in New York because of rent regulation.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by AlM* on Tue Jan 9 10:44:57 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 09:13:34 2024.* Yep. I want people to stay healthy and also stay employed.
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Posted by AlM* on Tue Jan 9 10:48:38 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Jan 9 10:11:02 2024.* TNHIW. Rents are lower because of regulation. Supply is kept down by regulation. Also, that is only a fully sound economic argument if all rents are regulated. But rents on new construction are not regulated at all. So you can't actually demonstrate that rent regulation is reducing supply. I would say that NYC's excessive regulation of new construction (zoning, Buildings Department rules, etc.), not related to rents, is reducing supply.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Jan 9 10:56:40 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 9 10:48:38 2024.* Rent regulation increases the rent on unregulated units, but the average rent should be roughly the same. Rents on new construction are occasionally regulated. There are tax incentives whereby landlords get a tax break for agreeing to participate in rent stabilization for new construction.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 11:30:55 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 9 10:44:57 2024.* So it was worth the sacrifice to you?
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Jan 9 11:46:26 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 7 11:01:04 2024.* WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS ANGRY
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Posted by AlM* on Tue Jan 9 11:59:02 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 9 10:56:40 2024.* Rents on new construction are occasionally regulated. There are tax incentives whereby landlords get a tax break for agreeing to participate in rent stabilization for new construction. Any voluntary regulation should not have an impact on supply, except perhaps increasing supply. If an entity chooses to build a building and accept regulation, what does that mean? - Maybe they would not have built the building in the absence of the incentives and the regulation. In that case, the regulations INCREASED supply, an outcome totally contrary to that usually made about rent regulations. - Maybe they would have built the building anyway. In that case, the regulations had no effect on supply. So all in all, the argument that rent regulation reduces supply is a very weak one, because it does not work for new construction. It only works if regulation is so onerous as to induce abandonment, which is a difficult argument to make in NYC given how little vacant land and unoccupied buildings there are.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Tue Jan 9 12:15:40 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 9 11:46:26 2024.* Not always.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Jan 9 12:30:08 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 9 12:15:40 2024.* I HOPE THIS MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Jan 9 12:30:12 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 9 12:15:40 2024.* I HOPE THIS MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by AlM* on Tue Jan 9 12:35:54 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 11:30:55 2024.* Absolutely. My wife and I stayed healthy, which was of critical importance. And I have stayed very productively employed. (She is retired.) I also have been contributing just as much to the economy. The contributions have been in different places to a slight degree but not much. I was never a big spender in Midtown when I was there every day.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Jan 9 12:36:40 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 11:30:55 2024.* Wow, good thing you weren't around during WWII when everything was rationed. You'd have been really pissed off!! Then again you might have been sleeping in a foxhole you dug earlier with bombs and machine gun fire all around you.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Jan 9 12:46:52 2024, in response to Re: I Am Not Panicking, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 9 11:59:02 2024.* The effect it has on supply is that it decreases turnover. In the absence of regulation, people who can afford it might move to a bigger or better apartment. But the opportunity cost of abandoning a rent stabilized unit is too high. This prevents the cheap unit from being available to the low end. Given the fixed costs of construction, low end housing is disfavored in new construction. This was always true, and one solution was housing that decayed into lower end housing years after construction. This is actually why they do those tax incentives: otherwise no one would bother.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 13:09:41 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 9 12:30:08 2024.* Yes. Here is my boyhood hero.
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 13:10:50 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 9 12:36:40 2024.* That's a different story. WW2 was real.
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Re: I Am Pissed Off
Posted by AlM* on Tue Jan 9 13:44:09 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 13:10:50 2024.* The 1.2 million dead people are real too.
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 13:53:05 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 9 13:44:09 2024.*
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Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Jan 9 13:55:17 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 13:09:41 2024.*
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Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Jan 9 13:59:18 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by chicagoMotorman on Tue Jan 9 13:09:41 2024.*
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 14:04:57 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 9 13:55:17 2024.*
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Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Tue Jan 9 14:05:25 2024, in response to Re: I Am Pissed Off, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jan 9 13:59:18 2024.*
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