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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Feb 23 11:06:44 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 10:27:18 2020.

It's the scummy democrats who have convinced 2 generations of youth that they MUST go to college to specialize in courses of study where there is no market for the skills they are taught. It is also the scummy democrats that put the government into the business of financing of useless college educations

The Greatest Generation went to college (or vocational schools) because the government paid them to go as part of the WWII GI Bill. The government paid for both their tuition and living costs. That money was well spent. It enabled that generation earn far more than their parents. They earned so much more that their taxes paid for the program.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 11:07:49 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Feb 23 08:43:21 2020.

Sure there would be. More money in the hands of the people=more money spent on the products and services of businesses. As for taxes, since taxes are on profit, not on aggregate revenue, it means that investments are effectively subsidized. IOW, you literally save money on taxes by investing money in your business instead of taking profit.

Trickle up works. Trickle down doesn’t.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 11:12:12 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Feb 23 09:07:40 2020.

More people live in Brooklyn and Queens than in all of Norway.

Anyway, the typical Trumpenproletarian doesn’t know what any of that is except that it’s “nerd stuff,” and that ‘Murica needs to build real stuff like tanks.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 23 11:12:22 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 11:07:49 2020.

Thank you

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 11:14:51 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 23 08:08:52 2020.

Excellent post.

ntrainride isn’t white. He’s a shit person. No reason to malign the white race by including him within its ranks.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Feb 23 11:20:04 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 22 21:43:20 2020.

Trump will save us all from them.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 11:22:21 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 23 10:56:32 2020.

Stalks? Claims from a dowager who also swears that she fled from Elmont because all of the men there aggressively sought her sexually? Really little rat boy?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 11:23:20 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Feb 23 11:06:44 2020.

Hardly the same as what I am pointing to.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Feb 23 11:39:02 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 11:23:20 2020.

Hardly the same [benefit of education] as what I am pointing to.

It's precisely to what you are pointing. There were naysayers to the GI Bill. They complained about paying returning veterans to go to the University of Miami to learn basket weaving.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 11:47:55 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Feb 23 11:39:02 2020.

The GI Bill was earned - in many cases, painfully and at a high price.

One of my grand daughters is in the military serving on a combat vessel. When she leaves the military she will have earned a government funded education. In what way does that compare to some doper studying mass communications at ASU deserve a government funded education?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 23 12:24:16 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 11:22:21 2020.

Yes stalker

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 12:33:54 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Feb 23 08:10:41 2020.

Not that it matters but he was replying to Piglet, not you.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Feb 23 12:50:21 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 23 11:47:55 2020.

A higher education's value does not depend on the mechanism by which the tuition was paid.

One of my grand daughters is in the military serving on a combat vessel. When she leaves the military she will have earned a government funded education.

That's the reverse of the situation 50+ years ago. One went to college to avoid serving in the military on a combat vessel. :=)

In what way does that compare to some doper studying mass communications at ASU deserve a government funded education?

There are substance abusers in the miltary. Military binge drinker abuse incidence is higher than the civilian population. The detrimental effects of substance abuse are independent of the substance's legality.

I don't know whether your objection is to the course of study (mass communications) or the university (ASU).

I could understand the university objection were it for a for-profit institution like the University of Phoenix. For-profit schools have been cited for ripping off the students with exaggerated claims and exorbitant student loans. A disproportionate share of their victims have been GI's.



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 23 16:00:23 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 10:56:11 2020.

You can emigrate anywhere, but DON'T come here!

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:22:07 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 23 16:00:23 2020.

Nonsensical response.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:26:19 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 10:56:11 2020.

I’m sick of the right wing “you can emigrate anywhere” fallacy.

When is Whoopi moving to Canada?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:28:42 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:26:19 2020.

See what I mean?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:31:29 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:28:42 2020.

You just lost to me.

She said she would expat if Trump won.

Many said they would.



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:34:10 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:31:29 2020.

And you, who believes unlimited emigration is possible, are harping on it.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:48:23 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:34:10 2020.

?

No. I believe I'm quoting Whoopi and many others who promised to expatriate the US if Trump won.

You're losing this argument.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:51:04 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:48:23 2020.

No, I’m not. You’re bolstering it for me by complaining that people didn’t emigrate even though they supposedly promised to. I’m the one who’s saying emigration is difficult. Your examples of non-emigrants only helps my argument.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:57:13 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:51:04 2020.

No. These high profile people, many Hollywood elites, promised to leave.

"America. Love it or leave it" is a solid arguing point.

Many people expatriate.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:58:21 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:57:13 2020.

1. And they can’t leave. Thanks for proving my point.

2. No, it’s not.

3. Who?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:01:58 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:26:19 2020.

What makes you think she has enough points under the Canadian system to qualify for permanent residency there?

Does she speak French (very important)?



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:06:06 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:58:21 2020.

1. And they can’t leave. Thanks for proving my point.

why can't they move to another country? Ordinary people retire and expat to places like Ecuador and other countries.

2. No, it’s not

Yes it makes so much sense.

3. Who?

anyone who wants to. It's usually for financial reasons as opposed to political. I doubt people leave over a POTUS result but places like Ecuador and Mexico are attracting retired Americans. Costa Rica, Panama, and Belize too.

Here's a List of People who should expat:

AlM, dand124, salaam, Olog, Spider-Pig, WMATA, Express Rider, SUBWAYMAN, JayZeeBMT, Railman, 3-9, ChrisR16



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:08:00 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:01:58 2020.

She barely speaks English.

I'm tuning in to The View to get myself riled up for election season.

She probably could go to Mexico but Liberals, you know.

(notice Al is in liberal)

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 19:10:38 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:06:06 2020.

Yeah, third world shithole countries are easier to emigrate to.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:19:05 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:06:06 2020.

Why should I emigrate? Just because a disgusting human being is President?



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:20:29 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 19:10:38 2020.

the countries people like Whoopi and the Left defend in arguments about immigration.

The the hypocrisy of Leftism.

Oh, cortelyounext, Fred G, and JAYMAN would make great expats.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 19:21:24 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:20:29 2020.

They don’t defend the shithole countries, they defend the people coming from there.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 19:21:55 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:19:05 2020.

Good point. If you endured Obama you should coast through the Trump years.



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 19:28:05 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Feb 23 07:39:13 2020.

Or to mention, they are smaller than one of our small states

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 19:28:59 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Feb 23 07:39:13 2020.

Not to mention they are smaller than some of our small states

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 19:41:29 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 10:56:11 2020.

Yet the Democrats expe t everyone to be able to come here

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 19:43:34 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 19:41:29 2020.

Yes, they do. It’s fucking bullshit. And it is why Trump will win again. No one wants unlimited immigration.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:52:43 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 19:43:34 2020.

It's a lie that will get revoked for the general.



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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 20:06:08 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:51:04 2020.

Well then she should not have made such a comment. Quoting what she said shouldn't be a problem

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 20:09:42 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:58:21 2020.

Then they shouldn't say something so dumb. They can just say it, but you have a problem when someone wonders when they didn't make good on their promise?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 20:19:04 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:19:05 2020.

Whoopie said it. Other asshole Hollywood Leftists said it. Yell at her. Yell at them.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 20:20:20 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:01:58 2020.

¿????????????

She said it. You are telling at him for asking about what SHE said?

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 20:26:59 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 19:43:34 2020.

Well the party went in that direction, and yes, it's why Trump will win again. They learned nothing from 2016.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Feb 23 20:33:34 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 23 19:52:43 2020.

Head in sand.

In any event, in Nevada the extremists took over the party.samders and Warren, the socialists got almost 60% of the vote!

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 23 23:15:21 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:22:07 2020.

I like it! We're too full!

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 23:23:20 2020, in response to Feel the Bern, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 22 17:57:55 2020.

Bernie supporters;

AlM
Clear
Spider
Dand
Salaam
3-9
Nilet
Scrabbleship
Bringing
Jayzeebmt
Fred G
Express Rider

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 23:27:54 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 23:23:20 2020.

You’re an idiot.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 24 00:08:46 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 23:27:54 2020.

You’re an idiot.

who did I forget?


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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 24 00:30:39 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 11:12:12 2020.

it's pretty funny how you consider yourself an elitist. i see guys like you on the subway all the time: unkempt, smelly, oblivious, sitting in a corner seat, mumbling to yourself, afraid to look anyone in the eye.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 24 00:38:08 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 23 18:51:04 2020.

yes. you, and others of your ilk cannot be trusted to affirm the veracity of what you pronounce. you, and others of your ilk seem to think that everyone else is just as full of shit as you/they are.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 24 00:44:24 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 23 18:57:13 2020.

can you imagine how long he would last in china, or in russia?

after no more than a week the result of his being there would be a bullet into his "brain" and the body tossed to the hounds.

and you're right; not a one of those cowardly pussies moved anywhere.

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Re: Feel the Bern

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 24 00:59:50 2020, in response to Re: Feel the Bern, posted by ntrainride on Mon Feb 24 00:44:24 2020.

nor would they live in Brentwood LI.

Yes the Left is angry and irrational in their arguments against Trump.

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