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Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory
Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020 A state representative from Birmingham filed a bill Thursday that would require Alabama men to get a vasectomy once they reach 50 years old or father three children, “whichever comes first.” The legislation by state Rep. Rolanda Hollis, D-Birmingham, says that a man will have to pay for the vasectomy “at his own expense." “The vasectomy bill is to help with the reproductive system, and yes, it is to neutralize the abortion ban bill ... it always takes two to tango," she said. “We can’t put all the responsibility on women. Men need to be responsible also.” Hollis explained that she is “both” pro-life and pro-choice. “I do not believe that women should use abortion as a birth control, but I do believe that if a women is raped or if it’s incest or anything like that, then she has the choice to do what she wants to do.” “Under existing law, there are no restrictions on the reproductive rights of men,” reads the legislation’s synopsis. “This bill would require a man to undergo a vasectomy within one month of his 50th birthday or the birth of his third biological child, whichever comes first.” In a similar fashion to Hollis, state Sen. Vivian Davis Figures, D-Mobile, tried to address what she saw as hypocrisy on the abortion ban bill by adding an amendment making it a felony for a man to have a vasectomy. The amendment failed.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Mon Feb 17 10:20:41 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020.* Don't like it when the government tries to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own body, do you? That's what both Hollis and Figures are pointing out here.
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Feb 17 10:25:54 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 17 10:20:41 2020.* A) Huh? B) Huh?
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Mon Feb 17 10:31:10 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:25:54 2020.* Reading is fundamental. Go take another look at your OP. If you didn't post this because you found it disturbing, then why is it there?
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Feb 17 10:35:58 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 17 10:31:10 2020.* I read mine, I don't see what you say has something to do with it. Please, explain ghetto culture to me so I can make the connection that is not there.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Mon Feb 17 10:51:04 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020.* Clearly an anti-woman bill. If this comes to be law, the women in the 17% industry, might have their future earnings severely cut with the absence of victimizable males. This bill also could be seen as racist since it would seem to target just certain segments of society.
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Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Mon Feb 17 10:51:14 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020.* It wasn't meant to be a serious bill. She filed the bill to prove a point. “This is to neutralize the abortion ban bill,” Hollis wrote in a tweet. (New York Post)
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Feb 17 10:53:47 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 17 10:51:14 2020.* It wasn't meant to be a serious bill. OBS doesn't get jokes.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Feb 17 10:58:18 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020.* Doesn't this smack of forced sterilization?
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Feb 17 11:02:52 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020.* Hollis explained that she is “both” pro-life and pro-choice Ah, the joys of doublethink.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Feb 17 11:03:47 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 17 10:58:18 2020.* Duh!
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Feb 17 11:26:50 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 17 10:51:14 2020.* She's as stupid as jayzeebmt and AIM combined then(which should win you an award). What does an abortion and some type of Chinese 3 child policy have to do with each other? What is the equivocation? Nothing at all. I doubt anyone I know who has 12 kids would see the similarity either. The only thing "funny" about this bill is that there are people who think we're all running around with 3 baby mama's. That's where AIM needs to go f himself.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Feb 17 11:29:33 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 17 10:51:04 2020.* But if it targeted whites only? No, not racist at all.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Feb 17 11:32:29 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 17 10:51:14 2020.* So you're actually making excuses for this psychopath? Filing frivolous bills to boot. Stop being a liberal already.
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Posted by ClearAspect* on Mon Feb 17 11:36:08 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 17 11:32:29 2020.* Dont make fun of him because you lack the ability to read olokkk
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Feb 17 11:46:46 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 17 10:58:18 2020.* Yeah but it's probably covered in the good n plenty clause of the constitution.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Feb 17 11:55:28 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 17 11:36:08 2020.* Aww, is this your defense of forced vasectomies, streetcarnazi? You get one first, then. Hollis was in earnest when she filed that bill. Particularly when it's "in response to the abortion ban bill" as she claims.
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Feb 17 12:05:42 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 17 11:55:28 2020.* It takes a big education gap to explain a policy by pointing a finger at a completely unrelated law. Strike that. It takes a real lack of maturity too.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Mon Feb 17 14:49:28 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 17 11:29:33 2020.* Yes but this seemed to target the race of the indiscriminate procreators and the women who collect multiple 17% stipends from each of their baby daddies.
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Feb 17 15:00:15 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020. ALABAMA !!!!!!!!!! WILL NEVER LIVE THERE
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Mon Feb 17 15:58:16 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 17 14:49:28 2020.* I don't know if the statistic is true, but the Mayor of her city called it the "4th blackest city in America", quote. Given a lower growth southern state, it's probably that statistic for the state I would assume. Either way you are right that it is a racist bill.
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Posted by Dyre Dan* on Mon Feb 17 20:49:17 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:25:54 2020.* It's pretty obvious. Anti-abortion laws attempt to exert state control over women's reproductive systems. Women generally don't like that. These laws (which are not actually meant to pass) attempt to exert state control over men's reproductive systems. The point is to make men think about that and say "No, I don't like that" also.
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Mon Feb 17 20:55:41 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Feb 17 20:49:17 2020.* Killing "sperm" in semen is not the same as a baby.
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Mon Feb 17 20:57:18 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 17 10:53:47 2020.* Mr rationalization speaks!!
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Mon Feb 17 20:58:15 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 17 11:55:28 2020.* Not to mention forced sterilization does not compare.
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Mon Feb 17 21:00:13 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 17 11:03:47 2020.* Of course. But who is looking to force sterilize women. It's nature that men can reproduce into old age and women can't, not anything that was forced on women
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Feb 17 21:21:58 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 17 10:20:41 2020.* Remember what James Brown said...
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Posted by ClearAspect* on Mon Feb 17 22:57:01 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Feb 17 20:58:15 2020.* It seems things go over conservatives heads easily these days. Here we have chris siding with inbred head and inbred boy.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 17 23:03:22 2020, in response to Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 17 10:18:18 2020.* how many men over 50 are fathering children anyway? This woman is UNFUCKABLE knows she is invisible to society unless she engages in crazy speak for attention.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 17 23:24:25 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 17 22:57:01 2020.* You always attack. But you will be a Republican!
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Posted by ClearAspect* on Tue Feb 18 00:15:03 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 17 23:24:25 2020.* Thanks for attacking me LuchAAA. The right is showing how insecure they are in this thread. So you must attack, it is in your nature.
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Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Feb 18 00:21:40 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 18 00:15:03 2020.* I attacked all political parties by posting the ingredients on Yodels. I'll battle anyone of any party if the battle is over diet.
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Tue Feb 18 01:46:54 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Feb 17 22:57:01 2020.* Nothing went over my head. It's not an accurate comparison
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Tue Feb 18 01:48:15 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 18 00:15:03 2020.* Nothing insecure at all. Abortion is not even remotely comparable to forced sterilization.....of either sex
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Posted by ClearAspect* on Tue Feb 18 02:49:16 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Feb 18 01:48:15 2020.* Youre making a decision right? Youre forcing a person to do something that they dont want. How is irrelevant. The overall point is what matters. Something it seems you purposely ignore. Head In The Sand
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Posted by ntrainride* on Tue Feb 18 07:26:39 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 17 23:24:25 2020.* dude. gaybos like him always have "seerets". maybe he banged his sister, maybe he stole from his daddy's pants pockets. maybe he ratted out on a friend to save himself from getting a well needed ass whipping. maybe he secretly hates negros, hispanics, italians, chinese. maybe he likes to dress up in his mommy's dresses. but a clown like him, bitching like a schoolgirl all the time about trump? yeah, i can totally see him "secretly" voting for trump.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Tue Feb 18 07:30:53 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Feb 17 20:49:17 2020.* EXACTLY!!!
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Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Feb 18 07:35:39 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 18 02:49:16 2020.* Wrong again. Not analogous at all. Abortion of an unwanted child corrects a mistake. Forced sterilization does not. It prevents a potential mistake. It also prevents wanted future conception. I'm sure that if you think real hard you'll start to understand.
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Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Feb 18 08:12:30 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Feb 17 20:55:41 2020.* You're right. I agree with you and think the legislator's beliefs are wrong. But that doesn't change the fact that she never planned to have the bill pass, she just proposed it to prove a point.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 18 10:24:51 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 18 08:12:30 2020.* There is nothing analogous to abortion that one can legislate against men. This is the closest.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Feb 18 10:33:09 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 18 07:35:39 2020.* Abortion of an unwanted child corrects a mistake Come on now.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Feb 18 11:13:09 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Feb 17 20:49:17 2020.* Anti-abortion laws attempt to exert state control over women's reproductive systems LOL! So the baby in the womb has no rights according to you. Babies result when a woman (and the man she was with) exert no control over their respective reproductive systems. And abortion is funded by the state, to take control over a woman's reproductive system never mind the growing reproductive system of the murdered child. These laws (which are not actually meant to pass) attempt to exert state control over men's reproductive systems LOL, "not actually meant to pass". Enough like-minded Democrats and it would pass. But yes, that is correct, since it mandates a surgical procedure on a man.
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Posted by bingbong* on Tue Feb 18 11:16:28 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Feb 17 20:49:17 2020.* Yet they feel free to dictate to women. And considering that there is a significant risk to health and/or life related to pregnancies (did you know that 30% (yes, that’s THIRTY PERCENT) of all pregnancies experience some complication) they have no right whatsoever to interfere in any decision any woman makes WRT.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Tue Feb 18 11:16:38 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Feb 17 10:20:41 2020.* Don't like it when the government tries to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own* body* The baby is not the woman's own body, Jay0nazi. The vas deferens is part of the man's own body. That's what both Hollis and Figures are pointing out here That makes them worse liars than they already look to be, if so.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 18 11:17:51 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 18 11:13:09 2020.* What you humanize as a “baby” is an embryo and has no rights.
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 18 11:26:43 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Feb 18 08:12:30 2020.* But THAT IS THE POINT, that it doesn't make a point, as it's not even remotely comparable.
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 18 11:27:37 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 18 10:24:51 2020.* Except it's not. Sterilization of women would be the same as sterilization of men. And again, even that doesn't completely compare, as women can't have children after 50, and that's nature not legislation.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Feb 18 11:29:46 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomy's mandatory, posted by bingbong on Tue Feb 18 11:16:28 2020.* How would you know that? Certainly not in any practical way.
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 18 11:30:05 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Feb 18 02:49:16 2020.* Nothing is purposely being ignored. Sterilization of a person not able to have children is not the same as abortion. There is no head in the sand. It's NOT a comparable situation.
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 18 11:30:43 2020, in response to Re: Democrats propose bill to make vasectomies mandatory, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 18 07:35:39 2020.* Notice how his projection of "head in the sand" is actually mirroring himself.
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