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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 12:23:19 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Feb 13 11:17:30 2020.

Most of which have died thanks to Moscow Mitch.

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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 12:26:50 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 11:20:17 2020.

Because the Senate buried them without even considering them?




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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 12:51:12 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Feb 13 12:02:00 2020.

WTF? Do you have reading comprehension problems? I SAID "Nothing too leftist".
WTH is wrong with you? Seriously.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 12:52:30 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Feb 13 12:00:53 2020.

??? The Housing Bubble could have crashed in 2006 instead of 2008, and would have begun it's recovery.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 12:53:52 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 12:26:50 2020.

Of course. You can't have a liberal Disneyland like you have in New York State right now if the Senate is not in the same political thought.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 12:54:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 12:23:19 2020.

Thank goodness.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:03:41 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 11:40:12 2020.

The stock market skyrocketed because people were worried about uncertainty in the election results, like in 2000. That, and the moneyed class has always been Trump's main base of support. It's not the MAGA-hat-wearing "rednecks."

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Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 13:05:01 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 12:53:52 2020.

So you think the Rehabilitation for Multiemployer Pensions Act of 2019, which would help middle western truck drivers continue to receive their pensions, is a liberal Disneyland thing?

Just one of many examples of stuff the Senate won't take up.



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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:05:48 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 11:56:09 2020.

You were the one who said they couldn't pass anything too leftist. Do you even know what bills they passed that Moscow Mitch threw in the Senate dumpster?

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:07:51 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:03:41 2020.

Yes, and after the election they were much more sure of the direction the economy was going to go, as opposed to getting a leftist Democrat in the White House.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:10:06 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:07:51 2020.

What leftist Democrat? Sanders didn't win the nomination.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:12:00 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 13:05:01 2020.

I don't know enough about the particular bill. And just because they would pass "Liberal Disneyland" type bills, doesn't mean all of them are. That's absurd, and I didn't say such.


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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:13:02 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:05:48 2020.

Passing, meaning signed by the Senate and brought into law after passing the President's desk. "Passing" a bill in the house and it failing in the Senate is not what I was talking about.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:13:52 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:10:06 2020.

Again, I used to think many of those in the New York Assembly and Senate were not too leftist either until I see what they do as a group.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:15:46 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:12:00 2020.

Name one "Liberal Disneyland" bill.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:16:47 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:15:46 2020.

Nationally? How can I when they couldn't pass any? (Which is what I stated). Attempting to pass one and it failing in the Senate is not passing it.

In New York? There's plenty.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:16:49 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:13:02 2020.

You don't know what you're talking about.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:17:15 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:16:49 2020.

It's not a law if it's not passed.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:18:59 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:16:47 2020.

The House passed plenty of bills. Which one do you think was rightly killed by Moscow Mitch?

I'm not going to accept your improper usage of the word "pass" because there is no reasonable alternative to saying it "passed" the House and "passed" the Senate.

Fine, name "plenty" in New York.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:19:52 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:17:15 2020.

You're not using that word correctly.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:21:49 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:19:52 2020.

And before you accuse me of being pedantic, your restrictive use of "pass" makes it impossible for me to refer to what happened to any of the bills the House passed.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 13:24:29 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 13:13:02 2020.

"Passing" a bill in the house and it failing in the Senate is not what I was talking about.

If that is your use of the word "pass," then of course the House didn't "pass" anything. Moscow Mitch buried all the bills that cleared the House. But that is Mitch's failure, not the House's.




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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 13:25:50 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:21:49 2020.

But if you do deign to accept his alternative facts use of the word "pass," then you can conclude that he has no point, because failure to "pass" according to his definition is Mitch's fault, not the House's.



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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:11:47 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:18:59 2020.

There's many reasons that a bill doesn't pass. It's not a law until it DOES pass. Before that, it's something that wound up in the waste paper basket.
As for New York, we talked about this before. And I listed before. Less than a month ago. No need to rehash that old topic again. I am sure you can find it, it was around the time of the illegals getting drivers licenses.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:13:11 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:21:49 2020.

It's not an accomplishment until it passes into law. Use whatever vocabulary you want. If it was reasonable, then they should have been able to negotiate with the Senate, and in end, the president's desk.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:14:12 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 13:25:50 2020.

No it is not. There are reasons that it wouldn't pass in the senate. If it can be negotiated with the Senate, it passes, and ultimately into law if the president doesn't veto it.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:18:05 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:13:11 2020.

TNHIW. It doesn’t go into Conference until the Senate PASSES their version. They don’t PASS any version of Moscow Mitch just ignores it.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:19:36 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:14:12 2020.

You need to watch that old School House Rock about how a bill becomes a law.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:20:41 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:18:05 2020.

And if it had merit, it would be negotiated.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:22:12 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:11:47 2020.

So the illegals getting drivers licenses and the rent law? Let’s not forget bail reform.

I like the abortion law and the voting law.

OK, they did go left.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:24:49 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:20:41 2020.

Moscow Mitch doesn’t do anything based on merit.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:27:10 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:22:12 2020.

The biggies, as well as the stupid nit picking ones like bags, straws, etc. And it doesn't mean I disagree with 100% if them. Like cat declawing and marijuana (No, I don't smoke, but feel people should not be criminalized for it if they do).

As a whole however, They do not represent me anymore. When they hit me in the wallet, and tell me how I need to live (or what I shouldn't do like using a friggin bag if I chose to, they lose me). They did both.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:27:35 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:24:49 2020.

OK.

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Feb 13 14:50:00 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 13 13:25:50 2020.

Your productivity at work must be in the crapper

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Feb 13 14:53:48 2020, in response to Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 22:59:25 2020.

True. He inherited from that unheard of recovery after Islam shut down America in 2001. So he accelerated the Bush economy.

We just had that lull from Barry Soetoro.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Feb 13 14:56:03 2020, in response to Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 22:59:25 2020.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:56:56 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 14:27:10 2020.

We can agree to disagree, because while I see flaws in their ideas, I generally like them (except for the rent bill which I am 100% against).

Like I'm for bail reform, but I think what was passed was half-baked and goes way too far. Also, this and the giving illegals licenses is just tactically wrong (it hurts the Democratic brand for little benefit).

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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 13 15:42:24 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock Market, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 13:03:41 2020.

NOW you agree with me!! That's what I've always said. Money and Normies got and will yet again, get Trump in Office.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 13 15:51:49 2020, in response to Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 13 14:56:56 2020.

I actually agree with you on all of this. But the point is they DID go to far. On all of them.
It's major. All of those are MAJOR.
The rent thing is really bad, and will do the exact opposite of what they claim. It will make it HARDER for people to find apartments, and it will make them even more expensive than they are. At the same time, existing apartments in the stabilization will deteriorate, as there is absolutely no incentive AT ALL do anything but the bare minimum to them. Buildings, old buildings that NEED constant upgrading will deteriorate. No hope of getting even a penny more when a tenant that lived in the apartment 25 or more years. An apartment that will need renovation, yet hasn't gotten any increases in decades other than the 2%ish crap. Now can't even get a vacancy allowance! Or increase for needed upgrades and renovation!
WAY too far. At least the old system was somewhat fair.
MAJOR

And we talked about licenses enough.
MAJOR

And there's plenty more. And even the minor stupid stuff. You really think I am alone in thinking the Democrats alienated a LOT of people with these things. Even if you are against just one, it's bad for their image.

Out with them in the election.

Then. Bail reform. Please. Way too far is an understatement again! Even moderate Democrats are outraged over this.
MAJOR




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Re: Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked

Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Feb 13 21:56:53 2020, in response to Trump Inherited Momentum in the Stock marked, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 12 22:59:25 2020.

It looks like the rise began February 12, 2016 - four years ago yesterday, while Obama was still President. No significant change is evident on or about January 20, 2017.

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