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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 16:23:32 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:19:25 2020.

I never said the need for a militia is obsolete. I said it does not equal "citizen".

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 16:24:18 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:18:12 2020.

You are forced to smoke when they do.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 16:25:14 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 16:16:12 2020.

I was listing rights that were (or they would like to be) taken away. Things that you used to be able to do, but can't any longer. My personal opinion is irrelevant. Whether or not those rights being eliminated or controlled were justified is certainly open for debate.

Mylar balloon bans are because they cause power outages and fires, not because of animal or fish deaths.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:25:18 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Feb 8 16:08:51 2020.

It has nothing to do with well organized.

Well organized comes before right to bear arms.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 16:27:01 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:18:12 2020.

I'm with you, but the question wasn't whether or not I agree with rights that Democrats have eliminated, just whether or not they were eliminated.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 8 16:30:16 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 15:29:29 2020.

Is that the best you can do, rat-boy. It's not very impressive.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 8 16:32:54 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:03:42 2020.

Where did you cut and paste that from? Bad form to plagerize.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 16:33:19 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 15:45:00 2020.

No it wasn't. It was to rustle up low cost posses to quell slave rebellions.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 16:35:34 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:03:16 2020.

Yes itis. It requires a professional level training to control and contain.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:39:33 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 16:23:32 2020.

No, because it does not include children, older people, and women.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:39:58 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 8 16:32:54 2020.

Im so sorry, I am all out of fucks to give.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:40:42 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:25:18 2020.

Well-regulated is the term used.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:41:33 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 16:33:19 2020.

LOL!

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 8 16:42:00 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:39:58 2020.

Stay in the minors, junior. You're not ready to step up in class.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:42:17 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:40:42 2020.

Either way, well regulated comes before right to bear arms. So your argument is moot either way.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:43:40 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 8 16:42:00 2020.

All you have on your wall are participation trophies timmy.

Keep aspiring. One day someone will take your seriously and youll be considered an adult then.

Now take this gold star and run along.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:43:46 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:42:17 2020.

It is hardly moot. The right to keep and bear arms is what keeps the militia well-regulated! Certainly if none of the militia had usable guns they would have no regularity.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 16:46:15 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:39:33 2020.

Adult males are not deemed "militia" unless they explicitly enlist and train.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 16:47:22 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 16:04:37 2020.

You are completely incorrect as to"open borders”. The Democratic platform does provide for revamped, humane immigration LAWS to be written. It provides primarily for rights of some form for children of undocumented immigrants brought here by their families, then raised as Americans. Nothing the least bit wrong with some protection for that particular population.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:48:34 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:43:46 2020.

Chicken and Egg, and one left best for constitutional scholars and the courts to decide.

Giving arms to unintelligent or people who would fail a psychology exam just cause the call themselves a militia is more than enough proof of the folly in your argument.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:57:38 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 16:46:15 2020.

This is false and the proff has been posted elsewhere in the thread.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:58:25 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:48:34 2020.

What does intelligence have to do with anything?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 17:02:13 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:58:25 2020.

How else would a militia be well regulated? They need to be able to follow orders, execute orders, follow a chain of command. Be able to learn.

How else would you get well regulated?

You think putting a gun in a random group of adults hands makes them suddenly well regulated?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 17:02:14 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:58:25 2020.

The nerve of unintelligent people owning guns and voting as if they had the same rights as smart people.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 17:04:03 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 17:02:14 2020.

Yes, we get idiots accidently killing people, and Trump in office.

:)

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:04:41 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:57:38 2020.

Go tell anyone you are in the militia because you exist, and they will think you're nuts, and they are right.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:05:33 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 17:02:13 2020.

It was called "F Troop" in the 1960's sitcom.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:05:33 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:43:46 2020.

That’s not what they were getting at. Among the first laws enacted by our new government at the time were gun control laws.(and whistleblower protection, btw...not relevant, but timely)

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:06:07 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 17:02:14 2020.

You can' kill people by voting.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:06:42 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:06:07 2020.

True, but you can enable them.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:06:44 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 16:47:22 2020.

What's "open border" ? Lacking a 22' foot high wall ?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:08:12 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:05:33 2020.

Rand Paul and Trump do not believe in Whistleblower Protection laws when it does not suit them.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 8 17:09:34 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:48:34 2020.

"Giving arms to (the) unintelligent ..."

My take on that is referring to those folks who are unable to grasp or understand the concept of gun safety (locks, gun safes, keeping them away from kids e.g.) and complete necessary training in the use and handling of firearms. Similar to a road test. Can't follow basic rules of the road or safely handle your vehicle, you don't get a drivers license.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:09:36 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:06:44 2020.

LOL! Like the one trump built that got blown over by a gust of wind?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:10:10 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:41:33 2020.

It’s not funny. It’s why.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 17:15:01 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 8 17:09:34 2020.

Thats all I am asking for. Nothing more, nothing less. Common sense.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 8 17:18:58 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 17:04:03 2020.

What about the drunk Amanda in Orlando?

That does not infuriate Clearaspect?

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:30:43 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 17:02:13 2020.

Actually, orders are best followed by people of mediocre intelligence.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:31:48 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:04:41 2020.

Most people aren’t aware of the various provisions of the law. That doesn’t mean they’re not there. I mean most people can’t even find their own location on a globe.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:32:44 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:10:10 2020.

It’s funny that you believe that.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 8 17:33:26 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:30:43 2020.

That's how Democrats do well in elections.


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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:34:18 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 8 17:33:26 2020.

LOL!

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 8 17:44:51 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 8 17:33:26 2020.

Democrats do well by promising free stuff. Free college, free healthcare, free housing, etc. Republicans kind of do as well, but it's more keep more of your own money rather than overt wealth distribution.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 8 17:52:02 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 16:03:16 2020.

I would say that semi-automatic fire is more dangerous than people think it is, if the magazine is big enough.

The way unarmed people stop mass shooters is when they have to reload.



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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 18:11:26 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:32:44 2020.

No it isn't. Facts are facts.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 18:12:41 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 17:08:12 2020.

Law doesn't care. If they divulge the name, it’s jail. Or yet another impeachment.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 18:14:43 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:34:18 2020.

No, it isn't. They do better because they actually offer things Americans want, as opposed to lip service from republicans.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 18:15:36 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 8 17:31:48 2020.

You think anyone in your local police precinct or courtroom agrees with you ? I don't think so.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 8 18:17:44 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 8 17:09:36 2020.

They also managed to bore a hole in one of them and got though.

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Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 8 18:46:03 2020, in response to Re: I Like Pete Buttigieg?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Feb 8 16:48:34 2020.

Giving arms to unintelligent or people who would fail a psychology exam

They give drivers' licenses to people like that all the time, streetcarnazi. And driving is a privilege, not a right like the right to keep and bear arms.

And what exactly do you mean by those terms, eh? Sounds like Soviet psychology.

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