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"Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020

‘Jeopardy!’ question about Bethlehem shouldn’t have aired, producers say

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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Jan 15 17:43:44 2020, in response to "Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020.

OMG!!!

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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 15 18:15:43 2020, in response to "Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020.

The entire thing is ridiculous. I’ve been to Bethlehem and it’s in Pennsylvania!

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 15 18:56:30 2020, in response to "Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020.

TOUGH SHOW TO BE ON

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jan 15 19:07:51 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 15 18:56:30 2020.

TOUGH SHOW TO BE ON

I'll take rail fan windows for $200 Alex !

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 15 19:17:32 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Jan 15 18:56:30 2020.

This is more your speed.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 15 19:53:44 2020, in response to "Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020.

I whole-heartedly thank you for this post.
I was just at an art exhibitition for near east paintings of the 19th century primarily. You walk in, there is an old french map, etc. But two of the paintings listed 4 lands, one being "Palestine". The 19th century map had no such place on it. If they said Israel, which still would have been odd since it was occupied in the 19th century, they would've gotten protest. But I guess they won't hear anything by using the "p" word, unless I do so.
Plus they misquoted the Bible.

I think it's time we proportionately protest this opposite "PC" garbage. Ottoman Empire, South Syria, or Israel. But it's not a small town in east Texas. That looks sloppy in an academic setting.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 15 23:43:13 2020, in response to "Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020.

And to top it off, they had DISPUTED TERRITORIES as a category for match 4 game 2 of the GOAT tournament yesterday.

That said, the original question about the Church of the Nativity should have never been approved for airing.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 10:34:47 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 15 23:43:13 2020.

Cross reference it with my yearly "holiday" post asking why ALL the "holiday" songs say "Israel" and not "disputed territories".

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 16 11:31:15 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 10:34:47 2020.

Because it IS Israel.

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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 11:38:38 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 15 23:43:13 2020.

Yeah, any question where your answer depends on your political views should not be on Jeopardy.

Maybe next they'll ask the name of the second largest city in Northern Ireland, just to piss off another bunch of people.

And then they can ask what country Taipei is in.





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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 11:43:47 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jan 15 23:43:13 2020.

Bethlehem is an Israel, not palestine. There are no such people as palestinians, and there has never been a palestine.

The answer and question are both correct.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 11:44:39 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 16 11:31:15 2020.

iawtlp. I just wish more Jews would also agree.

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 12:08:03 2020, in response to "Jeopardy" producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 15 17:35:36 2020.

Since which answer is "correct" depends on politics, rather on physical facts, they were right to throw out the question. Declaring "Israel" correct and "Palestine" incorrect is completely unfounded. No country on Earth (not even Israel) considers Bethlehem to be Israeli territory. It is part of the West Bank (Judea and Samaria, in Israeli terminology) which Israel controls, but has not formally annexed.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:11:30 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 11:43:47 2020.

Between the World Wars, "Palestine" was actually an administrative territory of the UK.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 12:15:03 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:11:30 2020.

FUCK YOU YOU RACIST JEW HATING ANTI SEMITE!







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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:23:24 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 11:44:39 2020.

I think you are older than me. I blame your generation for thinking knowledge and values gets passed via osmosis on the streets.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:24:48 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 11:38:38 2020.

If Warren becomes president, we can say the same about Washington DC.
She seems to have a thing for random dual capitals.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:25:26 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 12:08:03 2020.

Huh?
So where the hell is it? And what map are you using?

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 16 12:25:52 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:23:24 2020.

I'm 60.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:29:40 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 12:08:03 2020.

Every country's borders are based on "politics." I agree that since the political views of the individual are the basis for the answer, it should not have been included.

There is no such country as "Palestine."

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:31:47 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:11:30 2020.

So what? We stopped calling it "Persia" in 1935 and so we stopped calling it "Palestine" in 1948.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:31:57 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 12:15:03 2020.

Extreme response.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:33:42 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:29:40 2020.

There is still a major cop-out here that is rooted in racist hatred. That is talking about disputed borders as though it is unusual. Nearly every country on earth has a disputed border.

Egypt just gave Saudi Arabia an Island last year.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:34:35 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:33:42 2020.

I see that website is even wrong. It is missed a lot of borders. The Border between Syria and Turkey is disputed, but not mentioned on there for example.

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 16 12:35:18 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:31:57 2020.

Maybe.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:36:32 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:34:35 2020.

It also omitted the illegally occupied country of Catalonia.

#BoycottSpain

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:38:05 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:31:47 2020.

CHMM was saying there was never a place called "Palestine", when, in fact, there was.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:39:17 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 12:15:03 2020.

Oh, I see. Pointing out known historical facts is now "anti-Semitism".

I will hold you to that same conceptual standard from now on.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:40:11 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:36:32 2020.

That's different. But Morocco has occupied Western Sahara for decades, and no one has ever heard of it. And everyone is all up in arms over the "Palestinians," and yet no one gives a shit about the Kurds. That should be a lesson for all of you stateless people: Make your principal export violence against Jews, and you will be a global cause célèbre.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:43:48 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:38:05 2020.

He's partly right. It was called Palestine by people not from there (such as speakers of the English language), like the names "Germany," "Egypt," "China," and "Japan."

In the 1939 NY World's Fair there was a Palestine Pavilion. It was run by and on behalf of Jewish residents of Israel.

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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 16 12:51:46 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:39:17 2020.

No. You are anti-Semites you degenerate piece of shit.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:52:40 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:40:11 2020.

I don't want to split hairs too much, but I'm not so sure Spain is that different. Catalonia had a vote, they have a government, etc.

Ultra-progressives want to talk about colonialism and go on about England, but anyone whose gone to class in 6th grade knows that Spain has a history of occupation and conquest too, which obviously has not ended.

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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 12:55:49 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 12:43:48 2020.

What do you think a Jewish resident of Jerusalem would have said in 1939?

"I live in Israel" or "I live in Palestine."

I think it would usually have been the latter. Israel as the name of the country wasn't decided on until 1948.




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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:57:14 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 16 12:25:52 2020.

It's getting harder and harder to find people of the generation I'm speaking of nowadays. It started before you.
I'm thinking I mean your parents' generation now.

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 12:58:55 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:25:26 2020.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlehem:
Bethlehem... is a city located in the central West Bank, Palestine


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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 13:03:21 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 12:55:49 2020.

He could have also said "the Land of Israel." But that's if he answered you in English or in some other European language. In Hebrew he would have stated "Eretz Yisrael" without exception. He would be unlikely to have said "Palestina" or "HaMandat el Palestina."

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 13:04:34 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:33:42 2020.

The fact that Bethlehem is not part of the State of Israel, proper, is not "disputed", it is AGREED ON by every nation on Earth. Including Israel. So is the fact that it is part of the Palestinian Territories covered by the Oslo Accords.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 13:05:38 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:52:40 2020.

Off topic now, I thought I read a few years ago about a dispute between Texas and Mexico last decade, but I found this interesting stuff instead.

https://www.npr.org/2016/06/08/481206868/landowners-and-federal-officials-dispute-red-rivers-boundaries

The federal government is changing the border between Texas and Oklahoma. What's going on? That's what landowners along the Red River want to know.

For centuries, the Red River has been a line of demarcation. It once marked the boundary between Spain and the United States, later Texas and the U.S. and finally, Oklahoma and Texas. Now, as NPR's Wade Goodwyn reports, that could all change and affect tens of thousands of acres of private land in the process.

WADE GOODWYN, BYLINE: Pat Canan is a petroleum engineer, a Texas game warden and a north Texas rancher with about 2,000 acres that abut the Red River. For more than 50 years, his family gazed across the river at their neighbors in Oklahoma.

One day, while investigating his property on his all-terrain vehicle, Canan saw something stuck in the ground, a fence post in the middle of one of his pastures. He stopped and found a little round bronze marker with official looking words stamped in the middle. What was written there was dumbfounding.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 13:07:59 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 13:04:34 2020.

Your logic is failed on one point. A child cannot be its own master. A slave node needs a master note.

What is the "Palestinian Territories" a "Territory" of?

The term “occupied territory,” which appears in the Fourth Geneva Convention, originated as a result of the Nazi occupation of Europe. Though it has become common parlance to describe the West Bank and Gaza as “occupied territories,” there is no legal basis for using this term in connection to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Professor Julius Stone, a leading authority on the Law of Nations, categorically rejected the use of the term “occupied territory” to describe the territories controlled by Israel

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Use of the term “occupied territory” in the case of the West Bank and Gaza is an abuse and misrepresentation of its true meaning.


Prior to the failed Oslo Accord, it was always Israel just like the Christmas songs said.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 13:13:49 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 16 12:51:46 2020.

STFU, you feckless troglodyte.

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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 13:17:18 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 13:03:21 2020.

OK. Note that CMM posted in English. :)



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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 13:23:37 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 12:57:14 2020.

You thought I was much older?

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 13:23:46 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 12:55:49 2020.

"Israel as the name of the country wasn't decided on until 1948."

Yeah, before that it was the Kingdom of Israel.

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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Jan 16 13:24:35 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 16 13:03:21 2020.

" In Hebrew he would have stated "Eretz Yisrael" without exception."

One of my 70+ year old Christian books says only fanatics use that term and its off-putting.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 13:27:06 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:38:05 2020.

Fuck you.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 13:28:38 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 16 12:58:55 2020.

Well if it's on Wikipedia, then it's got to be the truth.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 13:42:21 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 16 12:51:46 2020.

iawtlp

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 16 13:46:02 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 16 13:17:18 2020.

No shit.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 16 13:57:04 2020, in response to Re: ''Jeopardy'' producers pilloried for expecting contestants to give correct responses, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Jan 16 12:11:30 2020.

So what? What does this have to do with anything. It's not called that now. Should we be calling New York, New Amsterdam?
The BS with the liberals never ends.

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