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Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019

Active shooting

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Re: Jersey City, NJ shooting

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 10 14:46:01 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.

No such thing as passive shooting.

Hope they stop the shooting.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 10 16:52:30 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.

6 dead according to NBC New York - the police officer, 3 civilians, and both suspects. Police officer was 39 years old and the father to five. Reports are he was ambushed off site.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 10 17:16:27 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 10 16:52:30 2019.

One of the dead was a Chassidic Jew.

The cream of the crop journ-o-lists mislabeled a Kosher store a "bodega".

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 10 17:22:40 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 10 17:16:27 2019.

Scratch that, multiples.

Well, good thing we're in America. Overseas this type of thing goes on for hours and they'd run all over town. They never get away with it in the US. Depending on the definition of that anyway. What's done is already done regardless.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 10 18:37:41 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.

They haven't released the motive yet to the public.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 10 18:41:02 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 10 18:37:41 2019.

From the Times:

Officials believe the shooting began when the detective approached one of the gunmen at a nearby cemetery in connection with a homicide investigation and was shot dead, according to a person with knowledge of the matter.



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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 10 18:52:38 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 10 18:41:02 2019.

Same Journ-o-list that called it a bodega? What happened to the drug deal angle?

Cuz, drug deals, and cemetery visits always entail stolen U-Haul trucks with pipe bombs inside.

Let's get the rumor mill going. I dare someone to send in a tip claiming its UFO's. These idiots would probably repeat it.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 10 19:20:37 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 10 18:41:02 2019.

🤣😂👌

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Dec 10 19:37:02 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.

Governor Briefing

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 08:20:09 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 10 18:41:02 2019.

Possibility that you just JayzeeBMT'd this story.


Mayor Bill de Blasio

@NYCMayor
The Mayor of Jersey City has asserted that today’s incident was a deliberate attack targeting the Jewish community.


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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 09:23:10 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 08:20:09 2019.

I think that's obvious.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 09:43:05 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 09:23:10 2019.

Not yet, it isn't. While it is likely that the market was the intended target, the investigation isn't over:

'Shea emphasized that the shooters' motive is not yet clear and is under investigation.'

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 10:05:04 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 09:43:05 2019.

Really? You need a motive for Black Israelites attacking a Kosher Grocery?

We need a new verb for you.

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Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

Posted by Joe on Wed Dec 11 10:08:38 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.

Our ever-changing demographics keep my interest. I first rode past 223 Martin Luther King Drive on the Jackson car from Hoboken and Journal Square towards my cousins' house in Greenville. Presumably, I did not notice Sacred Heart church and school and the store front that would become a Hassidic market, target of murderers. YouTube has a video of the closure of the church, but the school was in lock-down during the rampage across the street.
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Southbound, we would ride the Jackson car past the next parish, St. Paul's, and get off at Winfield Avenue. Northbound, very often late at night, we would walk to Old Bergen Road and take the first transit vehicle (Jackson car or Bergen Avenue bus) that would bring us to Journal Square and the Tubes.
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Decades later, the Bergen Avenue bus drivers suffered so many robberies that a special yellow light was placed on the roof to help summon police. Now Hassids are moving in, perhaps because of low purchase price of housing.


  • A 2018 letter to editor


  • YouTube History of Sacred Heart parish, Jersey City


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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 10:17:46 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.

    Very tragic. I didn't know Jersey City had a significant Jewish population.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 10:21:02 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 10:17:46 2019.

    JayzeeBMT tells me they're not a targeted minority, so it's not worth mentioning.

    But I feel for these people. I wish they'd all move to Florida and let the NY area turn into those 70's dystopian movies.
    Or for cheap, I got even better. I just need a few thousand people at once.


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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 10:28:37 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 10:21:02 2019.

    Thank you, I'll watch the video later. No, don't move to Florida. Move to Israel.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:44:16 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 10:05:04 2019.

    Where has it been reported that the two suspects were "Black Israelites"?

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:47:24 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 10:21:02 2019.

    Again, I said Jews, as a group, are not targeted by the police. Stop twisting my words.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 10:59:52 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 10:28:37 2019.

    I don't think the "news" thing is going to tell you anything you couldn't guess already. Except the housing difference is probably even more dramatic in price now.

    We will all go to Israel when the next Demonkkkrat goes into office, and take everything like a great exodus. Until then, you can live like a human being in Florida at least.



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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 11:07:09 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Joe on Wed Dec 11 10:08:38 2019.

    Author of that letter could co-host some documentaries with domestic terrorists with fear-mongering language like that.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 11:25:11 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:47:24 2019.

    But you would wish that it were so.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 11:28:14 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:47:24 2019.

    NOBODY SAUD THE JEWS ARE TARGETED BY POLICE! BUT WE ARE STILL TARGETED.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 11:30:49 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 11:25:11 2019.

    False smears by you don't add anything to this discussion.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 11:32:45 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 11:25:11 2019.

    That's what equality is all about. We have to screw everyone to feel good.

    Why aren't Jews targeted by the police?
    Who is targeted by the police and why? What is wrong with that?

    What is worse? Someone being stopped by the cops who raped some girl, or a 4 hour standoff at a little grocery market?

    Which do people cry over?

    Exactly. Who says we don't have collective myths and fairy tales anymore.

    This ignores the falicy of the original point. That the police don't target certain groups at all. That's beyond ignorant.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 11:33:19 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 11:30:49 2019.

    That was certainly not meant as a false smear. Your dislike of the Jewish people is well known.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 11:33:48 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:44:16 2019.

    Why did you put it in quotes? You were one of the original ones who tried to scrub the main perps out of the Covington story. And then you complain about police targets.

    I sense some personal biases here.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 12:07:16 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 11:33:19 2019.

    Yeah, when he went on a posting frenzy last year over a little kid wewaring a red hat from Covington High School, he deleted this photo and group entirely.




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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 13:21:35 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 10 19:20:37 2019.

    Well, now that the cat is out of the bag to the General Public, I knew what it was yesterday but I wasn't going to say anything because I'm sick of having to explain myself to the naysayers. At first they thought it was prislam, but later it turned out to be black "Israelites". It was a total, terroristic, anti-semitic attack.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 13:22:13 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:44:16 2019.

    Where have YOU been??

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 13:25:49 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 10:47:24 2019.

    Because they don't go around wreaking havoc on Society!

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 13:29:37 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 13:21:35 2019.

    Considering the neighborhood, I had my reservations if it was a primary target, or just a "bonus" for some scumbag.

    But then they started telling us that it was a drug deal gone bad in a stolen u-haul truck with explosives at a cemetery. Even though now I hear these guys drove slowly and took their time setting up for the seige.

    That was as rediculous as the Jersey folks saying this isn't a hate crime or terror attack.

    They run nationally to the aid of fake alleged crimes for other folks. Here there's the usual deny.
    Some people get it in the front and the back.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 14:50:56 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 09:43:05 2019.

    News conference proves you are wrong again. Apparently you and bingbong have similar alternate realities.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Dec 11 15:21:14 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 14:50:56 2019.

    At the time I posted that link, Director Shea made the quote I referenced. He said the investigation was still ongoing, which it was.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 11 16:25:07 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Dec 10 18:52:38 2019.

    The Times just repeated what a police source told them. They now have a prominent article quoting the police saying that it's a hate crime.



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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 11 16:48:01 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 10:28:37 2019.

    WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 17:24:39 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 11 16:25:07 2019.

    You having faith in the New York Times is why I made those emoticons

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 17:29:00 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 11 16:48:01 2019.

    2021

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 11 17:31:38 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 17:29:00 2019.

    OK

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 11 17:42:34 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 17:24:39 2019.

    Um, have you read more about it? It turns out the original NY Times story was ALSO TRUE. It was a hate crime AND it all started when he shot a detective that was trying to question him about a prior homicide.




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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 11 18:14:29 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 11 17:42:34 2019.

    I don't rely on the Times for the story. I hear it from sources at the scene.😉😎

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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:27:50 2019, in response to Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 10 14:42:55 2019.



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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 18:29:55 2019, in response to Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:27:50 2019.

    Friends of JZ no doubt.

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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 18:30:07 2019, in response to Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:27:50 2019.

    Friends of JZ no doubt.

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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:32:41 2019, in response to Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 11 18:29:55 2019.

    I wonder.

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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 11 19:05:43 2019, in response to Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:27:50 2019.

    You found the video I was looking for.

    Yeah, they'll protest and sue to move into certain neighborhoods and we all have to go to "diversity" classes. But when someone wants to be their neighbor or drive through the neighborhood, you get egged or murdered.
    Look at the clowns in every city on the map crying gentrification and what its really about.

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    Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 11 19:05:49 2019, in response to Re: Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 10:17:46 2019.

    Very tragic. I didn't know Jersey City had a significant Jewish population.

    That part of Jersey City has a growing Jewish population. As reported on the news tonight, it was stated that the exodus out of Brooklyn was due to being "priced out" of their homes.

    Lots of greed in the real property field. I put real estate tycoons in the same category as politicians.

    Bill Newkirk

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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 11 19:12:20 2019, in response to Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:27:50 2019.

    What’s disgusting is that this is NOT SURPRISING.

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    Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting

    Posted by DAnD124 on Wed Dec 11 19:20:58 2019, in response to Re: Jew hating black racists Jersey City, NJ- Active shooting, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Dec 11 18:27:50 2019.

    So that explains why this hasn't gotten more coverage.

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