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Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 11:58:39 2019

I thought only leftists were criminals...
Check your favorite source

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 15 12:01:59 2019, in response to Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 11:58:39 2019.

Will Trump pardon him, as a message to others facing prosecution for supporting him?

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 12:05:24 2019, in response to Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 11:58:39 2019.

But, but, there was no collusion.



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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 15 12:14:03 2019, in response to Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 12:05:24 2019.

Witch hunt!

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:15:33 2019, in response to Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 11:58:39 2019.

Not only that, but Amy Berman Jackson (should've been made to recuse) allowed a biased former Obama press secretary on the jury. Already being appealed.

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 15 12:18:03 2019, in response to Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 15 12:01:59 2019.

Nothingburger! 🤣

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 15 12:18:36 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:15:33 2019.

Why should she have been made to recuse herself?

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 12:24:15 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:15:33 2019.

allowed a biased former Obama press secretary on the jury

That's what peremptory challenges are for.



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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 12:32:45 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:15:33 2019.

Olog nazi doesnt know how jury trials work.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 15 12:38:49 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 12:32:45 2019.

That's because, in Olog's ideal system, they don't have juries or lawyers. Just executioners.

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Nov 15 14:26:27 2019, in response to Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 11:58:39 2019.

And because of This, Trump is guilty.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 14:42:49 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 12:32:45 2019.

Not to mention that it’s lawyers who do jury selection. Judges only rule on disputes between them.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 14:59:46 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 12:15:33 2019.

Oh, was this the trail where the judge said that no one who liked Trump was allowed to be on the Jury so it was all deep staters?


Or am I thinking of another corrupt case that occured within the last week?

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 15:18:01 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 14:42:49 2019.

Presumably (if there is any truth to this at all, and considering the source, who knows) Stone's lawyer wanted her rejected for cause, but the judge said no, and Stone's lawyer used his peremptory challenges on riskier people.




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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by Sand Box John on Fri Nov 15 15:32:20 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 14:42:49 2019.

Not to mention that it’s lawyers who do jury selection. Judges only rule on disputes between them.

That ain't how it worked when I was called for jury duty last month. The judge asked all the questions. I answered as I stood at the bench between the defended and his counsel on my right and the states attorney on my left. The judge then ask the lawyers if I should remain in the pool of prospective jurors. Both lawyers said no.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 15:46:24 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Nov 15 15:32:20 2019.

Both lawyers said no.

I'm impressed that you scared them both.



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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 15:47:32 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Nov 15 15:32:20 2019.

Spider-Pig is becoming tedious.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 15:57:45 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 14:59:46 2019.

I think your inbred imagination is at work again.

There no such thing ad the deep state :)

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by Sand Box John on Fri Nov 15 16:04:34 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 15:46:24 2019.

I'm impressed that you scared them both.

I did not hold back the fact that I might be biased.

I have been call four times in my life for jury duty, three time at the state level and once at the federal level. At the state level I was seated once and dismissed twice. At the federal level my number was never call up to appear as prospective juror.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Nov 15 16:20:55 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Nov 15 15:32:20 2019.

From my experience, both as an Attorney and being called for jury duty, a lot depends on the individual Judge and the nature of the case. A simple car accident case that will be tried within a week, most Judges won't be bothered to be present during voir dire and will instead rely on their Law Secretary to be the Judge's eyes and ears. Others take the bench in all cases even if they are not paying full attention just so potential jurors don't attempt to lie or just to make sure attorneys get to the point of their questioning of potential jurors. However, major cases will usually involve active participation by the Judge. I was once called for a tobacco litigation that was expected to take 8 weeks. Thankfully I was not chosen, but the Judge was even more grueling with some potential jurors than the attorneys were. As an Attorney if you don't want to be there I am not going to force you since most Judges (at least at State level) will allow an unlimited number of challenges despite what rules may say. If a Judge is being a pain about number of challenges usually the ones who are quite obvious about not wanting to be there I won't get an objection if I say it is for cause. I only recall one time where adversary objected to a challenge for cause, but as soon as she did the Law Secretary said to her that he knows which statement was the basis for my challenge and that she really does not want to take this to the Judge. Attorney got the hint because it was a statement that I could have struck the entire pool over but I chose not to because I was confident in the rest of the pool if I used all of my peremptory challenges plus this one challenge for cause.

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:27:51 2019, in response to Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 11:58:39 2019.

Only leftist get off.

"what about Crooked Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Shifty Schiff, Ohr & Nellie, Steele, Mueller"?

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 16:32:29 2019, in response to Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:27:51 2019.

None of them actually committed any crimes. It's not as though Trump's Justice Department hasn't had 3 years to try to pin something on them; they just can't find anything.



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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Nov 15 16:35:24 2019, in response to Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Nov 15 12:01:59 2019.

Good question!!!

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Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 17:15:28 2019, in response to Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:27:51 2019.

Well you have Barr controlling the Department of Justice and its been 3 years and no criminal charges have been brought forth.

Your opinion doesnt make crimes in your inbred mind magically true

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 17:18:55 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 15:18:01 2019.

Which makes sense.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge who allowed biased jurors on jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:26:10 2019, in response to Re: Another conservative, Roger Stone found guilty, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 16:27:51 2019.

Not all leftists do. But the deep state is working overtime to stop the hammer from falling.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:27:11 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 14:59:46 2019.

This is the one.

Already going to appeal. Not that this judge should have been allowed anywhere near this case.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a tainted jury

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:28:21 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Nov 15 15:47:32 2019.

And he once claimed that he was the furthest thing from a socialist one can be, lol. If that were true, he should be to my right politically, double lol.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury. Olog doesnt know how courts work

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 18:36:04 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a tainted jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:28:21 2019.

It was unanimous

Get over it.

There is no deep state, there is no conspiracy

Just assholes like you

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury. Olog lies about conspiracy theory

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 18:37:31 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge who allowed biased jurors on jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:26:10 2019.

You believe there is a deep state. There just deep assholes, youre one of them

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a Jury

Posted by Mtk52983 on Fri Nov 15 19:05:45 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:27:11 2019.

How come she shouldn't?

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge who allowed biased jurors on jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 19:06:16 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge who allowed biased jurors on jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:26:10 2019.

…deep state…



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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a Jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 19:07:11 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a Jury, posted by Mtk52983 on Fri Nov 15 19:05:45 2019.

Because she was appointed by Obama. Olog-hai hopes to cleanse the government of all pre-Trump officials.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 19:09:00 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Nov 15 15:32:20 2019.

Actually, I don’t have any criminal jury selection experience at all, either as a potential juror or as a lawyer, so withdrawn.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury

Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 15 19:16:20 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 15 19:09:00 2019.

As a juror quite a few times, I can tell you that it varies, even within NY State. Not surprisingly, judges are much more likely to be completely involved, or do the questioning themselves, in criminal cases. It may also have changed over time.




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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury full of unqualified Trump-haters

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 22:34:14 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury. Olog doesnt know how courts work, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 15 18:36:04 2019.

You like show trials and the death of impartiality, don't you streetcarnazi? You hate America.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury full of unqualified Trump-haters

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Nov 16 12:42:32 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by a jury full of unqualified Trump-haters, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 22:34:14 2019.

No.
We hate what "You" represent.
We hate your lies.
We hate the fact that you Need to lie.

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Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge who allowed biased jurors on jury

Posted by Jimmymc25 on Sat Nov 16 13:52:25 2019, in response to Re: Roger Stone found guilty by Obama-appointed judge who allowed biased jurors on jury, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 15 18:26:10 2019.

Oh my God!!!’!!!

You guys get funnier and funnier by the post!!!

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