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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/11/big-cities-pose-major-threat-to-the-economy-by-ignoring-minor-crimes.html |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 15 22:18:36 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. This is what they want, this is what they get! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Oct 15 22:59:20 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. Good article! I've read something similar in an urban planning context, but it was a few months ago and I can't find it :(. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Oct 16 11:54:20 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. IDWTPIDWTR |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 12:34:29 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. Chopping up teenagers is minor?Needing a human shield of cops protecting city buses is minor? And yeah, no stuck up snob will understand no one wants to live in a place where people piss all over your front door on the weekends. Or when a Democrat bikes on by, punch you in the face, and call you "a dirty Jew" like last weekend. |
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Posted by rkba on Wed Oct 16 13:15:19 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Oct 15 22:18:36 2019. I always went after jaywalkers. doesn't mean everyone got a summons for it, but we found a lot of wanted people that way. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 16 16:40:57 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by rkba on Wed Oct 16 13:15:19 2019. Yep. Same with farebeats, smoking, littering, spitting, urinating. They could get you a nice collar, if they're strapped or wanted. The old regimes knew this. Warren knows this, but let's be honest, he ALSO knows who 95% of the mopes engaging in this are, and we can't have Chirline (sp) mad at him now, can he? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 08:26:39 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. The police should focus on genuine crimes, large or small. And some of the things listed in the article (petty theft, vandalism) ARE genuine crimes, and police should not ignore them. But some so-called "quality of life" offenses (such as vending without a license) really aren't (that one actually improves the quality of life for all concerned, both buyers and sellers.) And over-aggressive policing (like the stop-and-frisk program that existed under our last mayor) reduces the quality of life for everyone in the area, by making them feel like they are always suspects, like they are under occupation, instead of like they are the real citizens of their communities.Here’s the kicker: the quality of life enforcement in those neighborhoods in the 1990s came mostly at the request of the local residents and remaining business owners. The request of "the" local residents? More likely of a very small group of them who imagined themselves to represent the others, when they did not. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 08:56:54 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 08:26:39 2019. Good point. We should ignore the Eric Gardners and the murderous problem there and get rid of all checkpoints, either at the border, or in schools and government facilities. Why be searched like I'm a suspect? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 17 09:07:36 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 08:26:39 2019. Dan, believe it or not, most of the time it is the residents of the neighborhood now, be them residence or business owners that want this shit to stop. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 09:56:03 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 08:56:54 2019. We should ignore the Eric Gardners and the murderous problem thereWhat "murderous problem"? The only thing relating to Eric Gardner that in any way resembles a "murderous problem" is his killing. Selling loose cigarettes? That wouldn't be a problem at all if not for the outrageous taxes we now have on cigarettes. But that's more an issue for the legislature than for the police to address. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 10:01:33 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 17 09:07:36 2019. Like I said, we need to clarify and disambiguate what is meant when people say "this shit". |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 10:55:02 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 09:56:03 2019. We've been through this over 1000 times on here.About 80% of the smokes in NYC are illegal and untaxed. How do you think they get them? Stealing, Assault, and Murdering clerks. Get it through your head, murder is not a victim-less crime. Unless you're anti-immigrant I suppose. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 17 11:21:45 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 10:55:02 2019. How do you think they get them? Stealing, Assault, and Murdering clerks.No, that's not how they get them. By the time a cigarette is in a store, the NY State excise tax has been paid. They buy them legally in a low-tax state or an Indian Reservation and then bring them illegally to NYC. Yes, a crime is involved here, and it shouldn't be ignored, but it's not a violent crime. And the major crime was committed by the smuggler who brought in 1,000 cartons, not by the guy selling them one at a time on the street. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 11:35:08 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 10:01:33 2019. "this shit" = only when they disrespect you. Otherwise it's called "snitchin". |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 11:42:55 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 17 11:21:45 2019. "They buy them legally in a low-tax state and then bring them illegally to NYC."Okay business major, lets see the spreadsheet that disagrees with the local NY Newscasts on how illegal smokes happen. Because you just Kramers me into taking glass bottles to Michigan for the deposit money. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Oct 17 12:37:48 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. IDWTNA |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 17 12:47:47 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 17 10:01:33 2019. The quality of life violations, including criminal mischief, graffiti, littering, |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 17 13:16:41 2019, in response to Re: Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 17 12:47:47 2019. Whoa whoa whoa.Don't forget we legalized public urination. It's not an issue if someone takes a leak on your front stoop. It actually makes the neighborhood more attractive and stops people from leaving. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 17 19:47:03 2019, in response to Big cities are posing a major threat to the economy by ignoring minor crimes, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:15:15 2019. My ex son-in-law was taught that there are no unimportant laws. Once you make the law subjective, then everyone has their own opinion about what laws they should obey and which they can ignore. |
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