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Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/08/22/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-buying-15m-estate-in-marthas-vineyard/amp

His transformation from man of the people, community organizer to liberal elitist is now complete. No one needs a $15 million estate, especially two people with only two children.

I don’t remember MLK living in $15 million digs, or Rosa Parks or Harriet Tubman. Are ordinary black folks still going to think of him as a man of the people when he lived on an estate they can only dream about?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 23 08:36:34 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

I don't begrudge him. He has the money and whatever message people (his supporters or detractors) take from it, he will deal with it, or not.

I don't think this is happening in this case, but there was a theory among people in "radical" groups ('60s-ish), that if one of their leaders came from money, he was entitled to it, because of "how hard he works for the cause." Kind of like Soviet leaders got a nice, government-owned dacha.

I remember an article in the Philadelphia Inquirer (IIRC) decades ago about one such "rich radical." He was asked how he deals with all his (hereditary) money in light of his groups goals and politics. He said he lives and works as if he does not have the money. In fact, he said, he keeps it in a hard-to-reach bank, where you have to take the Broad Street Line to Olney, they walk "many blocks" to reach the bank, so it is like it isn't really there.

But he wasn't asked an obvious question: "Why don't you give it away or to 'the cause.'"

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 08:40:21 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

Figures you’d consider this a betrayal of his supposed principles.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:51:43 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 08:40:21 2019.

Not HIS supposed principles. I don’t think he has any principles. He’s a professional rabble-rouser, a smooth talking, glib con artist who charisma and skin color duped the ignorant populace, like Chris Mathews, into thinking he was the Great Black Hope.

It’s the principles attributed TO him. People thought he was as pure as the driven snow, that he would be the Great Unifier and peacemaker, someone who was above material things and was going to unite the country and bring prosperity to the black community. He was supposed to be in the mold of MLK.

Turns out he was nothing like that at all. He talked a good game, did next to nothing for the black community and collected his millions on the QT. Now he’s living in a $15M mansion and thumbing his nose at everyone.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 09:20:10 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

His transformation from man of the people, community organizer to liberal elitist is now complete

He never was the former.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 09:49:10 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:51:43 2019.

Not HIS supposed principles. I don’t think he has any principles. He’s a professional rabble-rouser, a smooth talking, glib con artist who charisma and skin color duped the ignorant populace, like Chris Mathews, into thinking he was the Great Black Hope.

LOL!

It’s the principles attributed TO him. People thought he was as pure as the driven snow, that he would be the Great Unifier and peacemaker, someone who was above material things and was going to unite the country and bring prosperity to the black community. He was supposed to be in the mold of MLK.

That's too bad. Why should I care about this? Why should you?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 10:04:07 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:51:43 2019.

I don’t think he has any principles

That about sums it up.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 10:22:03 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 09:49:10 2019.

Because Lord knows we NEED a Great Uniter in this country and in this world.

You know, my mother always told me that after WWII ended and the world learned of the extent of Nazi hate and atrocities, that the world would finally learn to give up on hate and prejudice. That people would realize that the only way civilization will survive is if we all work together, Black, White, Jew, Gentile and everyone else.

When she was in her last years she would show me her Auschwitz number on her arm and tell me that she couldn’t believe that the world could be so stupid as to allow hate to rise again.

She died in 2006. I can’t imagine how much more disappointed she’d be today.

Barack Obama is what he is. What I resent about him is that he accepted all of the huzzahs and hosannas whole knowing full well that he was either incapable of or unwilling to be the Great Uniter. In fact, racial animosity under his Presidency to the point where a Donald Trump could be elected. Donald Trump!!

And now Obama’s going to live in a $15M mansion while ordinary black folks are no better off than they were. Obama got rich and famous while accomplishing nothing.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 10:23:29 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 10:22:03 2019.

Because Lord knows we NEED a Great Uniter in this country and in this world

You want a one-world government?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 10:25:05 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 09:49:10 2019.

I don't care either. I laugh at those who voted for this huckster only because of a commonality of pigmentation in their skin and expected him to do anything to better the lives. Jokes on them. He used them to better his life. The adoring
throngs who livingly referred to him by his first name, like a friend still don't get it. To him, you were calling means to an end. The move him into the world of white privilege. Now you can put obama into the samre category with sharpton and jackson. You been scammed, my brother.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 10:34:13 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 10:22:03 2019.

Because Lord knows we NEED a Great Uniter in this country and in this world.

No, we don't. We absolutely do not need a "uniter" or a leader.

Barack Obama is what he is. What I resent about him is that he accepted all of the huzzahs and hosannas whole knowing full well that he was either incapable of or unwilling to be the Great Uniter.

Of course he wasn't going to be the Great Uniter as long as people considered him to be the anti-Christ. A lot of that was hatred of the first "nigger president."

In fact, racial animosity under his Presidency to the point where a Donald Trump could be elected. Donald Trump!!

Racial animosity already existed and found its outlet in hatred of Obama.

The world doesn't work like the Book of Judges.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 10:34:44 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 23 10:23:29 2019.

You're a deeply disturbed individual.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:27:48 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

What's wrong long legged mack daddy, Chicago's not good enough for you?


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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:30:07 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

I don't think mlk could have afforded a $15 million dollar house. And neither could Harriet Tubman, or Rosa Parks.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:30:41 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:51:43 2019.

Did nothing for anybody.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:31:21 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 10:22:03 2019.

Very good post.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:31:54 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 10:34:44 2019.

I thought it was a good question.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:32:54 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 10:34:13 2019.

"No, we don't. We absolutely do not need a uniter or a leader." I agree.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 23 11:39:09 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

Wait, this is in addition to the Hollywood mansion with the SHARK MOAT?!

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Aug 23 11:42:44 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

ODS

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:43:44 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:30:07 2019.

Those were actual civil rights fighters. Obama is not and never claimed to be.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:44:57 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:31:54 2019.

No, it wasn't. Where in Mitch's post did he imply any such thing?

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:45:22 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 11:32:54 2019.

Thank you.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:47:30 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Aug 23 11:42:44 2019.

Exactly!

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 11:52:14 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:51:43 2019.

How interesting that you have appointed yourself the arbiter of Obama's value to the Black community or anyone else.

"He’s a professional rabble-rouser, a smooth talking, glib con artist who charisma and skin color duped the ignorant populace, like Chris Mathews, into thinking he was the Great Black Hope."

Wow.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 23 11:54:08 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:47:30 2019.

Yeah, ignore the collusion and where the money came from.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 23 11:54:42 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 08:40:21 2019.

Oh great one. Enlighten us as to what his actual principals are!

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:28:15 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:43:44 2019.

ok, But could the question was, could mlk afforded it. And while obama never said per se he's a civil rights fighter, prior to March 17, 2008 he was the presidential who happened to be black. After that, he became the black presidential candidate.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:29:55 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:44:57 2019.

I thought it was Olog who posted the question.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:31:12 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:28:15 2019.

That's a strange distinction for you to make given that that was the date he condemned Jeremiah Wright's remarks about America.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:31:54 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:31:12 2019.

He wasn't sincere.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:32:08 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:29:55 2019.

And?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:32:32 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:31:54 2019.

You are free to believe that.

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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:34:11 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:32:08 2019.

Well Olog did post the question. If you don't want to answer it that's your prerogative.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:34:31 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:32:32 2019.

Well Thank you!

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:35:36 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:34:11 2019.

He didn't ask me, he asked Mitch. But it wasn't a "real" question. He was JAQing off in response to Mitch's post.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Aug 23 12:38:04 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:35:36 2019.

Ok. That's fine. Carry on.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 12:50:02 2019, in response to Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Aug 23 08:00:55 2019.

There's nothing wrong with him doing that. What's wrong is he being the type that thinks and preaches that's bad for everyone else. Liberal policy is good for everyone but yourself.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 12:51:12 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 12:50:02 2019.

All pigs are created equal but some are more equal than others.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 12:51:37 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 09:49:10 2019.

You shouldn't. But he's still a hypocrite.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 12:53:34 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 10:25:05 2019.

I don't bregrudge him, he's living the American dream. It's the pure hypocrisy though that can be criticized.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:54:35 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 12:50:02 2019.

Except that he's not that type. The conservative media like to claim that he's a socialist, but he's not one.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 12:55:37 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:54:35 2019.

But he plays one on TV

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:58:17 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 12:51:37 2019.

No, he's not.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:59:55 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Aug 23 12:55:37 2019.

No, he doesn't.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 13:02:58 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 10:34:13 2019.

Oh stop. It's policy and leftism, not his HALF skin color. It's the lefts favorite card, and it's old and torn.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 13:06:07 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 11:47:30 2019.

Except Obama proved he was exactly who many assumed he was.

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 13:06:34 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Aug 23 11:52:14 2019.

Lol!
No, LMAO!!!

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Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 13:10:23 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:54:35 2019.

He plays right in, and even encourages it

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 23 13:10:50 2019, in response to Re: Obama is Buying a $15M Estate in Martha’s Vineyard, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 23 12:58:17 2019.

He's one of the biggest

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