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I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019

Considering that most of these journ-o-list are like under 15 years old when you watch them, what's with the massive Woodstock coverage? The moon landing didn't even get this.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:39:23 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

Sadly, during the rainy music festival, a total of eight women suffered miscarriages. Two women in attendance gave birth, but neither birth occurred on the actual festival grounds. We have to hand it to these women. They knew it was an historic event and didn’t want to miss it, even though they were literally ready to give birth. And imagine the stories those kids get to tell their family and friends: “I was born AT Woodstock.”

yeah okay

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Aug 19 15:45:39 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

woodstock kept me out of the vietnam war
i am glad this happened !!
like this song below


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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 15:52:43 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

IAWTP. Overrated event.

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Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 19 16:05:25 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

Corrected.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 19 16:08:03 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

I never understood its meaning.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Aug 19 19:18:36 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

Jean and Joan

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Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Aug 19 20:36:42 2019, in response to Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 19 16:05:25 2019.

Thanks.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 19 21:36:28 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

Baby Boomers. It was some sort of religious event to them.
Genexers don't care...and
Millennials laugh at it.

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 22:12:24 2019, in response to Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 19 16:05:25 2019.

Pfft. Only thing about that is that heavy metal was born as a reaction to that kind of music.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 23:05:45 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Aug 19 15:45:39 2019.

saw country joe and the fish, early show, fillmore east June 1, 1968 - yes they included this song.
I went single :( my prom date's (prom was previous night) father wouldn't allow her go into big bad NYC, he spoke about "all the riots."

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 23:25:44 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 19 21:36:28 2019.

I think that any large to very large gathering of people for an event they would all consider significant, will live on in their memories and in the way their experience at the event might partly come to reflect and/ or shape their values and view of the world.

Here we are talking about Woodstock, but I would expect, for example, that, anyone attending an event, for one or more days, with thousands of others that might be considered an extremely conservative religiously fundamentalist gathering - those people would feel the same way about their event for years to come.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 23:31:54 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 19 21:36:28 2019.

Ah, but Genexers and Millenials who frequent used record stores probably do get it.


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Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Aug 20 07:53:34 2019, in response to Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 19 16:05:25 2019.





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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 08:52:17 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 23:25:44 2019.

Yes, but it's different this time around. People are way more removed from it now. I remember the 25th anniversary in the 90's, and it was huge. It was embraced by the GenXers who were young then. The Baby Boomers were still middle aged, and not geriatric.
The GenXers look more fondly at their 25th anniversary event than the original, and they also are removed from the original even more now.
The Millenials don't care at all.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 08:57:59 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 23:31:54 2019.

GenXers a bit. Millenials almost not at all.

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Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Aug 20 10:02:58 2019, in response to Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Aug 20 07:53:34 2019.

LOL

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 20 10:34:23 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 19 21:36:28 2019.

Maybe for most baby boomers, but not everybody.
Not everyone who went there thought it was the greatest thing on earth. Read an article last week about a guy who was disappointed at it as just one example and have heard other stories. Maybe just some non-religious Jews never thought of it as a great thing after going.
It really puts the Golden Calf episode in perspective since things never change.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 11:18:58 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 20 10:34:23 2019.

It's actually hysterical how some baby boomers still look back on it. Like everyone else now has some meaningfulness to it.

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Re: I’m sick of Woodstock

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 20 11:20:22 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 11:18:58 2019.

When the biggest concern was "Don't eat the brown acid!", you know something was wrong there.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 20 12:14:58 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 11:18:58 2019.

And I can imagine those people. I've seen them as college professors or high school teachers.

Stark difference between types of people.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Aug 20 13:20:10 2019, in response to I'm sick of woodstock, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 15:38:02 2019.

I was in Woodstock this morning - Nana's Creative Cafe and Bread Alone and a walk through town. Then I left..

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 20 13:25:43 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Aug 20 13:20:10 2019.

Do they have gluten free options?

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Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 20 13:38:37 2019, in response to Re: I'll Never Be Sick of Woodstock, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Aug 20 07:53:34 2019.

Like!

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 20 13:41:33 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 08:52:17 2019.

True, yes...
To the Millenials its just history, and not relevant to their current lives at all...
I mean to them, even that first Clash album is ancient history!

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 20 13:43:29 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 08:52:17 2019.

Didn't MTV do a huge broadcast too

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 20 13:43:49 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 08:57:59 2019.

Milennials: "Led Zeppelin? My granparents have those actual real records in their room at the old folks home at the college."

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 20 13:49:24 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 20 13:43:49 2019.

They like EDM music too.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 14:08:17 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 20 13:43:29 2019.

I don't remember, but I think MTV at least still played "some" music yet back then.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 20 14:33:51 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 20 08:52:17 2019.

My friend and his girlfriend wanted me to go, but even back then there was so many rules and I just said fuck it and didn't go. I should have went to the 99 one

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Aug 20 15:34:13 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 20 14:33:51 2019.

Took me 4 posts to figure out and remember what you all were talking about.

Now I remember it.


Don't think it was such a big idea. There was lollapoolza and raves too that sounded better.

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 20 16:48:47 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 22:12:24 2019.

Nah...Go back a few years. The Kinks were the first real "heavy metal" band. "You Really Got Me" released in 1965 had that real in your face guitar lick by one of the Davies' Bros (I forget which one) that still holds up well today.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 20 17:31:18 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Aug 20 13:20:10 2019.

How many folks have ever been to the actual site of the festival?

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 20 17:51:02 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 20 16:48:47 2019.

And that's because the amplifier was ripped, thus causing that unique sound

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Aug 20 20:55:42 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 19 23:05:45 2019.

there were other tunes that kept me out of vietnam war

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 20 21:10:12 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Aug 20 20:55:42 2019.

CJ & the Fish was the one that got airplay on the "progressive rock" stations, at least those in NY that I knew about.
and yes, there were others

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 20 22:52:57 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 20 16:48:47 2019.

Nah; more like what became punk rock.

Chuck Berry's "Maybellene" had distorted guitar in the 50s.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Aug 20 23:30:51 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 15:52:43 2019.

I'm curious to know why you say it was an overrated event.

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 21 05:06:39 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 20 22:52:57 2019.

Chuck Berry's "Maybellene" had distorted guitar in the 50s.
I enjoyed Chuck Berry's music and lyrics. The 50's were good time for the stuff I liked.

Brown-eyed Handsome man


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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Wed Aug 21 07:47:57 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Aug 20 16:48:47 2019.

and not to forget Duane Eddy...
not distorted per se, but his heavy reverb gave it a whole new sound

heavy guitars but bluesy; good'n'loud when turned up:
The Ventures - Guitar Boogie Shuffle
also good'n'loud at eleven and yeah, certainly metal in its own way:
The Dynatones - Steel Guitar Rag

Kinks mentioned :) - but must include early Who also
Stones - 19th Nervous Breakdown - just turn it up

fast forward to 1968: Blue Cheer - Summertime Blues, Out of Focus, Dr. Please....
I saw them May 68 early show Fillmore East - records didn't come close to their live metal - could've crumbled sections of the Great Wall of China. Sound went right through you at the threshold of pain

and the MC5's first album.... side one

Sabbath, and that first generation were not a reaction to Woodstock - they more like musicians who'd listened to Cream - and worked up a formula: play it louder, slower, and a bit more distorted, and we'll sell albums just like they did. Lester Bangs was the first to call them on it.

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Wed Aug 21 07:49:19 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 21 05:06:39 2019.

Chuck Berry...yes!!!

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 21 08:35:25 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 20 22:52:57 2019.

Early punk rock?? Have to go with the Doors over the Kinks on that.

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Re: I'm sick of woodstock

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Aug 21 14:32:48 2019, in response to Re: I'm sick of woodstock, posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 20 21:10:12 2019.

i refused to go to that dammed war

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 21 17:44:59 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 21 08:35:25 2019.

The Who were proto-punk. But, the Trashmen preceed them!

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Express Rider on Wed Aug 21 17:57:05 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 21 08:35:25 2019.

and nobody's mentioned the Standells - Dirty Water/Rari or Count 5 Psychotic Reaction yet....

I heard at least one show on college radio back when I lived in Boston, don't remember whether it was the MIT or Emerson stations, but they played well over an hour of obscure and not so obscure garage, "early" punk rock - predated all that stuff that came out a dozen or so years later....


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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 21 18:20:59 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 21 08:35:25 2019.

Maybe if what you call punk rock are bands like The Stranglers or that type.

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 21 20:45:47 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Aug 21 17:44:59 2019.

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Aug 21 20:51:22 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 21 20:45:47 2019.

YEAH !
I REMEMBER THAT

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 21 21:15:14 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 21 20:45:47 2019.

A record so bad it was good!

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Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Aug 21 21:17:43 2019, in response to Re: I'm Sick of Woodstock, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 21 18:20:59 2019.

Who? (not the Who)! Never heard of them.

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