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Climate change

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 22 07:02:32 2019

Warming up

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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:07:49 2019, in response to Climate change, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 22 07:02:32 2019.

It's called the weather.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:08:28 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:07:49 2019.

Sigh. No, it's not.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:13:32 2019, in response to Climate change, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 22 07:02:32 2019.

OMG, the sky is falling.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:14:48 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:08:28 2019.

Let me guess. You think mankind can actually change the climate.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:15:10 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:13:32 2019.

Yes, it is (figuratively).

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Re: Climate change

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 07:15:19 2019, in response to Climate change, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 22 07:02:32 2019.

40% of the country is so gullible that that won't believe you.


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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:15:38 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:14:48 2019.

Absolutely!

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Re: Climate change

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 07:16:37 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:07:49 2019.

One hundred-year event is called weather.

Three hundred-year events in one decade are called climate.



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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:16:59 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 07:15:19 2019.

It's not a matter of gullibility. Most people are gullible enough. The thing is that half the population is susceptible to the right-wing propaganda machine, which has seen fit to deny reality on this topic.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:18:13 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:15:38 2019.

Conspiracy theorist.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:19:26 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 07:16:37 2019.

I'm not answering you until you answer the question I posed to you last week.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:20:22 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:13:32 2019.

And the Moon landing was a hoax.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:20:58 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:13:32 2019.

2 facts need to be recognized:

Fact 1) Climate change is cyclical and largely out of control of man.

Fact 2) Politics of climate change is actually about socialism and assuming greater control over the economy.


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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:21:30 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:20:58 2019.

Excellent post.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 22 07:28:13 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:16:59 2019.

I guess scientists are "full of shit" then, let's keep burning fossil fuels and not worry about our future or our kids future ....

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Re: Climate change

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 07:30:32 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:20:58 2019.

You just keep believing that right-wing propaganda.

Those of us who understand science and reality believe otherwise.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:47:07 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:18:13 2019.

LOL!

What conspiracy do I believe in?

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:49:28 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:20:58 2019.

These are not facts at all.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:50:36 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 07:30:32 2019.

I wonder to what extent right wing climate change denialism is influenced by religion, in that religious people believe that only their god controls the climate and humans are incapable of doing anything.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:50:46 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:47:07 2019.

The conspiracy that mankind can control the climate. It's just as absurd as the Moon landing hoax, or 9 11 being an inside job.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 07:56:43 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:50:36 2019.

Very little.

Evangelical Christians used to believe in global warming as much as anyone else until their Prophets told them not to.



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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 08:00:17 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:50:46 2019.

It's not a conspiracy, nor absurd at all. It's scientific fact. Nearly all scientists agree with this. In fact, it's an actual conspiracy theory to believe that so many scientists are in cahoots to deny reality.

Humans are able to render whole species extinct, eradicate diseases, blow up entire cities and irradiate the surface of the planet. The fact that our actions don't have any effect on the climate would be surprising and unbelievable.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 08:03:00 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 07:56:43 2019.

Thanks.

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Evidence Of Climate change

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 08:13:46 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 07:20:58 2019.

NASA

The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal.
- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change


The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.(1)

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.(2) Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA. There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.(3)

The evidence for rapid climate change is compelling:

Global Temperature Rise

The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere.(4) Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with the five warmest years on record taking place since 2010. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year — from January through September, with the exception of June — were the warmest on record for those respective months. (5)

Warming Oceans

The oceans have absorbed much of this increased heat, with the top 700 meters (about 2,300 feet) of ocean showing warming of more than 0.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1969.(6)

Shrinking Ice Sheets

The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost an average of 286 billion tons of ice per year between 1993 and 2016, while Antarctica lost about 127 billion tons of ice per year during the same time period. The rate of Antarctica ice mass loss has tripled in the last decade.(7)



Glacial Retreat

Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.(8)


Decreased Snow Cover

Satellite observations reveal that the amount of spring snow cover in the Northern Hemisphere has decreased over the past five decades and that the snow is melting earlier.(9)

Sea Level Rise

Global sea level rose about 8 inches in the last century. The rate in the last two decades, however, is nearly double that of the last century and is accelerating slightly every year.(10)


Declining Arctic Sea Ice

Both the extent and thickness of Arctic sea ice has declined rapidly over the last several decades.(11)

Extreme Events
Glaciers are retreating almost everywhere around the world — including in the Alps, Himalayas, Andes, Rockies, Alaska and Africa.
The number of record high temperature events in the United States has been increasing, while the number of record low temperature events has been decreasing, since 1950. The U.S. has also witnessed increasing numbers of intense rainfall events.

Ocean Acidification

Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the acidity of surface ocean waters has increased by about 30 percent.(13,14) This increase is the result of humans emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and hence more being absorbed into the oceans. The amount of carbon dioxide absorbed by the upper layer of the oceans is increasing by about 2 billion tons per year.(15,16)

References
IPCC Fifth Assessment Report, Summary for Policymakers

B.D. Santer et.al., “A search for human influences on the thermal structure of the atmosphere,” Nature vol 382, 4 July 1996, 39-46

Gabriele C. Hegerl, “Detecting Greenhouse-Gas-Induced Climate Change with an Optimal Fingerprint Method,” Journal of Climate, v. 9, October 1996, 2281-2306

V. Ramaswamy et.al., “Anthropogenic and Natural Influences in the Evolution of Lower Stratospheric Cooling,” Science 311 (24 February 2006), 1138-1141

B.D. Santer et.al., “Contributions of Anthropogenic and Natural Forcing to Recent Tropopause Height Changes,” Science vol. 301 (25 July 2003), 479-483.

In the 1860s, physicist John Tyndall recognized the Earth's natural greenhouse effect and suggested that slight changes in the atmospheric composition could bring about climatic variations. In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first predicted that changes in the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect.

National Research Council (NRC), 2006. Surface Temperature Reconstructions For the Last 2,000 Years. National Academy Press, Washington, D.C.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page3.php

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/indicators.php

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20170118/

Levitus, S.; Antonov, J.; Boyer, T.; Baranova, O.; Garcia, H.; Locarnini, R.; Mishonov, A.; Reagan, J.; Seidov, D.; Yarosh, E.; Zweng, M. (2017). NCEI ocean heat content, temperature anomalies, salinity anomalies, thermosteric sea level anomalies, halosteric sea level anomalies, and total steric sea level anomalies from 1955 to present calculated from in situ oceanographic subsurface profile data (NCEI Accession 0164586). Version 4.4. NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information. Dataset. doi:10.7289/V53F4MVP

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7159

National Snow and Ice Data Center

World Glacier Monitoring Service

National Snow and Ice Data Center

Robinson, D. A., D. K. Hall, and T. L. Mote. 2014. MEaSUREs Northern Hemisphere Terrestrial Snow Cover Extent Daily 25km EASE-Grid 2.0, Version 1. [Indicate subset used]. Boulder, Colorado USA. NASA National Snow and Ice Data Center Distributed Active Archive Center. doi: https://doi.org/10.5067/MEASURES/CRYOSPHERE/nsidc-0530.001. [Accessed 9/21/18].

http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/snow_extent.html

Rutgers University Global Snow Lab, Data History Accessed September 21, 2018.

R. S. Nerem, B. D. Beckley, J. T. Fasullo, B. D. Hamlington, D. Masters and G. T. Mitchum. Climate-change–driven accelerated sea-level rise detected in the altimeter era. PNAS, 2018 DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1717312115
https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/sea_ice.html
USGCRP, 2017: Climate Science Special Report: Fourth National Climate Assessment, Volume I [Wuebbles, D.J., D.W. Fahey, K.A. Hibbard, D.J. Dokken, B.C. Stewart, and T.K. Maycock (eds.)]. U.S. Global Change Research Program, Washington, DC, USA, 470 pp, doi: 10.7930/J0J964J6

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Ocean+Acidification%3F

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification

C. L. Sabine et.al., “The Oceanic Sink for Anthropogenic CO2,” Science vol. 305 (16 July 2004), 367-371

Copenhagen Diagnosis, p. 36.

Scientific Consensus
Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.



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Re: Evidence Of Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 08:19:10 2019, in response to Evidence Of Climate change, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 08:13:46 2019.

NASA? Deep state!

Before anyone responds by citing natural cycles: The existence of a natural explanation for a given phenomenon does not preclude an artificial explanation for another instance of the same phenomenon.

For example, a forest fire can be started by arson, or by failing to properly extinguish a campfire, or by a cigarette, but that doesn't mean that there were no forest fires before humans started making fires.

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Re: Evidence Of Climate Crisis

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Jul 22 08:21:05 2019, in response to Evidence Of Climate change, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 08:13:46 2019.

Subjected corrected. You're welcome.

#fakemilitaryaviator
#preparedoors
#standbyforallcall

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Re: Climate change

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jul 22 08:22:06 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 07:15:38 2019.

I agree. All that shit we put into the atmosphere is going to take a toll.

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Re: Evidence Of Climate change

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 08:23:27 2019, in response to Re: Evidence Of Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 08:19:10 2019.

The agebcy that put astronauts on the moon is now the "deep state"...LOL...but you're right, the deniers will say exactly that.

However...

One small but very telling tidbit from the NASA page:

Greenhouse gases had never, not in at least 800,000 yewrs, ever risen above 300 ppm...until 1950, one hundred years into the Industrial Revolution.

InB4 "fake news"...

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Re: Evidence Of Climate Crisis

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 08:24:46 2019, in response to Re: Evidence Of Climate Crisis, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Jul 22 08:21:05 2019.

#crosscheck

#headsdown

#staydown

#bracebracebrace

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Re: Climate change

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jul 22 08:27:30 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:50:46 2019.

The last two are conspiracies, the first is not. While climate change is naturally cyclical, mankind is adversely impacting the natural cycle.

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Re: Evidence Of Climate Crisis

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Jul 22 08:34:38 2019, in response to Re: Evidence Of Climate Crisis, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 08:24:46 2019.

There you go!

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Re: Climate change

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 09:44:26 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:19:26 2019.

What question?


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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 09:47:51 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 09:44:26 2019.

Unfortunately I am having trouble retrieving it, but you implied in another thread that Israelis were terrorists to so called palestinians. I asked you several times to clarify, you ignored my questions regarding it.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 09:51:00 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 09:47:51 2019.

You're imagining that. I have never called Israelis terrorists.




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Re: Climate change

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 09:52:57 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 22 09:51:00 2019.

Ok, since I am unable to find that post, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 09:54:19 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 09:52:57 2019.

I know my name isn't AlM, but I remember him responding to your post.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by WayneJay on Mon Jul 22 10:08:59 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jul 22 07:07:49 2019.

So... You'll believe this president over scientists who can actually explain their research and such? Do you also believe Space Force will reach Mars soon?

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:15:41 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 07:30:32 2019.

You understand science? You still don't understand that there are just 2 sexes.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 11:16:44 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:15:41 2019.

You don't understand gender identity.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:18:59 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 11:16:44 2019.

That's psychobabble, not science.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 11:23:04 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:18:59 2019.

Or so you say.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:49:30 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 11:23:04 2019.

Fact remains, if Bruce Jenner commits a crime and leaves DNA evidence, penis or not, the police will be looking for a male.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jul 22 11:51:45 2019, in response to Climate change, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 22 07:02:32 2019.

GONNA GET WORSE

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 11:52:35 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:49:30 2019.

So what? If an AIS-sufferrer commits a crime and leaves DNA evidence, police would also be mistakenly looking for a male.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jul 22 11:59:09 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jul 22 11:16:44 2019.

A MENTAL affliction, akin to someone thinking they're Napoleon.

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Re: Climate change

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jul 22 12:02:37 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 11:49:30 2019.

It's Kaitlyn, you trannyphobic bigot!!!!

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 12:04:31 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jul 22 12:02:37 2019.

I apologize profusely

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Re: Climate change

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 12:04:41 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jul 22 11:59:09 2019.

And you have made this conclusion based on your years of study and education on this topic?

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Re: Climate change

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Jul 22 12:06:11 2019, in response to Re: Climate change, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 22 11:52:35 2019.

What is AIS?

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