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Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019

“Stop illegal immigrants, they hurt americans”

Then they say

“Equal rights for the LBGQT community? Nope”

“Womens right to choose? nope”

“Americans get free health care insurance? Thats socialism”

“Americans dont deserve $15 at mcdonalds”

Conservatives...hurting Americans more than Illegals could



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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 14:06:59 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

Thanks. I know you mean me.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:08:34 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 14:06:59 2019.

No, youre not important enough to enter anyones mind

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 15:11:17 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

Is this a tweet or facebook post that you copy and pasted?

It makes no sense.

I support abortion and better wages and have no issue with immigration.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 10 15:17:51 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

“Stop illegal immigrants, they hurt americans” I agree.



“Equal rights for the LBGQT community" I agree.


“Womens right to choose" Too vague.

“Americans get free health care insurance" If that means single payer I agree.


“Americans dont deserve $15 at mcdonalds” I disagree.



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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 15:28:53 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 10 15:17:51 2019.

Good point. "Choose" what?

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 10 15:35:34 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 15:28:53 2019.

I don't know, ask ClearAspect.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 10 15:57:32 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

“Stop illegal immigrants, they hurt Americans”

Of course they do. They'd hurt less if they were made legal, but that would be unfair as well.

Then they say

“Equal rights for the LBGQT community? Nope”

That ship has sailed.

“Womens right to choose? nope”

If you believe that a fetus is alive, then why would it make sense to allow it to be killed?

“Americans get free health care insurance? Thats socialism”

“Americans dont deserve $15 at McDonald's”

It doesn't bother me, but it doesn't make sense economically.

Conservatives...hurting Americans more than Illegals could

Capitalizing illegals doesn't make it any less dehumanizing.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 10 15:58:17 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

“Stop illegal immigrants, they hurt Americans”

Of course they do. They'd hurt less if they were made legal, but that would be unfair as well.

Then they say

“Equal rights for the LBGQT community? Nope”

That ship has sailed.

“Womens right to choose? nope”

If you believe that a fetus is alive, then why would it make sense to allow it to be killed?

“Americans get free health care insurance? Thats socialism”

I support, but it'll cost us.

“Americans dont deserve $15 at McDonald's”

It doesn't bother me, but it doesn't make sense economically.

Conservatives...hurting Americans more than Illegals could

Capitalizing illegals doesn't make it any less dehumanizing.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 10 16:04:26 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by Easy on Wed Jul 10 15:58:17 2019.

There's a difference between dehumanization and true accusation; the former happens to the innocent. Illegal aliens are lawbreakers and therefore not innocent.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 10 16:06:37 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 15:28:53 2019.

IAWTP. No euphemism!

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 10 16:08:59 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by Easy on Wed Jul 10 15:57:32 2019.

Good post. This is why Democrats lose.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 10 16:09:28 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by Easy on Wed Jul 10 15:58:17 2019.

Good post. This is why Democrats lose.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 10 16:14:26 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

LOL streetcarnazi. Guess you want Kare Steinle's blood on your hands again. If an illegal killed one of your family members, you'd swear off commies telling you what to think, hopefully forever.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jul 10 17:09:32 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:08:34 2019.

+37,000,000

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jul 10 17:16:58 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:08:34 2019.

Post of the day!!

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Jul 10 17:24:31 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

Why worry about raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour when there should be more opportunities for career paths besides flipping burgers??

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 10 17:45:54 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Jul 10 17:24:31 2019.

Don't bother explaining to that one; too far gone. Only when extra value meal prices shoot north of $20 will some reality penetrate, never mind franchises closing with things the way they are now.

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Re: #37 Subchatter Logic

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 10 21:22:06 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:08:34 2019.

Amazing how you turned that around to where everyone agrees with you, lol.

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Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 10 21:37:15 2019, in response to Re: Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:08:34 2019.

who did you have in mind when threading about "Conservative Subchatter"(s)?



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Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019, in response to Conservative Subchatter Logic, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 10 14:01:27 2019.

"Stop taking babies and children away from parents of illegal immigrants".

Then they say:

"Women have a choice for partial-birth abortions" - - killing babies


"We need tighter gun control laws, including a ban on assault weapons and bump stocks"

Then they say:

"Criminals deserve a second chance" - - sure, get another illegal gun and shoot/kill innocent children at an inner city playground

"Don't arrest farebeaters" - - Oh they tell you that many use the free system to commit more crimes?

Liberals...hurting America more than Trump could.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jul 11 04:20:47 2019, in response to Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019.

Well said

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 04:38:11 2019, in response to Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019.

Great post

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 06:46:38 2019, in response to Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019.

LOL!

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 06:49:17 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 06:46:38 2019.

What's so funny?

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 06:53:26 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 06:46:38 2019.

Sometimes, truth is funny!

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 06:54:35 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 06:53:26 2019.

Yes, what he quoted was truth. But his response was BS.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 07:38:56 2019, in response to Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019.

Sigh....

Wakefield... sit down, shut up and listen.

Partial birth abortion? Do you know what that procedure even is? I have a feeling you have a shit clue what that is.

Banning assault rifles has nothing to do with offering criminals a second chance at society. Taking the most extreme case and passing it off as the norm is just pathetic. Other countries such as Norway offer criminals rehabilitation with much success rather than straight incarceration with no way to reintroduce criminals into society.

An uneducated person such as yourself cant fathom that point and need to use an extreme point proves such. Pathetic.

As for your last point, NYC shuts you up, we ended policies such as that but crime has continued to go down. While people such as you, naziolog and mr centrist chris swear that DeBlasio will ensure that NYC would end up on fire.

Hyperbole and fear is what conservatives do, you checked off those boxes and failed.

Good game

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:11:33 2019, in response to Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019.

Wakefield-241st Street. I don't know you. You don't post that often, but iawtlp, and you are a mensch.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:13:04 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:11:33 2019.

Not surprised an unintelligent racist like you would

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 08:15:39 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 07:38:56 2019.

If you believe that life begins at conception, then any abortion is the taking of life and murder.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 08:15:39 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 07:38:56 2019.

If you believe that life begins at conception, then any abortion is the taking of life and murder.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:19:41 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 08:15:39 2019.

Belief is nothing. We can believe a lot but when belief infringes on rights we have to pick correctly especially when the vast majority holding that belief do not offer viable alternatives.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:20:26 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 08:15:39 2019.

I do.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:21:05 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:13:04 2019.

You are not a mensch.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:21:32 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:21:05 2019.

From you thats a complement.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 08:40:02 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 11 08:15:39 2019.

Some people believe that a fly may be a reincarnated human, and therefore it is not permissible to swat a fly. That is a valid religious belief too. People who have that belief should never swat a fly.

How do such religious beliefs affect the discussion in this thread?



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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 11 08:50:25 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:21:32 2019.

You're quite welcome.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:15:21 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:19:41 2019.

It's a "belief" that like doesn't begin at that moment as well.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:16:17 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 11 08:40:02 2019.

It's not just religious. It's not cut or dry.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 09:17:19 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:15:21 2019.

Its a belief that those who push it dont offer alternatives and their religious belief that push it dont give a damn about that life after birth

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 09:19:28 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:16:17 2019.

Who is pushing it? Religious right and their extremist ideals of pushing their religion and enshrining it in law rather than respecting the seperation of church and state

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 11 09:22:00 2019, in response to Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Thu Jul 11 03:00:04 2019.

Hmmm...I agree.
However...why dont you tell the Whole damn story about libs AND CONSERVATIVE logic.
Do you honestly feel holding children within a prison,depriving them of basic necessities,is CLEARLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO?Also,You might want to think about Where "The Conservative movement" came about.
While Im NOT a bleeding heart liberal by any sense of the word...I most certainly NOT the brand of conservatism often seen here.
I live for truth.
Dont see that here.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:35:58 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 09:17:19 2019.

That's wonderful, but it's not cut or dry where you think like begins. Religious or not. You don't have to believe in a religion to say where life begins. It's not like saying an orange is orange

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:36:53 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 09:19:28 2019.

That's wonderful, but it still 8snt "fact" either way. Religious or not.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:37:39 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 11 09:22:00 2019.

Lol. The ole, "well the other side"..

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 11 09:41:09 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 11 09:22:00 2019.

You are all worked up.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 10:49:12 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 07:38:56 2019.

1. They just use that as a synonym for late term abortion, because it sounds worse. An important rhetorical tool of the fight is to make things sound worse, e.g. “death tax.”

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 11 10:49:46 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 08:19:41 2019.

Bad argument.

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Re: Liberal Subchatter logic

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jul 11 11:00:54 2019, in response to Re: Liberal Subchatter logic, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jul 11 09:35:58 2019.

Thats ok so long as the person who believes that is willing to pony up and put their money where their mouth is.

Like im ok with no abortion so long as those who believe in life have to do mandated adoptions and pay a tax to assist if the person is born with a disability.

Simple.

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