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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 11 15:39:48 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 15:36:03 2019.

Would you be brave enough to be a gay senior citizen who risks aggravating existing age-related health issues with a beating from someone who doesn't want you in his "mainstream" senior housing?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 15:42:23 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 15:38:25 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 17:07:06 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 11 15:39:48 2019.

Yes.
And in Bay Shore or on Long Island elsewhere. Absolutely.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 17:09:19 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 11 06:14:04 2019.

Apparently he wants to backtrack all of that resegragate and bring it back to the separate.
And he never responded to my comment about, what's next, the gay car on the train?, And that's where they are taking this.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 17:09:52 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jun 11 06:36:23 2019.

They want to bring it back apparently.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 01:31:17 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 17:07:06 2019.

I don't think you would be so bold after you are beaten so severely you no longer have mobility.

This has actually happened to elderly gay men who dared to stand up for themselves.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 01:31:54 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jun 11 17:09:19 2019.

You're wrong.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 04:02:35 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 01:31:54 2019.

Except it's exactly where they are headed with stuff like this.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by The silence on Wed Jun 12 04:10:37 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 01:31:17 2019.

Basically the question is “how often does that actually happen and is it enough to really justify the need to build new housing that promotes itself as inclusive?”


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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 04:33:27 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by The silence on Wed Jun 12 04:10:37 2019.

Exactly.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 06:10:46 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by The silence on Wed Jun 12 04:10:37 2019.

Thank you.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 06:12:50 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 04:33:27 2019.

And again, he still didn't address the, what's next....the gay car on the train? The "safe" gay area at the back of the bus? The gay section on the side of the restaurant?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 06:18:11 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 06:12:50 2019.

Don't expect him to.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 06:50:17 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 06:18:11 2019.

He won't, because he cant

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 07:21:08 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 06:50:17 2019.

I mean he CAN, but that would mean him admitting that he is wrong in this case.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:08:37 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 06:12:50 2019.

Does Jewish senior housing lead to "Jewish cars on the train"?. The "safe" Jewish area on the bus?

InB4:

"anti-Semitic post!"

"Notice how he had to use "Jewish" examples!"

"Inappropriate!"

"I can't believe he's equivocating gays with Jews!"

Nevertheless, the comparison is valid. Why is LGBTQ senior housing "segregation, but religious and/or other cultural senior housing not?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:11:41 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by The silence on Wed Jun 12 04:10:37 2019.

1. It happens every day, to LGBTQ people from every age group and background.

2. The necessity is clear because there have been many incidents where LGBTQ seniors were unwelcome in "mainstream" senior housing. This is neither new nor a minor thing.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 09:22:33 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:08:37 2019.

Is the Bay Shore project run by a not for profit organization?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 09:24:06 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:11:41 2019.

Hope you like the segregated gay car on the train, the gay area of the restaurant, or the safe gay area in the back of the bus,cas segregation is what you are promoting.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 09:39:14 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:08:37 2019.

I think it's segregation as well.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 09:43:04 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 09:24:06 2019.

Is the gay car on the train going to be in the rear?

Is the gay section of the restaurant going to be by the back door?

Is the gay area of a plane going to be by the cockpit?

Is that area on Long Island where they want to build the apartments going to be called Gay Shore?

I got jokes for days!LOLOLOL!!!

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:44:54 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 09:22:33 2019.

Why?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 12 09:48:04 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:08:37 2019.

PWN3D!

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 12 09:50:06 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 09:43:04 2019.

Is the gay area of a plane going to be by the cockpit?

The gay area on the plane is called the galley.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:52:31 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 09:24:06 2019.

Why isn't this also true of other specialized senior housing, like Jewish or Asian-oriented facilities?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 09:52:58 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 12 09:50:06 2019.

Stop ruining my jokes! And yes, I get it.



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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 12 09:56:55 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 09:52:58 2019.

How is my joke ruining yours?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 11:48:34 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:44:54 2019.

Sounds like a religious group using donations or non profit funds. If not, then it too should be opened to all. Although, then again, if given the choice, would christians get involved with some of the religious events they have, or would they want to?

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 11:52:09 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 09:52:31 2019.

But it is. Exclusion is exclusion.
But that's not the point. The point was how come you can't have a heterosexual oriented development just like a gay one? As for the Jewish one, I believe there are also catholic senior developments, etc too, so if it's based on religion, even though there's Jewish developments, there also are Christian ones, iinm, so the parallel is not the same.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 11:53:05 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 09:39:14 2019.

It is actually. Although other religions also have developments.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 11:56:25 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 11:52:09 2019.

Why is the "parallel not the same"? Each facility is specialized to see to the needs of a specific group. Given the recent attacks against synagogues, it's not unreasonable for Jewish seniors to desire a safe, supportive living space, too.

The only real difference is that you can choose or change your religion. You can't choose your sexual orientation or gender identity; you can only choose to hide them. That actually militates even more for LGBTQ senior housing, not less.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 12:00:51 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 11:56:25 2019.

Again, as far as I know Jewish isn't the only religion where they have religious oriented development. Unlike in the case with gay vs heterosexual. I don't think you can have a heterosexual development.
In any even, yes, either are segregation of people. The only difference being other religions can also have a development of their own.

So no, it doesn't change the fact that both are segregation. However at least in the case of religion, other religions also have a choice to have such a development.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 12:04:56 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 12:00:51 2019.

Every senior housing development, unless otherwise stated, IS a "heterosexual development". Just like everything else in our society.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 12:18:55 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 12 09:56:55 2019.

Because there is only room for one comedian here!

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 12:26:25 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 12 12:04:56 2019.

Huh?. No.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 12:29:00 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jun 12 12:26:25 2019.

And again, your post doesn't address what I said. There are many religious developments based on religion....official developments. So you happened to post Jewish, but as far as I know, any church or religion can officially do such
(And non of them get out of the "it's segregation".

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 12 13:16:52 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 11 12:48:22 2019.

From what I read of this, anyone (qualified etc) can move in. They just have to understand it’s a mixed community, accept and be a peaceful good neighbor.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jun 12 13:21:31 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 12 13:16:52 2019.

As opposed to my neighborhood where there is no such written understanding but a lesbian couple lives 2 houses from me and in the 20+ years that they've been our neighbors, they have never been assaulted nor has their house been vandalized.

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Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jun 12 13:50:47 2019, in response to Re: Bay Shore First Gay/Lesbian Affordable Senior Housing Complex, posted by bingbong on Wed Jun 12 13:16:52 2019.

You wanna get an apartment with me ? ;)

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