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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 9 19:06:18 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Joanne Chesimard…, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 9 18:58:28 2019.

title corrected

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 9 19:06:29 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 9 18:58:09 2019.

zzzz back

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 9 19:06:43 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 9 18:58:25 2019.

????????????????

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 9 21:43:00 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 9 17:54:55 2019.

So under NJ law, she was convicted of murder without having killed anyone, or intended to kill anyone, or tried to kill anyone.



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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 9 22:53:15 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 9 19:06:29 2019.

Figures

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 10 02:11:42 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 9 17:55:42 2019.

By merely being present when the murder occurred?

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 02:44:48 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Sun Jun 9 21:43:00 2019.

Yes. It you act in concert ( be a Lookout, Drive the getaway car, help someone Escape, run interference, and more ), you will be charged with the same crime as the rest. It's up to a good defense attorney to get you off.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 02:45:57 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 10 02:11:42 2019.

Stop playing dumb, you know damn well!

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jun 10 03:44:01 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 10 02:11:42 2019.

When you act in some role as part of the conspiracy, you are responsible for what your co-conspirators have done even if it was never something you agreed to nor did you bring about. Using New York terminology, an ADA probably would have tried to plead her out to go after the bigger fish, but if she turned him down then she ran the risk of being convicted for the same thing as everyone else even if she was sitting in the car and never fired a shot.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 05:35:29 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Jun 9 17:00:07 2019.

Stop posting this bullshit. And the cop killer's name is Joanne Chesimard, not that stupid name Assata Shakur.


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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 05:43:42 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 05:35:29 2019.

And the cop killer's name is Joanne Chesimard

Um, everyone here who has looked at the issue from a legal perspective (including conservatives like BillBklyn and mtk) is saying that, while she was convicted of murder, that happened even though she did not kill the police officer.






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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 05:54:53 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 05:43:42 2019.

And every one of the people who looked at the issue from a legal perspective (except JayZee) has called her a cop killer.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 06:20:56 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 05:54:53 2019.

Really? She is not. She was convicted of the crime called murder but she did not kill him.





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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 06:34:35 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 06:20:56 2019.

So what? That's a meaningless distinction.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 06:39:54 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 06:34:35 2019.

No it is not.

If you didn't kill someone, you didn't kill them.

Murder and killing are very different items. Everyone agrees that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin; but he was not found to have murdered him.



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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 06:51:20 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 06:39:54 2019.

One is a subset of the other.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 06:54:20 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 05:35:29 2019.

I agree with you 100%!

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 06:55:26 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 05:43:42 2019.

I would love to hear your reasoning how you think I'm a conservative? If you knew me in real life, you'd be laughing at the thought of even typing that!

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 07:04:20 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 06:55:26 2019.

LOL!

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 07:09:59 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 06:51:20 2019.

Evidently not under NJ law.



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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:05:42 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 07:09:59 2019.

You're wrong.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 08:09:56 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:05:42 2019.

It makes no sense as an English sentence to say "Assata Shakur killed the police officer."

New Jersey can define crimes as it wishes to, but it doesn't have authority to change the definition of words in the dictionary.





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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:12:36 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by AlM on Mon Jun 10 08:09:56 2019.

It makes no sense as an English sentence to say "Assata Shakur killed the police officer."

New Jersey can define crimes as it wishes to, but it doesn't have authority to change the definition of words in the dictionary.


IDGAF. We're talking about crimes, not lay dictionary definitions.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:13:37 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:12:36 2019.

That having been said: Joanne Chesimard a/k/a Assata Shakur killed the police officer.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 08:48:39 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 9 22:53:15 2019.

what ?

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 08:49:51 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 05:35:29 2019.

her name is ASSATTA SHAKUR and we will keep on saying it

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 09:09:07 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 08:49:51 2019.

Who's we?

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:19:27 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 09:09:07 2019.

Her criminal supporters.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:20:31 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:19:27 2019.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:21:34 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 08:13:37 2019.

ASSATTA SHAKUR did not kill anybody
she is now free

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:22:56 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:21:34 2019.

She killed a state trooper and she is a fugitive.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:27:29 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 06:54:20 2019.

IDWTP

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:27:41 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Jun 10 05:35:29 2019.

IDWTP

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:27:59 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 09:22:56 2019.

SHE DID NOT

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 09:27:59 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:27:29 2019.

figures

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 09:28:16 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:27:41 2019.

figures

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 09:29:13 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 10 07:04:20 2019.

See?! Even Spider Pig is laughing at you!

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 09:35:45 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 08:49:51 2019.

It's Joanne.

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:38:26 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 09:35:45 2019.

WRONG
its ASSATA SHAKUR !!!!!
will remain FREE

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 09:41:38 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 09:38:26 2019.

We already know her name is Joanne

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 14:34:03 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 10 09:41:38 2019.

too fucking bad ASSATA SHAKUR will reman free
GET MAD

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 14:34:32 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 09:27:59 2019.

HAAAAAAAA

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 14:41:20 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 14:34:03 2019.

Lol

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 14:41:45 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 14:34:32 2019.

WHAT ?

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 15:00:56 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 14:41:45 2019.

haaaaaaaa

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 15:01:09 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 14:41:20 2019.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 15:13:53 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 15:01:09 2019.

figures

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 15:24:36 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 15:00:56 2019.

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jun 10 15:27:26 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 15:24:36 2019.

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S.

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 10 16:29:06 2019, in response to Re: Cuba will keep Assata Shakur, despite Trump's request to return her to U.S., posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jun 10 15:13:53 2019.

haaaaaaaaaaaaa

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