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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by AlM on Fri May 3 09:28:08 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 09:04:59 2019.

All of what you say is correct. But the point of this thread is that there was a Biblical Israel. That's not fiction, even if certain or many characters in the Bible are fictional.



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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 09:34:37 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by AlM on Fri May 3 09:28:08 2019.

I wouldn’t call that “Biblical Israel” because that makes it sound fantastical.

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 09:36:49 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by AlM on Fri May 3 08:09:16 2019.

Thank you for posting some actual historical fact about the existence of ancient Israel. But you see, some people look at ancient fiction to justify things, and not actual historical fact.

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by AlM on Fri May 3 10:07:33 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 09:36:49 2019.

Right. I agree that the Bible itself does not provide any useful evidence of the existence of an ancient Israel. But archaeology and corroborating writings prove that the Bible is not entirely a work of fiction, but has some basis in historical fact.

But yes, the Bible need not have more basis in historical fact than a Michener novel.




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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 3 10:43:30 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 3 08:56:50 2019.

No, two seconds.

I recommend you read The Naked Communist. It does warn in its last chapter, "From a Marxist viewpoint, an atheistic mind is already three-fourths conquered", and your stance on Pence seems not to indicate otherwise.

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 3 11:19:59 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by AlM on Fri May 3 10:07:33 2019.

Let's not forget, Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn also take place in Missouri and the Mississippi River is prevalent in both books.

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 3 11:25:56 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 3 10:43:30 2019.

When do you recall me saying anything about Pence? So then I should worship my Nordic or Celtic religions then, correct? It's raining on and off, I wonder if Thor is going to move so we can hear him?

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 3 11:40:10 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 09:34:37 2019.

That's the first time I've heard the "Biblical" adjective described as fantastical.

It can be violent, in contexts of revenge.
It can describe horror, in context of natural disasters.
It can be amorous, when "knowing" someone in that manner.

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 11:43:40 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 3 11:40:10 2019.

Really? You’ve never heard the Bible described as fantastical?

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by 3-9 on Fri May 3 11:56:17 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by mtk52983 on Fri May 3 08:13:19 2019.

I'm talking Abbas and the PA, not Hamas. I could not have cared less about what Israel does to Hamas.

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by 3-9 on Fri May 3 12:03:31 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 3 07:51:45 2019.

Never mind Palestinian Authority TV recently showing photographs of dead Jews at concentration camps and claiming them to be Arabs killed at Deir Yassin.

When did this happen?

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Re: More New York Times antisemitism

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 3 15:09:12 2019, in response to Re: More New York Times antisemitism, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 3 09:34:37 2019.

Only to the godless.

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