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Posted by Dave on Wed Sep 19 22:17:22 2018 Mark Judge, key witness to alleged Brett Kavanaugh assault: 'I have no memory of this alleged incident' |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Sep 19 22:35:26 2018, in response to Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 19 22:17:22 2018. I wouldn’t say smoking gun because of his admitted hard partying past and the fact that he isn’t willing to go under oath. There are bigger reasons to question the credibility, namely the initial anonymity and the fact that this isn’t the first time Brett Kavanaugh has been nominated for a position so why not come forward then. From what I have seen, the reality is somewhere in the middle. In a drunken night might Kavanaugh have done something he would never have done sober and without full mental faculties, yes. It is not disqualifying in and of itself and may not be illegal depending on Maryland law on mens rea. That being said, when taken in combination with his demonstrated judicial philosophy it does raise questions about whether he should be approved for a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 19 23:04:57 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Sep 19 22:35:26 2018. To you, a Jewish guy from LI it's hard partying. To irishcatholic people its normal, and those who don't drink alcohol like they do are weird.Dave is wrong. I agree with you its not a smoking gun. They said She said. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 02:35:53 2018, in response to Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 19 22:17:22 2018. That’s Kavanaugh’s buddy and he won’t testify. It has also been said that Dr. Ford is willing to speak with the FBI but neither Kavanaugh nor his buddy are willing to speak with the FBI. Lying to the FBI is a crime. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 20 02:42:36 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 02:35:53 2018. Ford should have gone to law enforcement instead of contacting her congresswoman.Honestly I think she was groped, screamed, Kavanaugh covered her mouth and then it ended. This is what I think happened. You should listen to Hugh Hewitt to hear what he's saying about all this. 
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 03:18:00 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 02:35:53 2018. Does anybody on this board besides myself realize that what is being said does not merit an FBI investigation?! Jesus Christ, people! |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 03:30:03 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 03:18:00 2018. How the fuck would you know? Oh that’s right, SS Bill |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 07:06:53 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 03:30:03 2018. That is your stupid response to me? Oh hold on, someone stole my bike when I was 13, let's get the FBI to investigate it! It was a party in a high school in the early 80s, that's all! The FBI does not investigate things like this that are 36 years old! Right now neither with the local police department jurisdiction because the case is so old that it can never be proven. And I don't know where SS correlates with any of this? |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 07:16:44 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 02:35:53 2018. Kavanaugh spoke with the FBI during the initial interviews before he was nominated, Fred. Not about this issue, presumably. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 07:19:33 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 07:06:53 2018. The case is so old it can never be provenI think all the people who have been convicted of cold-case crimes would seriously disagree with you. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 20 07:32:49 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 07:19:33 2018. LOL! |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 08:06:04 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 07:06:53 2018. Well if you were being nominated for a Supreme Court position and you were accused of sexual assault if not rape then yes we would want the FBI to investigate you. If it was good enough for Clarence Thomas it’s good enough for Kavanaugh |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 08:07:30 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 07:16:44 2018. I know that but things have changed since then |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Sep 20 08:26:13 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 08:06:04 2018. Those who said it would take long, when thr FBI checked for Thomas it took 3 days to complete their investigation.So had Grasserly said yes on Tuesday or even yesterday the investigation would have wrapped up by Friday and they could have had the hearing on Tuesday instead. Got to love "god fearing" hypocrites like conservatives. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 20 09:45:59 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 07:16:44 2018. Of course they didn't. Diane Feinstein sat on the letter exposing this alleged incident since mid July. It's obvious that the scummy democraps are not interested in the truth. Their only interest is to detail the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh and avenge the loss by hillary clinton. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 20 09:49:18 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 07:16:44 2018. Of course they didn't. Diane Feinstein sat on the letter exposing this alleged incident since mid July. It's obvious that the scummy democraps are not interested in the truth. Their only interest is to derail the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh and avenge the loss by hillary clinton. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:53:05 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 07:16:44 2018. Well, that's because a 1982 teenage party at a Catholic School does not rise to the merit of having the FBI ask questions about it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:55:49 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 07:19:33 2018. You were talking about actual crimes. This is something out of Fast Times at Ridgemont High period whole different ballgame. And you will never admit that this is desperation and overreaching. I when he gets nominated anyway, because as you know all of these hearings don't have to occur, the president could just have a vote and be done with it, I will be sitting back here laughing at all of you guys! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:56:44 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 08:06:04 2018. But what you fail to post is there was a difference between the two cases. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:16:40 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Sep 20 09:45:59 2018. There’s nothing wrong with that, but I don’t know what they expect the endgame to be. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:17:24 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:55:49 2018. Stop saying “when he gets nominated.” He got nominated weeks ago. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:17:24 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:55:49 2018. Stop saying “when he gets nominated.” He got nominated weeks ago. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Sep 20 10:26:09 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:16:40 2018. There certainly is. They saved it till now for their hail Mary pass, if all else failed. Despicable |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 10:27:56 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:17:24 2018. I meant confirmed |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Sep 20 10:29:18 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Sep 20 10:26:09 2018. So is what happened to Merrick Garland |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:36:49 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Sep 20 10:26:09 2018. That’s a matter of opinion. I acknowledge the disreputability of the Democrats’ actions, but nevertheless condone them. It’s about time Democrats fight dirty. They’ve been bringing a knife to a gun fight for years. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:37:21 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 10:27:56 2018. No shit. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Sep 20 10:39:58 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:36:49 2018. Exactly if conservatives are fine with how Trump plays then lets play ball. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 10:47:16 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:37:21 2018. As they say in Australia, don't have a sook because homeboy is going to be your next SCOTUS judge! |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 10:55:26 2018, in response to Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 19 22:17:22 2018. Yeah, sure. He doesn't remember a thing. Must have been drunker than Kavanaugh. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:00:44 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 10:55:26 2018. Do you really think somebody who is 53-54 in 2018 is going to really remember a drunk high school party for 1982? I'm sure they went to plenty of those parties from the time they were 15 to the time they graduated college. No one is going to remember everything. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:02:25 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:00:44 2018. Yes. Especially a sexual assault victim. You never forget that. Ever. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:06:04 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:02:25 2018. Well then thank God she wasn't sexually assaulted |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Sep 20 11:08:21 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 20 10:36:49 2018. Lol...it's the only way the Democrats know how to play |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 11:28:42 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:06:04 2018. You were there? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:32:39 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 11:28:42 2018. Until it is proven that she was, it's innocent until proven guilty! |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 11:39:06 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:53:05 2018. No, it's because the incident isn't a federal crime. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:45:31 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 11:39:06 2018. Which is the same exact point I'm making. But the local police department would not be investigating this in 2018 either. A case like this is totally unprovable, nevermind the statute of limitations |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:47:40 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:06:04 2018. Yes, she was. Attempted rape is sexual assault.You must have been a bad cop. After all, they let you retire early. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:50:10 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 09:53:05 2018. It certainly does. This was not in the background check they did on Kavanaugh, which means they neglected to do the job thoroughly. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 11:53:03 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:32:39 2018. It's alleged. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 11:54:08 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:50:10 2018. Or sat on it. The GOP concealed a lot of info during this process. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 11:58:34 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:32:39 2018. Your presumptions of innocence are highly selective. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 11:58:58 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Sep 20 11:58:34 2018. Oh you noticed. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 12:11:00 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 20 11:45:31 2018. Until you've examined the witnesses, you don't know what is and isn't provable. And cases are built on circumstantial evidence. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 12:13:17 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:50:10 2018. LOL! How would the FBI have known to do a background check on whether as a teenager Kavanaugh allegedly sexually assaulted someone? If no compliant was filed with the police, and no one formally complained to school authorities, why would the FBI have gone there in the first place? |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 12:15:21 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 11:47:40 2018. She says he did it. He says he didn't. Some witnesses say he did and others say he didn't. So why are you jumping to the conclusion Kavanaugh attempted rape?You're big on drawing conclusions without any supporting facts or evidence. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 12:19:29 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 12:15:21 2018. She is credible.I've yet to hear from an6 witness that say otherwise. Thus far, I've heard corroboration and some "I don't recall", which BTW isn't a no, didn't happen. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 20 12:20:21 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 20 11:54:08 2018. Yes. Anyway you look at it, the background check was at minimum incomplete. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 20 12:24:28 2018, in response to Re: Smoking gun AGAINST Dr. Ford?, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 20 12:15:21 2018. Because to her, the story only works if Ford is correct. |
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