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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 15:11:01 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 15:07:39 2018.

he is admitting that Obama was such a bad President that he damaged the Democrats enough to give Trump a win.



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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:13:52 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 15:11:01 2018.

Trump in Helsinki made Obama look like FDR. People will forget Neville Chamberlain too

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 15:14:30 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 15:11:01 2018.

That was a collective effort. Don't give Obama too much credit now. Not to mention the aid of the RINOs in that Democratic collapse.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 15:15:23 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:13:52 2018.

Wow, that is a nasty thing to say about Obama. :(



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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:16:10 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 15:15:23 2018.

Looking like FDR?

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 15:22:16 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:16:10 2018.

Trump:Obama::Obama:FDR

That implies that FDR is "better" than Obama to the same degree that Obama is "better" than Trump.

And that is an incredible insult to Obama.



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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:31:30 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 15:22:16 2018.

Ha ok. I intended to elevate Obama compared to Trump.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 16:03:09 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 18 15:03:57 2018.

Race has everything to do with it. Trump's base was gagging through eight years of Obama in the White House.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the I left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:24:04 2018, in response to Ocasio-Cortez seeks to "mobilize" the radical left, says to "occupy" airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 11:14:57 2018.

I see that she is another one that lives in Fantasyland. Doesn't she know that if you break the law, there are consequences with it? You know I would never vote for her in a million years.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the I left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 16:37:07 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the I left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:24:04 2018.

Ah good. Well, at least no more Bernie protest votes.

That's the thing about the left: they make up the law as they go along, just like the tyrants of old ruling by decree.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:38:36 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 14:36:45 2018.

No, Trump got elected because Americans knew that Clinton was not there for them or have their best interest in mind

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:39:22 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 14:49:40 2018.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:40:16 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 14:48:28 2018.

I would give it to her!

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:40:34 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 18 14:39:30 2018.

Agreed!

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:42:09 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 14:56:16 2018.

Do you REALLY think that this is about white dominance? The way I see it is it was a shift from democratic power to Republican power. It happens with every president and its cyclical

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:42:44 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 18 15:03:57 2018.

That's what I was thinking. When you have to bring race up, you've lost the argument.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:43:57 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 16:03:09 2018.

But, as an objective outsider, have to tell you that race doesn't have anything to do with it at all. I know you would like to believe otherwise because you have been conditioned to think that way since you were a toddler, but it really doesn't.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:45:53 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 15:22:16 2018.

FDR was a better president than Obama! There's nothing wrong or malicious with saying that. Obama was a better president than Carter! Again, nothing wrong or malicious would say that either.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 16:47:49 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:42:44 2018.

Only among those who deny racism exists and normalize it.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 16:47:56 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:40:16 2018.

Give what to her? An appointment for cosmetic dentistry?



Can't tell if she's Carmilla or Squirrel Girl. But she looks like she's out for blood.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 16:49:38 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:45:53 2018.

Obama was a better president than Carter

That I cannot agree with. Way too much economic, social and governmental detriment on Obama's watch. Of course, Carter never got a second term.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 16:49:51 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 16:47:56 2018.

Why do righties always attack women's looks? If you don't like her stand on issues fine, but why do you attack their looks?

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 16:50:47 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 18 16:45:53 2018.

You didn't get it.

What is incredibly unkind to Obama is to say that FDR was a better president than Obama to the same degree as Obama was a better president than Trump.


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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:52:36 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 18 16:03:09 2018.

And it was not because he was 1/2 black and 1/2 white. It was because he was a pussified, useless socialist.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 16:56:27 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 18 16:52:36 2018.

He was as much a socialist as Dwight Eisenhower.

Some people on this board who act libertarian actually got fat on socialist paychecks, so it can't be all bad.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 17:08:27 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 15:31:30 2018.

do you think Trump has a small penis? Is that how you explain his personality?

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 17:31:49 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 17:08:27 2018.

You and penises again. Must be your MGTOW thingy wanting to hijack the thread.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 17:32:11 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 17:08:27 2018.

Not too interested in dick right now

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 17:35:35 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 17:32:11 2018.

penis size might explain a lot of things that happen in the world.



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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 17:42:41 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 17:35:35 2018.

Could be. Humvee sales for instance

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 18:01:54 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 17:31:49 2018.

Ocasio is a #mgtow #redpillmovie #mra topic. It's all related.

Latina chick should be making babies and watching Telemundo. Instead she is organizing #resist

sorry Olog-hai is triggered.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 18 18:16:47 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 18 18:01:54 2018.

No; you're sexually confused. Stop hijacking the thread and go find your boyfriend.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jul 18 18:28:31 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 16:49:51 2018.

Seems to me that no one on the left complained when selkirk and bingy were attacking Ann Coulter's looks. Complaints seem a bit disingenuous now.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 19:14:52 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jul 18 18:28:31 2018.

Fair point. That was wrong also

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 21:28:21 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 18 15:03:57 2018.

You do understand that most of us are intelligent enough to actually take a long hard look at history...and let it speak.

You do understand that we also know what "dismissive theater" is...and how you just put and exclamation point on it.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 18 21:29:00 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jul 18 15:03:57 2018.

You do understand that most of us are intelligent enough to actually take a long hard look at history...and let it speak.

You do understand that we also know what "dismissive theater" is...and how you just put an exclamation point on it.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 19 00:25:56 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 18 16:47:49 2018.

That makes no sense.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 19 00:27:22 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by AlM on Wed Jul 18 16:50:47 2018.

You cannot make a judgement until after Trump's terms are finished.

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 19 00:35:11 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jul 18 18:28:31 2018.

Good point

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Joe Lieberman endorses Crowley, says not to vote for Ocasio-Cortez

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 19 00:56:04 2018, in response to Crowley Loses, posted by northshore on Tue Jun 26 23:22:51 2018.

The Hill

Joe Lieberman urges voters to back Crowley over Ocasio-Cortez in general

By Jesus Rodriguez
07/18/18 11:45 AM EDT
Former Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is urging voters in the general election to vote for Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) instead of Democratic nominee Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who upset him in the party primary.

"Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's surprise primary victory over Rep. Joe Crowley seems likely to hurt Congress, America and the Democratic Party. It doesn't have to," Lieberman wrote in an op-ed published Tuesday in The Wall Street Journal.

"Because the policies Ms. Ocasio-Cortez advocates are so far from the mainstream, her election in November would make it harder for Congress to stop fighting and start fixing problems."

Lieberman noted that Crowley's name will still be on the ballot as the nominee of the Working Families Party.

"Thanks to a small percentage of primary votes, all of the people of New York's 14th Congressional District stand to lose a very effective representative in Washington," Lieberman wrote. "Fortunately, Joe Crowley and the voters in his district can prevent this damage."

Ocasio-Cortez defeated Crowley by 15 percentage points in the June 28 Democratic primary.

Her stunning upset rattled the Democratic establishment in Washington, D.C.

The two rivals also feuded on Thursday, with Ocasio-Cortez accusing Crowley of mounting a third-party challenge. She said he had failed to make time for a concession call and was refusing take his name off the ballot for the Working Families Party.

Crowley responded that he had made his support for her "clear" and that "Democrats need to come together."

He also claimed that his name could only be removed from the ballot if he moves out of New York, is convicted of a crime, accepts a nomination for another office in a different district, or dies.

In his op-ed, Lieberman recounted how he faced a similar, "difficult" choice when he lost the Democratic nomination for the Senate in 2006 to Ned Lamont. But Lieberman eventually won reelection in the general as an independent candidate.

"I ran as an independent because I wanted all the voters to decide whether I deserved to continue to serve them in the Senate," Lieberman wrote. "It was a risk, but I concluded it was worth it to know that I had taken my fight for the kind of government I believed in as far as I possibly could."

Lieberman, viewed by many as an independent voice in politics, continued to caucus with Democrats, but endorsed Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) presidential run at the 2008 Republican National Convention.

The former 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee also attacked Ocasio-Cortez's policies for being "more socialist than Democratic."

"She has received the most attention for calling to 'Abolish ICE,' Immigration and Customs Enforcement," he wrote. "This makes no sense unless you no longer want any rules on immigration or customs to be enforced."

Ocasio-Cortez's campaign declined to comment to The Hill.


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Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc.

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 19 02:18:12 2018, in response to Re: Ocasio-Cortez seeks to ''mobilize'' the radical left, says to ''occupy'' airports, ICE buildings, etc., posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 19 00:35:11 2018.

Was reading more of that Firing Line interview, and the lady the media hyped to no end is saying crazy things like "Capitalism did not always exist in the world, and it will not always exist in the world".

That district of hers looks gerrymandered to me, too.

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Re: Joe Lieberman endorses Crowley, says not to vote for Ocasio-Cortez

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 19 06:31:24 2018, in response to Joe Lieberman endorses Crowley, says not to vote for Ocasio-Cortez, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 19 00:56:04 2018.

Where was Joe before the primary?

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Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 16 06:39:16 2018, in response to Crowley Loses, posted by northshore on Tue Jun 26 23:22:51 2018.

The left-wing media's turning on her. Ain't gonna be pretty. (And no, Michael Graham is not conservative.)

See-BS News

Commentary: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez becomes the Sarah Palin of the Left

By Michael Graham
August 13, 2018, 5:53 AM
If you're one of the many American progressives cheering on the performance of your new political rock star, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, look around: Many of the people cheering with you are Republicans.

Ocasio-Cortez's 14-point victory over 10-term incumbent Democrat Joe Crowley was certainly impressive. Her performance since then? Not so much. The GOP have branded her a gaffe machine, Democrats on Capitol Hill her urging her "to do things differently," and her stumbling media appearances have sparked references to the "P" word: "Palin."

Yes, it's that bad.

There's a lot to like about the bold, outspoken battler from the Bronx who, until just a few months ago was still tending bar. She's enthusiastic, she's attractive, she has a degree in economics from Boston University, and she's unapologetic in her (self-described) socialist views.

Unfortunately, Ocasio-Cortez doesn't appear to have test-driven her campus socialism in the real world. And as a result, her media performances under even the most tepid of questioning have been less than productive.

In the six short weeks since her upset primary win, Ocasio-Cortez has:
  • Claimed "unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs."

  • Referred to Israel's "occupation of Palestine" and struggled to explain what that meant.

  • Claimed the "upper-middle class doesn't exist anymore."

  • Wrongly accused her defeated Democratic opponent of plotting a third-party challenge against her.
She also compared the costs of the GOP tax cuts (less than $2 trillion over the next 10 years) to the costs of her Medicare For All approach, estimated at around $32 trillion over a decade. Then to make matters worse, she added this during a CNN interview:

"Americans have the sticker shock of healthcare as it is, and what we're also not talking about is why aren't we incorporating the cost of all the funeral expenses of those who died because they can't afford access to healthcare? That is part of the cost of our system."

Yes--what about all the savings we'll have under #MedicareForAll once people stop dying?

After one of Ocasio-Cortez's recent unforced errors, establishment D.C. moderate Norm Ornstein tweeted that she is "not ready for prime time."

Ocasio-Cortez's gaffes have become so frequent--and harmful--that a cottage industry has risen up on the Right to trumpet them. She's become a staple of talk radio and clips of her less-than-flattering moments frequent Fox News. Websites like the Washington Free Beacon and the Daily Caller delight in highlighting the latest misstep from the new poster person for American Progressivism.

Republicans would love nothing more than for Democrats to spend the 2018 midterm campaign defending socialist policies. Candidates who promote policies like single-payer health care, or free college tuition or government-guaranteed jobs for all know they're going to face the Margaret Thatcher question eventually: How do you pay for it?

Thatcher's famous observation was that "the trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Many Americans perceive themselves as the "other people" in that scenario and so they want to know how much all this "free" stuff is going to cost.

And this is the Ocasio-Cortez Effect: Americans are suspicious of the idea of socialism (though they are fine with "socialist" policies like welfare and Medicare), and typical voters tend to dismiss its advocates as naïve. The error-filled answers and shaky logic offered by Ocasio-Cortez confirm the assumption that, however compassionate these progressive programs are, they have no idea how to pay for them. The fact that Ocasio-Cortez still doesn't have a coherent answer when asked how she'll pay for all the new spending she wants reflects poorly on her--but is even more damaging to her socialist ideals.

This may be one reason her influence among Democratic voters already appears to be waning. Last month, she and her progressive mentor Bernie Sanders campaigned hard for progressives Cori Bush and Brent Welder in the Kansas Democratic primary. Both lost.

In a Politico article entitled "Down Goes Socialism," Bill Scher notes that it was Hillary Clinton, and not Ocasio-Cortez, whose endorsement carried the most weight in Michigan last week.

"Clinton's late robocall in support of Haley Stevens helped take Stevens from second place in polls to an election night victory in the suburban 11th District, a top Democratic target, while Fayrouz Saad, backed by Ocasio-Cortez, placed fourth."

In fact, Democratic establishment candidates have been on a roll since the Ocasio-Cortez upset. Could it be that her high-profile missteps are convincing candidates to remain more moderate? That the net result of Ocasio-Cortez's candidacy is fewer progressive candidates in November?

It could be the case that Ocasio-Cortez's vision of the Democratic Party as a bastion of European-style socialism is their inevitable future. Or it could be, as her fellow Democrat Sen. Tammy Duckworth of Wisconsin quipped: "Yes, it's the future of the Democratic Party--in the Bronx." But if democratic socialism prevails in the short-term, it will be despite--not because of--the Ocasio-Cortez Effect.


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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 16 06:47:50 2018, in response to Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 16 06:39:16 2018.



Honestly I see nothing wrong with the four bullet points.

#ciudadocasio's main fault is that she does not even have the charisma to run a successful Youtube channel or Instagram account.

She will probably remain a force in local politics. First LatinX Mayor of NYC.


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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 16 07:03:34 2018, in response to Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 16 06:47:50 2018.

Honestly I see nothing wrong with the four bullet points

You must be further left than she is.

She ain't making mayor.

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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 16 07:07:35 2018, in response to Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 16 07:03:34 2018.

her points about Israel, middle-class, working two jobs, and the conspiracy to third-party are all expected.

She can be Mayor of NYC for sure.



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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Aug 16 08:31:43 2018, in response to Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 16 07:07:35 2018.

Sadly in the world of Democrats, she is still a potential winner. Of course her political rhetoric is Cah-Cah. Of course her performance in front of the media has been worse than what the left hoped Sarah Palin would be. Certainly, the flaws in what they call her education show like a gravy stain on a white shirt but the Democrats need the face. They have to have that syrupy smile to replace the Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters scowl. They need that sweet lilting voice to replace the flinty screech of Hillary Clinton. For Democrats will always vote against their own interests when the messenger is eye candy.

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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 16 08:34:35 2018, in response to Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 16 06:39:16 2018.

Turning on her? This is what you Trumpenproletariat don't understand. The media is supposed to be critical and not hagiographic. Fair criticism is not fake news.

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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 16 08:43:43 2018, in response to Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 16 06:39:16 2018.

She's only relevant to the right.

Nate Silver: In races where insurgent Democrats are running against party-backed nominees ... the establishment Democrat is winning 89% of the time.

Conservative baby boomers like to dump on her because she's young.

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Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory)

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 16 08:51:05 2018, in response to Re: Is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the left's Sarah Palin? (editorial meant to be derogatory), posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Aug 16 08:31:43 2018.

LOL, nah, that's pretty removed from reality. Nice slam on women tho, as is your forte.

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