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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 17 08:33:10 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 16 20:35:43 2019.

Two thumbs up!

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 17 08:34:09 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 17 03:46:15 2019.

Damn kids...stay off my lawn!

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 17 08:47:10 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 17 03:46:15 2019.

I just missed being a Boomer, by a couple of years.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 09:21:23 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 22:14:22 2019.

You watch it? I wouldn't know. What did they say?

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 09:22:24 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 21:37:41 2019.

They defend her all the time. Look at the butthurt just here scurrying to say it's fox or something else, and not the moron herself.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 09:22:39 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 09:21:23 2019.

I didn't say I could explain.



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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 09:24:23 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 09:22:24 2019.

???

You and Fox are the ones claiming Democrats are supporting her. SP and I have made dozens of posts complaining about her.





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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 09:58:12 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 09:24:23 2019.

Fox is irrelevant when discussing AOC. White guys over 60 watch Fox and that's about it.

Look at her appearances at SXSW (hosted by CNN) where she was a rock star. She's a freshman in congress with no prior experience yet she is constantly in the news.

I don't watch Fox ( or any news show) but I imagine that conservatives like her because they think she's so far left that her fame helps their side. That she scares moderate conservatives liberals right. But I think that she represents a movement within the left. A significant movement by millennials - Americas largest generation - to impose their values in the Democratic Party.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 10:04:16 2019, in response to AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 16 06:30:16 2019.

You do realize that trumpís is still worse. At 12.3%.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 10:15:15 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 09:58:12 2019.

IAWTP.

However, my point was that Democrats in general don't support AOC. It's Fox, and posters like Chris and Olog, who claim they do. While 25% of Democrats love her, probably 75% just wish she would go away.



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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:17:13 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 20:50:53 2019.

Well I apparently used the wrong company. I always use Enterprise. Were you given extra scrutiny by the border agents because you had a rental?

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 17 10:17:55 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 16 20:30:59 2019.

I do. I have my annual checkup which includes a visit to each of my Drs.

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:18:19 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 17 03:37:29 2019.

Thank you. You are as well.

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:19:07 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by Dave on Sun Mar 17 08:33:10 2019.

Thank you Dave. Have you ever been there?

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AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%óand she blames Fox News

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 10:34:47 2019, in response to AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 16 06:30:16 2019.

She calls them her own TMZ. Shows what she thinks of her job.

NewsWeak

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says Fox News is now ďAOC TMZĒ, blames conservative network for unfavorable poll

By Jessica Kwong
3/16/19 4:12 PM EDT
Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Saturday called Fox News ďAOC TMZĒ and blamed the conservative network for her poor favorability rating in a new poll.

A Gallup poll released Friday showed that more Americans, 41 percent, viewed her unfavorably than favorably (31 percent). Her unfavorably rating climbed up from 26 percent in September, while her favorability rating also increased from 24 percent, meaning her net favorability dropped from -2 percentage points to -10 percentage points.

Ocasio-Cortez responded by tweeting that she has net favorable ratings from women, people ages 18 to 34 and people who are not white.

ďIf you want to know what subconscious bias looks like, itís a headline saying ĎAOC is underwater with every group EXCEPT women, nonwhites, and 18-34 year olds,íĒ she tweeted. ďSo older, conservative white men are considered ďeveryoneĒ and everyone else is discounted as an exception. Cool.Ē

Ocasio-Cortez then placed part of the blame for her poor rating on Fox News, which has criticized her and her Democratic Socialist platform since her campaign days.

ďThe reason people know more is bc Fox News has turned into ĎAOC TMZí (no offense to TMZ), so awareness is growing w/ GOPers,Ē Ocasio-Cortez tweeted. ď@JaneMayerNYer has reported deeply on this propaganda machine + it will be aimed at any Dem they want. Nothing changes that. We canít be scared by that.Ē

Ocasio-Cortezís unfavorabiity rose in large part due to Republicans ó 73 percent in the latest poll, up from 21 points since September.

Fox News has harshly scrutinized her progressive policies, including the Green New Deal aimed at combating both climate change and economic inequality. The conservative network criticized Ocasio-Cortez when she was a congresswoman-elect, for appearing to wear expensive clothing while saying she could not afford an apartment in Washington, D.C.

Hosts on the morning show Fox & Friends mocked Ocasio-Cortez for having ďexpensive tastesĒ for a socialist.

ďI mean, I want a pair of $600 shoes,Ē guest host Katie Pavlich said. ďI think she should redistribute.Ē

Ocasio-Cortez shot back at Fox News for judging what she wore.

ďThe reason journos from @FoxNews to @dcexaminer canít help but obsess about my clothes, rent, or mischaracterize respectful convos as Ďfightsí is bc as Iíve said, women like me arenít supposed to run for office ó or win,Ē Ocasio-Cortez tweeted at the time. ď& thatís exactly why the BX and Queens sent me here.Ē

According to the new poll, 7 of 10 Americans have heard of Ocasio-Cortez and have an opinion of her, up from half of Americans in September.


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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:04:55 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 09:22:39 2019.

Ok. If you say so

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:07:29 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 09:24:23 2019.

You are dillusional. I don't watch fox, or any cable news for that matter. I am capable of forming my own opinion of her by what she says and does. If it happens to occasionally align with what your favorite scapegoat news channel vmay say, because tyouvwatch it all the time and know what they say, that's your issue not mine, and so be it.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:07:50 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 10:15:15 2019.

Lol.

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 17 11:08:28 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:19:07 2019.

Nope. I was scheduled to go in 1967 but the 6-Day War broke out and the trip was canceled.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 17 11:09:29 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 09:58:12 2019.

AOC is doing exactly as she should, if you really think about it. She's taking a page right out of Trump's playbook:

Get into the daily news cycle.

Stay there, even if this means you are the bugaboo of the other party.

Let the other party's news channel do your work for you.

Create a bigger presence in politics than you actually have.

Every one of these elements got Trump elected, and every one of these elements keeps Trump dominant in the media. AOC is doing what more Democrats ought to do, especially the presidential candidates. Even with these purportedly low poll numbers, the young Congresswoman from Queens has already made a name for herself. Not bad for a freshman who was slinging drinks a couple of years ago.

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 11:22:29 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by Dave on Sun Mar 17 11:08:28 2019.

You have a desire to go?

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%óand she blames Fox News

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:35:46 2019, in response to AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%óand she blames Fox News, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 10:34:47 2019.

Totally in keeping with her peers. LOL at all you panicked RW haters.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:48:46 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 17 11:09:29 2019.

Except what she is saying is actually hurting the Democrats, not helping them

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:59:05 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:48:46 2019.

No,t really. It's not driving voters to trump for sure. Heís mired at 35-40%.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 11:59:36 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 09:22:24 2019.

You said the Democrats keep supporting her. Where is there an example of that? Who is defending her?

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:00:05 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:07:29 2019.

Way to avoid answering the question.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 12:01:50 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:07:29 2019.

If that's the case, why do you quote them verbatim?

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:07:36 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 17 11:09:29 2019.

Sheís the left-wing Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin became the Tea Partyís Karl Marx, with Trump becoming its Lenin.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 17 12:18:47 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 10:15:15 2019.

Right wing media hold her up assome kind of a bogeyman to scare people into voting Republican. Similar to Sarah Palin.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:20:57 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:59:05 2019.

LOL!

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:30:58 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:00:05 2019.

Lol? Because what I said sounds like something fox said (according to Al of course)

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:31:25 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 12:01:50 2019.

Lol!! And you would know apparently

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:31:46 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:17:13 2019.

That makes sense. Only Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis, and Endeavour were allowed to leave the country.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:31:55 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 11:59:36 2019.

Many do. She's the poster child of the liberal sect

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:32:49 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:07:36 2019.

And she sounds as dumb. Probably worse, as she had even less experience in reality

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:33:21 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:59:05 2019.

LMAO!!

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:40:01 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:31:55 2019.

Such as?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:40:51 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:32:49 2019.

I disagree, except about the experience thing.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 12:41:16 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 17 11:09:29 2019.

I don't know what she should or shouldn't do, but I like the drama. Politics is a joke and both AOC and Trump highlight that fact. Our government is a reflection of us and that's reality.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 12:44:22 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 12:41:16 2019.

Itís a sad reality.

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:46:42 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:17:13 2019.

Not that I know of. Canadian agents have never given me a hard time or asked extra questions. US agents often have when I come back in, but not because of the rental car.





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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:47:54 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:30:58 2019.

But you aren't actually ever answering S-P's question.



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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 12:50:15 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 11:48:46 2019.

I'm not so sure of that. JayZeeBMT is right, she's playing the media much the same way that Trump did, and she can energize the base way better than how the Democrats have been doing.

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Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 12:50:55 2019, in response to Re: White men are considered everyone (Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up), posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:46:42 2019.

Really? You must have a string of good luck.

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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:58:21 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 12:50:15 2019.

Except she may be as good at exciting the Republican base as the Democratic base.



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Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 17 12:59:51 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:30:58 2019.

Don't knock it. Al has a talent for explaining what others are saying, and in his mind, more clearly than the original speaker

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 17 13:05:31 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 12:50:15 2019.

JayZero was 1/2 right. Trump used the media to fire up his base about jobs, economic growth, taxes, and a swamp. AOC is trying to fire up her base with the myth that the world will end in 12 years if you don't follow the scientific ideas of a former bar maid.

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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 17 13:10:19 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 17 12:31:25 2019.

"And there in lies the rub."
It seems that AlM, JayZero, bingbong and Fredo know more about what was said on Fox than the average conservative. I didn't even find out about what Piro said last week until last night while the aforementioned liberals know everything about it.

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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 13:11:00 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:58:21 2019.

That's true too. But then again, the Republican base would just get energized by whatever Democratic bogeyman gets put out and a bunch of them are running for President, as opposed to AOC.

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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 13:14:12 2019, in response to Re: AOCís unfavorable ratings go up; net favorable ratings now at Ė10%, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 17 13:05:31 2019.

At least her myth is closer to what scientists are saying vs. Trump's.

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