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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 18 22:14:51 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:13:46 2018.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 18 22:16:01 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:14:31 2018.

pork = MAGGOTS AND WORMS

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:18:56 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 18 22:14:51 2018.

Z is not a vowel, Rocky

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:20:03 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 18 22:16:01 2018.

Beef=maggots and worms.
Poultry=maggots and worms.
Fish=maggots and worms.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 22:29:35 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Dave on Mon Jun 18 22:10:39 2018.

Haha, I need a huuuuge pizza about now.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 22:47:34 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:09:32 2018.

Prices for what? I don't see any prices going down. Had to do some serious purchases that were planned for later this year early on, which is putting a crimp on summer plans out of concern for price hikes WRT tariffs. We'll see those come in the fall, just in time for guess what?

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 22:47:59 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:09:10 2018.

Yes, you are.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Easy on Mon Jun 18 22:52:21 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 22:13:34 2018.

That’s one of those charts that tries to make a 10% gain look like a 100% change. It makes the downturn that was so severe that many called it a depression look like a very minor blip. Also those don’t match US Bureau of economic analysis. Maybe look at the overall economy and things like total employment? And maybe we can thank oil prices dropping more than Trump or Obama.

But I shouldn’t have said worse for 6 years. It was really only worse for a couple and slightly improving for the next four. It just didn’t feel like the economy was booming but it does now.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 18 22:56:16 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 21:53:02 2018.

Gas prices are coming back down.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:04:16 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Easy on Mon Jun 18 22:52:21 2018.

That's one of those charts that shows something increasing as time goes on.

Maybe your perception of the economy is limited to your particular local geography.



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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:06:52 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 22:47:34 2018.

Yeah they're down about 5 to 10¢ a gallon in the last 10 days.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jun 18 23:11:15 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:06:52 2018.

Prices always spike at this time each year due to short term shortages as refineries close to switch to summer blend from winter blend.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Easy on Mon Jun 18 23:12:38 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:04:16 2018.

What I mean is on that chart the box for “17,393” is literally four times larger than for “14,718”.

I trust total employment more than unemployment. I’m not asking you to post. I do base the econom off my personal perception more than anything else. It’s subjective but that’s what most use when voting. Not that I’m voting for Trump, but I can see the economy helping him just as it did for previous incumbents. You really have to screw up to not win re-election.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:17:02 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Easy on Mon Jun 18 23:12:38 2018.

The scaling they use is irrelevant as the numbers are going up as time goes on.

I get that it's local perception and I know why people vote the way they do. Your statement about Obama was outlandish and needed to be called on, is all.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 23:24:42 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 22:47:34 2018.

Dave just showed you!

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 23:25:41 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 22:47:59 2018.

Shush. You are right behind him.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 18 23:52:03 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jun 18 23:11:15 2018.

R2 Chinatown-----Are you my old pal Train Dude?

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Jun 19 01:18:20 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:17:02 2018.

I was going to respond but you did a great job doing it. No matter what metric you use the recession turned around and the economy began climbing uphill under Obama. No matter how much revisionist history the other side of simply those who don't like Obama tries to employ.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 01:25:06 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by ftgreeneg on Tue Jun 19 01:18:20 2018.

i think it would have got better if Obama lost in 2012.

Tea Party turbulence in midterms helped the economy for sure. Businesses hate democrats. War economy favors Republicans. THIW.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:41:22 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:18:56 2018.

FUCK YOU

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:41:47 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 22:20:03 2018.

PORK WORSE MEAT ON THE PLANET

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 19 02:45:30 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:41:22 2018.

Come on Rocky!

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 19 02:46:05 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:41:47 2018.

Actually, it's not.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:47:28 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 19 02:45:30 2018.

not your rocky

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:48:11 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:41:47 2018.


PORK WORSE MEAT ON THE PLANET

WORMS MAGGOTS

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 19 02:50:52 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:48:11 2018.

Um.. I already told you ALL meat has worms and maggots if you leave it out.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 19 03:00:33 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 19 02:47:28 2018.


🎵🎶 Gonna fly now!!🎵🎶

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 19 03:10:42 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Easy on Mon Jun 18 21:55:58 2018.

Obama inherited a bad economy but it only got worse while he was President for at least the first 61 years.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by AlM on Tue Jun 19 03:12:05 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Easy on Mon Jun 18 22:52:21 2018.

Yes, it's a disgraceful chart.

But your claim about 6 years is totally off the wall.


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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 05:10:19 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by AlM on Tue Jun 19 03:10:42 2018.

lo@lm!

The economy did get worse during election season when it became obvious Mc Cain was going to be the candidate for the GOP and that Obama would win.



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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 06:29:38 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 22:03:51 2018.

the thread about bingbong is coming soon.

Right now I"m pissed about people turning on Trump. Hugh Hewitt just called child separation "Trump's Katrina".



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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 19 07:02:57 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 18 23:24:42 2018.

I'm sure she thinks I made that up.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 19 07:34:36 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 18 23:06:52 2018.

Yep, the station by me had gone up to $3.059 for Regular is now back under $3.00 (I forget if it is $2.979 or $2.999)

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 07:52:35 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 01:25:06 2018.

Doubtful.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 07:54:15 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jun 18 23:11:15 2018.

LOL! That happens in April!

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Jun 19 07:57:12 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 01:25:06 2018.

If that was so true the economy wouldn't have gotten so ducked up under Bush in the first place. Loosening up regulations (a favorite of the right) is what caused the recession in the first place.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 08:06:27 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Jun 19 07:57:12 2018.

It did not get bad during Bush until 2008 election season.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Jun 19 08:38:16 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 08:06:27 2018.

And who was president? Unless you think democratic Presidential candidates are responsible for the recession.

The recession happened because of deregulation of banks and big businesses. Big business proves time and time again they only give a damn about their bottom line economy, and society in general be damned. But sure let's do the same thing that got us in trouble last time is the answer...

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 19 09:02:42 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 01:25:06 2018.

It would have been because Romney would have run for re-election in 2016 and regardless of who was elected in 2016, it wouldn’t have been Donald Trump.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 19 09:03:24 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 07:52:35 2018.

2012 Obama loss=Trump never becomes president.

Would have been worth it.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 19 09:18:29 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 18 19:26:28 2018.

It will if the likes of DeNiro, Sally Weaver and Samantha Bee keep shooting their mouths off and alienating the populace. They just don't get it. Every time Weaver opens her ugly yap Trump's approval ratings go up. Some Democratic operative needs to break her jaw so she can't talk.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 09:25:56 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jun 19 09:18:29 2018.

Those are fleeting incidents and have nothing to do with consumer prices.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 09:28:23 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 19 08:06:27 2018.

It was declining as of 2005. Really picked up in 2006. In 2008 it hit big corporations, it wasn't until the Bear Stearns bankruptcy that actual notice was made.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 19 09:41:20 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 19 07:34:36 2018.

As usual, Bingbong is making shit up.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 10:04:34 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Dave on Tue Jun 19 09:41:20 2018.

Hasn't budged around here.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by Dave on Tue Jun 19 10:45:54 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 10:04:34 2018.

Small towns are usually the first to raise prices and the last to lower them. Their gas stations are at the mercy of the wholesalers they buy gas from.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 19 10:49:05 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 07:54:15 2018.

LOL. The temporary shortages lag the system by several weeks. When did fuel prices start to rise? Why are you always wrong?

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 19 10:51:26 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jun 18 23:52:03 2018.

Fred, all of the geniuses here have made that determination except for bingbong who has confirmed that I live in my mother's basement.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Jun 19 10:54:46 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Dave on Tue Jun 19 10:45:54 2018.

Gas is down into the $2.70s on most of Long Island except for the East End and Hamptons. I'll be seeing the TRUE PRICES around Albany at the end of this week.

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Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour)

Posted by bingbong on Tue Jun 19 10:55:04 2018, in response to Re: How to Lose the Midterms and Re-elect Trump(#almhour), posted by Dave on Tue Jun 19 10:45:54 2018.

Much of the gas, especially from independent retailers/local/regional chains comes from Canada around here. (It's a breeze of a drive up I87)it's not as chained to whims of greedy distributors as it is down your way.

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