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SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:12:50 2018

SWIMMING WHILE BLACK
This past Monday, June 11, 2018 at 10 am PST while on summer vacation at the Westin Hotel in Pasadena, California my 5 year old daughter and I were approached by a white man while swimming in the hotel pool. The man asked if me and my little girl had showered before getting into the pool because people carry diseases into the pools and he doesn't want the health department to shut the pool down.
Minutes later he approached us again on the opposite end of the pool under the pretense that he worked for the health department. No hotel security or staff was around to stop his verbal harassment. At that point I called BS and I confronted him on what appeared to be blatant racism. I let him know that being black is not a disease and showering would not wash the BLACK off our skin. I think it's awful that ANY man would think it's okay to essentially ask a woman and a little girl if we took off our clothes and scrubbed our naked bodies before getting into a hotel swimming pool.
The incident continued to escalate when my mother and a female hotel manager named Ofelia Dolliver came to the scene. Ms. Dolliver began to explain to the man that it was inappropriate for him to ask me such a question. The man continued to taunt my little girl as she was being escorted away from the mayhem. Finally the hotel's general manger, Carl Sprayberry came to the area. In true fashion, as soon as he arrived he took one look at us and immediately let the white man leave and told us to step to the side with him. After many failed attempts at pleading with Mr. Sprayberry to not let the man go but to instead find out who he was, we left. Only after speaking with the white bystanders who corroborated our story did Mr. Sprayberry instruct the other hotel managers to review the tapes to find the man he had just let go! Upon our departure from the hotel Ms. Dolliver apologized to us and admitted that Mr. Sprayberry handled the situation incorrectly. She said they were “still reviewing the tapes” to find the man and remove him from the hotel. No follow up had been made by anyone from the Westin Hotel since.
It’s sad that I had to explain to my beautiful little five year old brown skinned girl why in 2018 a white man would think it’s OK to ask a little girl and her mom if we showered our presumably dirty black skin before entering a swimming pool.
I have to teach my innocent child that no matter how much we educate ourselves with degrees, no matter what career we choose, no matter if we own a nice home in a gated community, or drive a nice car there are still people in this world who will not like us just because of the color of our skin and even worse there are people in this world in positions of power and authority like Carl Sprayberry that will not stand up for us when they know it’s wrong that we are treated that way.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 17:17:59 2018, in response to SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:12:50 2018.

This story sounds like a crock of shit.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jun 15 17:18:21 2018, in response to SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:12:50 2018.

Ofelia Dolliver
Carl Sprayberry

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:22:13 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 17:17:59 2018.

WRONG TRAIN DUDE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND WAS ON CH 5 TV HERE
and its the top story of our pasadena star news you clueless
piece of crap

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 17:33:56 2018, in response to SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:12:50 2018.

Can you swim?

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:36:51 2018, in response to SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:12:50 2018.


What does race have to do with ANY of this?! Once again, playing victimdue to race when it's not needed.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:43:37 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 17:33:56 2018.

yep

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:44:08 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:36:51 2018.

you are blind with your own racism

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:49:45 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:44:08 2018.

Asking if a kid took a shower before going to the pool is not racist. If the guy had said something about their race, then you would have an argument. It's like the guy driving with the blacked out tinted windows and not signaling to turn and then you pulled him over and then he claims you're pulling him over because he's black. It doesn't work that way.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:50:23 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:49:45 2018.

the idiot lied about who he was and did not ask any of the white patrons

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 17:51:34 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:43:37 2018.

Good.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:54:36 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:50:23 2018.

That still doesn't make it racist! You look for something that's not there and people with your similar mindset.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 18:00:46 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:22:13 2018.

I don't take the word of a draft dodger, salami

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:03:53 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:54:36 2018.

bullshit

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:04:47 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 18:00:46 2018.

BALONEY TO YOU TRAIN DUDE

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 18:06:26 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:04:47 2018.

You are not too bright are you, draft dodging salami?

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:10:19 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:03:53 2018.

IAWTP. If the guy ONLY asked the black kid if he had showered, and didn't ask any white patrons, it seems to me there is a presumption of racism. Now if the kid was filthy from dirt, etc. when he jumped in the pool, that's a different question.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:13:40 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:10:19 2018.

Was the girl the only kid there? Also, that's not enough to presume racism. We don't know all the factors that led up to him asking? Usually when people start squawking racism racism racism, like this woman dead at the article, it usually means that there was none to begin with but this is all they want to grasp at

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:15:44 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 18:06:26 2018.

BALONEY TO YOU

you are a hypocrite and a coward that did not serve
the vietnam war was wrong asshole and we boyotted it


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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:16:29 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:10:19 2018.

why did he not ask all the WHITE children this davey from texasssssss ???
oh no i got you here

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:17:13 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:13:40 2018.

If it wasn't racism, why did the guy run when questioned? If his question was reasonable he could have stayed and explained to the mother why he asked her child the question.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:18:31 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:13:40 2018.

no there were white children there that were not asked did they shower first you racist pig

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:18:32 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:16:29 2018.

Moron (and I'm being polite), did you read my post? Reread it before you open your blowhole and let the few functioning brain cells you have run out of your mouth.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:18:57 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:17:13 2018.

they finally drove him off

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:19:30 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:18:32 2018.

You happen to agree with him and he was so stupid he didn't even realize it!

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:19:30 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:18:32 2018.

STFU davey from texassss
FOX
TRUMPANZEE

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:19:47 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:19:30 2018.

STFU

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:20:46 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:17:13 2018.

Because the guy was lying to her about being from the health department and didn't want to get charged with anything which in his mind he probably thought he could have. It's still not racism.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:20:56 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:19:30 2018.

(Shaking my head).

Sometimes (most of the time) he proves the theory that life is possible without a brain.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:21:30 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:20:46 2018.

bullshit

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:21:55 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:20:56 2018.

describes yourself well

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:22:51 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:18:31 2018.

I seemed to not have read that in the article. Is that your motorcycle run die, just yelling out to other people that they are racist with no facts supporting the argument whatsoever?

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:23:40 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:22:51 2018.

STFU

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:31:15 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:20:46 2018.

Sorry, Bill. In law it doesn't work that way. There's a doctrine called "disparate impact" that refers to a rule or law that is neutral on its face but discriminatorily affects certain individuals. It's usually used in reference to adversely affected employees or tenants, but can occur in other situations as well.



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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:35:50 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:21:30 2018.

Is that your answer to everything?

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:36:38 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:35:50 2018.

asking the same over and over
same nonsense

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:37:48 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:31:15 2018.

Yes, that's a favorite term that the Liberals in New York City like to use to justify everything. Asking if a kid took a shower beforehand is not disparate impact and my opinion is if a bill is neutral prima facie; and only certain individuals are being affected by it, those individuals should really change their behavior so they are not affected by it, correct?

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:40:48 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:37:48 2018.

ask the white kids too equally

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 15 18:43:44 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:37:48 2018.

It depends upon which individuals were affected. For example, if a workplace rule was passed that applied to everyone but only people over age 50 were unable to comply so they were fired, there's a presumption of disparate impact. Now the presumption can be rebutted by presenting facts as to why only people over 50 were affected; that may uphold the rule...or it may not, depending upon the facts and whether a judge buys into the explanation.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jun 15 19:04:14 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 17:17:59 2018.

It's from a FB post. The first hit for the story on Google is The Root.

Certainly plausible, given the high number of leftist whites in CA; they probably think that since Jerry Brown's policies are unopposed thus far that they can show their true racist feelings.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 20:01:42 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 18:15:44 2018.

LOL, Draft dodging salami

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 20:30:14 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 15 20:01:42 2018.

you did not serve so STFU
you knew there was no vietnam war going on when you signed up

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Jun 15 20:38:21 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 17:49:45 2018.

It's not appropriate to approach someone you don't know and ask a question like that. Did he have any particular reason to think the mother and daughter were bringing disease or dirt into the pool? No.

But I first thought Salaam was relating his own experience, so was surprised when the person telling the story turned out to be a woman.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:44:47 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 20:30:14 2018.

How old do you think he is?

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:47:46 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:44:08 2018.

No, you're a racist!

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:48:11 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 17:50:23 2018.

No, you're an idiot!

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:49:27 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jun 15 18:35:50 2018.

Apparently.

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 20:52:51 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:44:47 2018.

why does that matter

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 20:53:05 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:47:46 2018.

no you

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Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Jun 15 20:53:18 2018, in response to Re: SWIMMING WHILE BLACK Pasadena California, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 15 20:48:11 2018.

no you

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